Spence, tell me he media doesn’t lie, again?

[Jim in CT]

I saw this clip live on MSNBC just after the verdict. the woman in the middle is a college professor, who basically said that Rittenhouse deputized himself ( proven false, business owners asked him to help them), who just shot innocent people for no reason ( they were attacking him, this is also not in dispute).

Spence, you me this rant isnt stoking hatred. and the host just nods along like dutiful livestock.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.realc...afety.amp.html

[Jim in CT]

as i watched cnn and msnbc yesterday, i heard 7 or 8 times that police killed jacob blake. Not one person bothered to say that they wounded him, didn’t kill him.

it’s just fiction now. The democrats are absolutely getting pulverized in every conceivable fashion, and in some ways inconceivable ( MSNBC following a jury bus is incredible). The wheels are completely coming off the bus

How can they not see that america doesn't want their current radical
brand of liberalism? if they could
just be smart and rational ( exhibited during passage of the infastructure bill) they could right the ship before november.

But they aren’t doing that. They dug themselves into a hole, which we all do from time to time. Only liberals seem to conclude that the way out, is to dig faster.

Their behavior before and during and after this trial is a gigantic gift to the GOP. They look completely bonkers.
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[Raider Ronnie]

The reaction of the liberal politicians and media is astounding. Blatant lies about what was proven in court. The media will be the death of this country.

Great summary posted about the Rittenhouse trial..

I didn't know that Kyle put out a dumpster fire that was being rolled down to a gas station to blow up, with people all around.
I didn't know that the Police were told to stand down as businesses were destroyed.
I didn't know that Kyles Dad, Grandma and Friends all lived in Kenosha, 20 minutes from where he resided with his Mom part time in Illinois.
I didn't know that Joseph Rosenbaum knocked him down twice and then attempted to kick him with lethal force to the head.
I didn't know that Huber had hit him in the head 2x with a skateboard.
I didn't know Gaige Grosskreutz, a felon in possession of firearm, aimed his gun at Kyle first, as he admitted on the stand.
I also didn't know that in the State of Wisconsin, it is legal for Kyle to have a gun, even at 17 (which was why the gun charge was dismissed).
I didn't know that Kyle did not cross state lines with a gun he wasn't supposed to have. The rightful gun owner did, as he was legally permitted to do.
I also didn't realize that Rosenbaum was a 5 time convicted child rapist and that Huber was a 2 time convicted woman beater. I didn't know that Grosskreutz was a convicted Burglar with an assault on his record also.
IF THE MEDIA DID THEIR JOB... we would ALL have known this!
Stop believing the media lies
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

The reaction of the liberal politicians and media is astounding. Blatant lies about what was proven in court. The media will be the death of this country.

Great summary posted about the Rittenhouse trial..

I didn't know that Kyle put out a dumpster fire that was being rolled down to a gas station to blow up, with people all around.
I didn't know that the Police were told to stand down as businesses were destroyed.
I didn't know that Kyles Dad, Grandma and Friends all lived in Kenosha, 20 minutes from where he resided with his Mom part time in Illinois.
I didn't know that Joseph Rosenbaum knocked him down twice and then attempted to kick him with lethal force to the head.
I didn't know that Huber had hit him in the head 2x with a skateboard.
I didn't know Gaige Grosskreutz, a felon in possession of firearm, aimed his gun at Kyle first, as he admitted on the stand.
I also didn't know that in the State of Wisconsin, it is legal for Kyle to have a gun, even at 17 (which was why the gun charge was dismissed).
I didn't know that Kyle did not cross state lines with a gun he wasn't supposed to have. The rightful gun owner did, as he was legally permitted to do.
I also didn't realize that Rosenbaum was a 5 time convicted child rapist and that Huber was a 2 time convicted woman beater. I didn't know that Grosskreutz was a convicted Burglar with an assault on his record also.
IF THE MEDIA DID THEIR JOB... we would ALL have known this!
Stop believing the media lies
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newspapers in england were still reporting this week that rittenhouse fired at all blacks, because if you watched any tv coverage, that’s what you’d be led to believe.

and they all
made a huge deal that he crossed state lines. since when is that suspicious? so liberal want an open southern border, but we can’t travel between states.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I saw this clip live on MSNBC just after the verdict. the woman in the middle is a college professor, who basically said that Rittenhouse deputized himself ( proven false, business owners asked him to help them), who just shot innocent people for no reason ( they were attacking him, this is also not in dispute).

I think deputizing is a pretty good word for his actions. I didn’t her say he was shooting people for no reason, she said he was running around terrorizing people. I’ve got to think those in harms way we’re pretty terrified.

Also, the owners of the auto lot testified under oath they never asked anyone to defend their business.

[spence]

Where is the lie again?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Where is the lie again?

you’re a waste of
time.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

you’re a waste of
time.
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OK Pete

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

OK Pete

you saw no lies in that video? you watched the video and saw zero lies? all the talk of validating white supremacy, all
the talk that the shooting victims were merely attending a demonstration ( not attacking kyle), all of
it’s true to you?

you’re side is in deep, deep
trouble in november. america looks at that video and cringes. you watch it and get a chubby.

Chris Cuomo said on the air that given the law, an acquittal was the only logical outcome. these women and the host claim it was about condoning racist murder, not about following the laws.
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[wdmso]

Two longtime conservative Fox News commentators have resigned in protest of what they call a pattern of incendiary and fabricated claims by the network's opinion hosts in support of former President Donald Trump.

But but but. Again the inability or unwillingness to see who’s actually lying with intent. For a political party and person aka Trump
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Two longtime conservative Fox News commentators have resigned in protest of what they call a pattern of incendiary and fabricated claims by the network's opinion hosts in support of former President Donald Trump.

But but but. Again the inability or unwillingness to see who’s actually lying with intent. For a political party and person aka Trump
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I'm sure, as the biggest FOX viewer here, you are deeply disappointed

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Two longtime conservative Fox News commentators have resigned in protest of what they call a pattern of incendiary and fabricated claims by the network's opinion hosts in support of former President Donald Trump.

But but but. Again the inability or unwillingness to see who’s actually lying with intent. For a political party and person aka Trump
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tucker carlson used to work at cnn. they go where the money is.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Two longtime conservative Fox News commentators have resigned in protest of what they call a pattern of incendiary and fabricated claims by the network's opinion hosts in support of former President Donald Trump.

But but but. Again the inability or unwillingness to see who’s actually lying with intent. For a political party and person aka Trump
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i see stacey abrams on cnn and msnbc a lot. as well as campaigning for democrats

isn’t she also saying, with absolutely zero evidence,, that her election was stolen? because of racism?

but, but, but…

go ahead and address that wayne.

have fun with that.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Two longtime conservative Fox News commentators have resigned in protest of what they call a pattern of incendiary and fabricated claims by the network's opinion hosts in support of former President Donald Trump.

But but but. Again the inability or unwillingness to see who’s actually lying with intent. For a political party and person aka Trump
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i see who’s lying and call
them out on both sides. how any serious person can watch sean hannity for five seconds is beyond me.

i call lying out in both sides. you can’t call it out on your side. none of you can.

look at the lies in this one story. rittenhouse is a white supremacist, took the gun illegally across state lines, had no ties to Kenosha, blah blah blah.

c
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

tucker carlson used to work at cnn. they go where the money is.
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There’s a reason Fox News is not allowed in other countries

Stephen Hayes and Jonah Goldberg pointed to a breaking point earlier this month: network star Tucker Carlson's three-part series on the Jan. 6 siege of the U.S. Capitol that relied on fabrications and conspiracy theories to exonerate the Trump supporters who participated in the attack.

"It's basically saying that the Biden regime is coming after half the country and this is the War on Terror 2.0," Goldberg tells NPR. "It traffics in all manner of innuendo and conspiracy theories that I think legitimately could lead to violence. That for me, and for Steve, was the last straw."
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

"It traffics in all manner of innuendo and conspiracy theories"

Sounds like you.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Sounds like you.

Mueller, IC, and Senate intel committee (led by a Republican) reports tell the story:
* Russia attacked the US election to help Trump.
* Trump aided and abetted that attack by denying its existence and providing cover to Putin.

You cannot handle the truth.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

There’s a reason Fox News is not allowed in other countries

Stephen Hayes and Jonah Goldberg pointed to a breaking point earlier this month: network star Tucker Carlson's three-part series on the Jan. 6 siege of the U.S. Capitol that relied on fabrications and conspiracy theories to exonerate the Trump supporters who participated in the attack.

"It's basically saying that the Biden regime is coming after half the country and this is the War on Terror 2.0," Goldberg tells NPR. "It traffics in all manner of innuendo and conspiracy theories that I think legitimately could lead to violence. That for me, and for Steve, was the last straw."
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"There’s a reason Fox News is not allowed in other countries "

Yes, there is. It's the same exact reason why liberals riot when a conservative is invited to speak on a college campus. Liberals don't like being challenged. Liberals don't like opposing ideas. Because they know their ideas don't hold up well to an honest comparison with conservative ideas.

I like Goldberg and Hayes. I'm sorry to see them go, I found them both extremely logical and decent. I agree with them that Tuckers special on January 6 was weird. What CNN and MSNBC have said about January 6th is equally outrageous to me.

I don't watch Fox alot. and so much for the hosts (though I'll take them over anyone on CNN or MSNBC).. I like the guests. I always loved Charles Krauthammer, and now I love Victor Davis Hansen. You won't find anything close to those two men, anywhere on MSNBC or CNN or anywhere else. No one comes close.

January 6th was a few dozen jerks who threw a temper tantrum. Maybe a few of them hoped that somehow they were going to change the election results, but that's a few kooks. There was no widespread plot, no more than there's widespread plot among white cops to slaughter black people, yet every TV station other than Foxnews claims there is, and that stupid claim has led to violence and murder.

I posted a video of an exchange on MSNBC the day the Rittenhouse verdict was reached. It was as dishonest, unhinged, and deranged as anything I'll ever hear on Foxnews.

There's partisan nonsense on the air at Foxnews. Just like there is at every other lefty station. But you occasionally get something honest or thought-provoking at Fox that I don't see anywhere else. And I look.

The night of the verdict, Chris Cuomo shocked me by saying the verdict was the only possible outcome under the law. It was refreshing. If he could do that more often, I'd watch him more often. But it was more likely a desperate attempt to convince Rittenhouse not to sue the pants off that place, which he will surely do anyway.

I can watch Foxnews, and turn it off when rabid partisans are simply howling at the moon. On the other networks, that's all there is. Jujst like with you guys here.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

January 6th was a few dozen jerks who threw a temper tantrum.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Stephen Hayes and Jonah Goldberg

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you can have them if we get Tulsi Gabbard

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

How many people were inside the capital? A million?

Did the Chewbacca guy (40 months for goofy trespassing seems harsh to me) have a well-thought out plan for the coup?

They took a page right out of you sides well-worn playbook, staged a much more peaceful riot than your side did that summer, demanded that they get their way, and the system told them to f-ck off, exactly as the system is supposed to tell them.

There are way too many conservatives for my liking, who act like there's hard evidence the election was stolen. There's also too many liberals fo rmy liking (almost all of them) who say that everything, including the Rittenhouse event, is a matter of white supremacy. Each side spewing lies for political gain. There are 2 differences. (1) Foxnews doesn't claim every night all night, that the election was stolen, but you almost everything on MSNBC and CNN is presented through the prism of race. (2) the only person killed as a direct result of the Trump riot, was an unarmed, tiny, female rioter, shot without warning while obviously posing no immediate threat to anyone, killed by a cop with a documented history of being stupidly reckless with his gun.

Your side is more choked up about the death a 4- or 5-time child rapist who announced that he was going to kill Rittenhouse for absolutely no reason, then tried to take his rifle.

Have fun with that. I have to go to starch my robe for tonights klan meeting.

.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

There are way too many conservatives for my liking, who act like there's hard evidence the election was stolen.

.

probably because it's so hard to accept that a lump like biden got a bazillion votes

it's understandable....

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by scottw

you can have them if we get Tulsi Gabbard

I think you already have, between her and Iwanna you should be all set
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

probably because it's so hard to accept that a lump like biden got a bazillion votes

it's understandable....

Our guy made fun of John McCain for being captured in a war, claimed Ted Cruzs father was involved in the JFK assassination, and made of fun of the appearance of almost every republican running against him. It's not hard to see how a huge number of people would vote for Stalin if he were running against Trump (the lefties here would so so with glee, in fact).

However, when every election is going your way until the nation is asleep, then you wake up and found out it went the other way, eventually you have to ask some questions.

The obvious answer is to nominate someone who will advocate for the same popular policies Trump did, but do so while acting like a rational, composed adult. That doesn't mean letting the media sh*t al over you with a smile on your face, the way Bush, McCain, and Romney did. You can fight back, but do it like an adult. Just show America how insane they all are, it's not hard. Desantis is doing it all the time. I'm not saying it has to be him. Anyone who can be Trump without the embarassing, spoiled brat 8 year-old.

They have absolutely no bench on the left, NONE. I always assumed Harris was the shoe-in for 2024, I don't think they can run her, I think even they know she's a clown (who knew that when you nominate an unaccomplished, completely unprincipled empty suit who slept her way to the top, that it could have a downside?). All the GOP would have to do, is show the debate clip when hottie Tulsi Gabbard disemboweled Harris on national TV, gutting her campaign like a fish.
Gabbard ended Harris' campaign with 20 seconds of irrefutable truth.

I think the lefty kingmakers want Buttigieg. Which is also good for a huge national laugh. What if we get invaded and he has to go out on paternity leave again?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Our guy

I don't really like trump, I never voted for him, I do find him amusing in the same way I find pete and spence amusing....

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

They have absolutely no bench on the left, NONE.

I heard BETO is gonna save the party....

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

They have absolutely no bench on the left, NONE. I always assumed Harris was the shoe-in for 2024, I don't think they can run her, I think even they know she's a clown (who knew that when you nominate an unaccomplished, completely unprincipled empty suit who slept her way to the top, that it could have a downside?). All the GOP would have to do, is show the debate clip when hottie Tulsi Gabbard disemboweled Harris on national TV, gutting her campaign like a fish.
Gabbard ended Harris' campaign with 20 seconds of irrefutable truth.

I think the lefty kingmakers want Buttigieg. Which is also good for a huge national laugh. What if we get invaded and he has to go out on paternity leave again?

I really hope you're going to confessional this week.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

I really hope you're going to confessional this week.

pothole pete would be a great president...as long as he doesn't have breastfeeding duties

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by scottw

I don't really like trump, I never voted for him, I do find him amusing in the same way I find pete and spence amusing....

So, you’re admittedly a troll
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

So, you’re admittedly a troll
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would I need to cut and paste more to not be a troll?