Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

     

Left Nav S-B Home Register FAQ Members List S-B on Facebook Arcade WEAX Tides Buoys Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Right Nav

Left Container Right Container
 

Go Back   Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating » Main Forum » StriperTalk!

StriperTalk! All things Striper

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-19-2019, 12:03 PM   #1
puppet
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 2,055
Bluefish

I love catching bluefish....well accept when I was fishing soft plastics.

Running joke....if you want to see if there is bluefish around put on a
soft plastic. I hear they will swim a mile to just cut it in half.

That said....I find asmfc to be suspect in their bluefish assessment and
therefore apply the same opinion on anything they say about any fish.

15 bag limits and no assessment of over-fishing.

http://www.asmfc.org/species/bluefish

What a joke. And that graph appears to be more or less stable since 1990.
For me they have been in steep decline since 2008. In 2008, you could not
get away from them in the surf. Perhaps catching hundred in a season. Now...they
are almost as rare as weakfish. You need to seek out geographic haunts to
find them. A couple years ago I did not catch a single one. Last year it was
two. I fish NY to MA....a good chunk of the northeast.

I have always felt the asmfc numbers are manipulated, but with bluefish they
seem wildly incorrect. My findings....my numbers of bluefish caught annually
would suggest that they should be on an endangered list.

I know bluefish is not held in high respect and we often just ring the bell
about striped bass....but once again we have environmental management
at its best. 15 bag limit on unicorns.

Science....humbug.

The bluefish and striped bass have a partnership in the eco system. I often
have reflected on how blues eat the tails and bass eat the heads. We can
probably chalk that up to the list of why we dont have as many bass
around...their partners in crime are also absent.

Last edited by puppet; 06-19-2019 at 12:08 PM..
puppet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2019, 01:31 PM   #2
Clammer
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
Clammer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Warwick RI,02889
Posts: 11,702
puppet ,

plenty of 3# & under in Narr bay with a few 6 - 9 #

ENJOY WHAT YOU HAVE !!!

MIKE
Clammer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2019, 02:20 PM   #3
puppet
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 2,055
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clammer View Post
puppet ,

plenty of 3# & under in Narr bay with a few 6 - 9 #
Thanks for the heads up. I think mtk in ny and sandy hook in nj are other areas that still seem to hold them.

My plug collection is healthier without blues...but i suspect the fishery/ecosystem wuld be healthier if more were around.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
puppet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2019, 03:52 PM   #4
Clammer
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
Clammer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Warwick RI,02889
Posts: 11,702
as of yet .there is a real shortage of small bait ><>

ENJOY WHAT YOU HAVE !!!

MIKE
Clammer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2019, 05:47 PM   #5
Poncho
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
Poncho's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: NBPT
Posts: 415
We had 24 eels destroyed by 9:30 today plenty of blue fish
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
Poncho is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-19-2019, 07:29 PM   #6
Raider Ronnie
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
Raider Ronnie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: On my boat
Posts: 9,685
Send a message via AIM to Raider Ronnie
I didn’t catch/land 1 single bluefish last year up inside or outside Boston harbor.
Last 4-5 years they show up for a few weeks (can’t get away from them) then disappear 🤔
Not even 1 day last year.
It use to be once they show up the Mackeral disappear.
We have Mackeral all season now.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
Raider Ronnie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2019, 01:44 PM   #7
patabate
Registered User
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 456
Was at the 1661 Inn on Block this week and pigged out on their brunch. Usually the centerpiece of the buffet is a smoked bluefish (Block Island Lox). It was missing and replaced by a smoked salmon. I asked the manager what happened to the traditional bluefish. She replied that the local fishermen couldn’t find any. Hard to imagine professional Block Island fishermen not being able to supply one bluefish in June. Sad state of affairs.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
patabate is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2019, 08:08 PM   #8
beamie
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
beamie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Marshfield, MA
Posts: 1,733
I am having a hard time finding the www.bluefishforever.com site
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
beamie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-22-2019, 10:14 PM   #9
Clammer
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
Clammer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Warwick RI,02889
Posts: 11,702
I ,m sure not crying ,but I,m still amazed how low the price is for them in RI ………..I know RI is always a descent drop than Boston …….But .50 for the last month >>WTF

ENJOY WHAT YOU HAVE !!!

MIKE
Clammer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2019, 10:41 AM   #10
MakoMike
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
MakoMike's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Newtown, CT
Posts: 5,659
Quote:
Originally Posted by Clammer View Post
I ,m sure not crying ,but I,m still amazed how low the price is for them in RI ………..I know RI is always a descent drop than Boston …….But .50 for the last month >>WTF
.50 is a good price for bluefish. When I was fishing out of Montauk some guys wouldn't get enough for bluefish to cover the shipping costs for a carton.

****MakoMike****

Http://www.Makomania.net

Official S-B Sponsor
MakoMike is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2019, 02:34 PM   #11
Got Stripers
Ledge Runner Baits
iTrader: (0)
 
Got Stripers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: I live in a house, but my soul is at sea.
Posts: 8,389
I remember fishing out of my old Basstracker V17 aluminum back it the mid to late 80’s out of Scituate and the numbers of peanut bunker from there all the way to Boston and inside Boston as well was unreal. You could just clear the jetty and catch as many gator blues as you could until your arms ached. I hate small blues, because they just chew up my plastic, but back in those days they were 15 lbers and bigger all day long. Yeah they still chewed up my plastic, but when they are that big, it was well worth the sacrifice.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
Got Stripers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2019, 03:47 PM   #12
Guppy
User
iTrader: (0)
 
Guppy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Cape Cod
Posts: 5,377
2x4 strapped across The transom with bungees tied to 100# ? Mono with hoochies..... hand line them in, wallup em on the head , throw it back in,, fill the boat ,,, fun :-)
Guppy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2019, 03:54 PM   #13
Jim in CT
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 20,428
Quote:
Originally Posted by patabate View Post
Was at the 1661 Inn on Block this week and pigged out on their brunch. Usually the centerpiece of the buffet is a smoked bluefish (Block Island Lox). It was missing and replaced by a smoked salmon. I asked the manager what happened to the traditional bluefish. She replied that the local fishermen couldn’t find any. Hard to imagine professional Block Island fishermen not being able to supply one bluefish in June. Sad state of affairs.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
that sounds like a terrible omen, Pat.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
Jim in CT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2019, 05:45 PM   #14
spence
Registered User
iTrader: (0)
 
spence's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: RI
Posts: 21,182
I generally am not a fan of oily or funky fish but about 8 years ago attended a local wedding and the caterers served some decent sized blues as a buffet entree. Some of the best fish I’ve ever had.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
spence is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2019, 05:52 PM   #15
RIROCKHOUND
Also known as OAK
iTrader: (0)
 
RIROCKHOUND's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
Posts: 10,349
Well cared for, bled and iced and served fresh it is good. Yesterday's just became fluke bait....
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
RIROCKHOUND is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-24-2019, 06:53 PM   #16
ivanputski
Pete K.
iTrader: (0)
 
ivanputski's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,926
I miss blues.... I rarely ever catch them anymore... they would often provide some action on slow nights, or get kids easily hooked on surfcasting... not anymore it seems.
ivanputski is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2019, 04:53 AM   #17
puppet
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 2,055
I might be in minority but I find equal enjoyment in catching most
anything. Bluefish, scup, searobin, fluke, skate, dogfish, squid,
clams....hahahaha, each one I enjoy.

Yes striped bass is high on the list, but I really do enjoy catching
anything.

Those of you who show indifference for other species like bluefish, I
wish you would reconsider. All of these animals are linked together in
a way that is critical to the targets that most of you prefer....like
striped bass.

There is something fascinating about nearly every creature in the
ocean. Something as mundane or as most feel as a nuisance....the
sea robin. What a crazy engineering. Those suckers gliding around
the sea floor. I have seen them blitz....hahahaha.

This is not my pic, but I really dig the patterns on searobins.

puppet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2019, 05:06 AM   #18
puppet
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 2,055
In spirit of what we enjoy...

puppet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2019, 05:44 AM   #19
Guppy
User
iTrader: (0)
 
Guppy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Cape Cod
Posts: 5,377
Quote:
Originally Posted by puppet View Post
In spirit of what we enjoy...

That’s cool,,,
LOL the lead singer looks like Mike Delzingo... I can just see it... LMAO
Guppy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-25-2019, 06:44 AM   #20
puppet
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 2,055
Quote:
Originally Posted by Guppy View Post
That’s cool,,,
LOL the lead singer looks like Mike Delzingo... I can just see it... LMAO
The B52s are great. That song was written in 1978...the good old days.

Get into the station wagon we are going to the cape!

puppet is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:28 AM.


Powered by vBulletin. Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Please use all necessary and proper safety precautions. STAY SAFE Striper Talk Forums
Copyright 1998-20012 Striped-Bass.com