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Old 01-25-2017, 05:56 AM   #1
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cut regulations by 75 percent

Trump said: "We think we can cut regulations by 75 percent. Maybe more, but by 75 percent."

(I agree there are many regulations that could be scrubbed as redundant )

When this doesn't happen with many other promises will He get the same condemnation as the below


"If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.( I kept Mine for the record )


Iraqi weapons of mass destruction (didn't have any)


"Read my lips: no new taxes." ( did what He thought was right for the country)

or is this another bait and switch saying 75% and get 10% reduction and call it a victory ?
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Old 01-25-2017, 06:26 AM   #2
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Trump said: "We think we can cut regulations by 75 percent. Maybe more, but by 75 percent."

(I agree there are many regulations that could be scrubbed as redundant )

When this doesn't happen with many other promises will He get the same condemnation as the below


"If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.( I kept Mine for the record )


Iraqi weapons of mass destruction (didn't have any)


"Read my lips: no new taxes." ( did what He thought was right for the country)

or is this another bait and switch saying 75% and get 10% reduction and call it a victory ?
Cutting regulations by 10% and greatly reducing the production of new ones would be a start. But I would prefer the 75% reduction and a trickle (if needed) of new ones--as a start.
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Old 01-25-2017, 09:28 AM   #3
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Trump said: "We think we can cut regulations by 75 percent. Maybe more, but by 75 percent."

(I agree there are many regulations that could be scrubbed as redundant )

When this doesn't happen with many other promises will He get the same condemnation as the below


"If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.( I kept Mine for the record )


Iraqi weapons of mass destruction (didn't have any)


"Read my lips: no new taxes." ( did what He thought was right for the country)

or is this another bait and switch saying 75% and get 10% reduction and call it a victory ?
Funny...yesterday, you said "we are in the now" when I brought up Obama. But here you are criticizing Trump for failures you predict will happen in the future.

Yes, he should be held accountable for failing to keep campaign promises.

How do you calculate what % or regulations were cut? Just by the number of regulations you got rid of? Or how much less work companies need to do, to comply with regulations? A very tough thing to measure with any precision.

He needs to tone it down. He claimed in one speech that the violence in Chicago "was about to come to an end". He can't wave his hand and make the murder rate drop to zero. he shouldn't claim he can.

He's probably going to move things, significantly, in what he feels is the right direction. Then we'll see the results and judge.
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How much has the national I.Q. Been cut ?
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that depends on how many take advantage of the legal dope

The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.

1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!

It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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Trump said: "We think we can cut regulations by 75 percent. Maybe more, but by 75 percent."

(I agree there are many regulations that could be scrubbed as redundant )

When this doesn't happen with many other promises will He get the same condemnation as the below


"If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.( I kept Mine for the record )you live in Mass. we all kept our doctors, Affordable Healthcare did not affect us here so why bring that up


Iraqi weapons of mass destruction (didn't have any)


"Read my lips: no new taxes." ( did what He thought was right for the country) The Dems put an add on to a bill he wanted so he gets crucified

or is this another bait and switch saying 75% and get 10% reduction and call it a victory ?
I thought the subject was regulation cuts

The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.

1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!

It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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exactly what it was when Obama was in office....same 320 million that were here the day before the election are still here after the election. its not like they replaced them all.

but maybe we could increase it if a few people would keep their promise and head north of the border.

"If you're arguing with an idiot, make sure he isn't doing the same thing."
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I will patiently be awaiting the wars to come. Maybe Russia and USA will team up in Afghanistan. That will get global oil prices to rise. You can already see the staging for this. You heard it here first.
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The way half the dip #^&#^&#^&#^&s in this country are acting right now it just may be inside our borders first.

Does your incessant whining make you feel better? How about you just shut the hell up and suck it up? It's a fishing forum , so please just stop.
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You could be right. Obama made us all think the government would take away our guns. Trump is making some feel we will actually need them.
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Saw a news story today that more women are getting IUDs because they're afraid Trump is going to take their reproductive rights away.
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I think this comes down to the possibility of loosing health insurance and not being able to obtain the pill. IUD's are set and forget compared to monthly prescription pills.
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I think this comes down to the possibility of loosing health insurance and not being able to obtain the pill. IUD's are set and forget compared to monthly prescription pills.
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If it comes down to losing health insurance, there will be a lot more and important things than the pill that will not be able to obtained.
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No chit Sherlock. So you throw in an iud
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Hey, you're the one who threw in the chit of losing health insurance.
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I don't think there's any surprise that people might loose their insurance.
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If the penalty for not purchasing insurance is removed, there will probably be some who will not, voluntarily, buy it. There will probably be various plans to choose from, including catastrophic insurance. There may be health savings plans. There may be some form of basic coverage for poor or unemployed people implemented by state or local governments. And there will be health care for serious problems even for uninsured.

Who knows until it happens. And if there is this terrible burden on some to buy their own contraceptives, there could be some form of government as well as health care agencies which provide it for the poor. It is not necessary to charge every buyer of insurance for birth control.

I don't foresee any dire consequences. Predicting them might be more harmful than usefel.

A LOT of things can be done to make insurance voluntary and reasonable.
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I will patiently be awaiting the wars to come. Maybe Russia and USA will team up in Afghanistan. That will get global oil prices to rise. You can already see the staging for this. You heard it here first.
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if you happen to get one right it will be the first in memory but I give you an "A" for effort...you know...for your self-esteem
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what exactly is a "reproductive right"?
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Funny...yesterday, you said "we are in the now" when I brought up Obama. But here you are criticizing Trump for failures you predict will happen No I said past behavior of others doesn't equal a pass for those in the present.. this topic is not about the statements its about how the parties and people responded to these statements and outcomes I am sure Trumps statement of75% is pure Hyperbole . but do others ? in the future.

Yes, he should be held accountable for failing to keep campaign promises.

How do you calculate what % or regulations were cut? Just by the number of regulations you got rid of? Or how much less work companies need to do, to comply with regulations? A very tough thing to measure with any precision.

He needs to tone it down. He claimed in one speech that the violence in Chicago "was about to come to an end". He can't wave his hand and make the murder rate drop to zero. he shouldn't claim he can.

He's probably going to move things, significantly, in what he feels is the right direction. Then we'll see the results and judge.
As you said he needs to tone it down and I agree but i am not sure its in his nature to do so..
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As you said he needs to tone it down and I agree but i am not sure its in his nature to do so..
he's President...he can say whatever he wants in whatever tone he wants to say it in
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I don't think they really know....
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As you said he needs to tone it down and I agree but i am not sure its in his nature to do so..
Agreed, 100%
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