The Senate has time to investigate Spygate? - Striper Talk Striped Bass Fishing, Surfcasting, Boating

Hooper · 02-02-2008, 11:18 AM

One day before the Super Bowl we get this:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22951415/

The national sports media is now back on the Spygate warpath...can we remind them that it's STILL not illegal to videotape you opponets? Sean Salsibury and Steve Young are on ESPN right now completely disregarding that it is OK to tape you opponent. "If you know what your opponent is doing, that ruins the game of football"

Here we go, the campaign to discredit the greatest football team of alltime is in high gear! What a bunch of crap....

afterhours · 02-02-2008, 02:25 PM

arlen schpincter. (sp)

this guy should be taken to the vets and be euthanized.

wrikerjr · 02-02-2008, 03:22 PM

what a waste of money. why would congress care if the pats cheated and why would they care if the nfl destroyed the evidence.

I fully understand if congress wants to be involved in steriods, but spygate. I think we can all let spygate go. its the playoffs and less than a week away from the superbowl, if you need a story your not a football fan period.

BassDawg · 02-02-2008, 03:30 PM

He has been outta touch with the
State of Reality and in touch with the
State of Denial for soooooo long,
that it is well past time for him to be
removed from office or anything else that
involves critical, objective thinking.

The worst part about these "inside the beltway" types is that before long they start to believe their own press, and deem themselves above refute. The JUDICIARY COMMITTEE!!!!

You gotta be effffin' with me on this one! What a shameless shill for the Cable Guy!!

And if ya think that this is egregious, just wait until we truly delve into what "W" did and didn't know about 911. There are just way too many cowinkadinks!!

BassDawg · 02-02-2008, 05:02 PM

While i agree that this is monetarily motivated, the silver lining is
the PATS are gonna eat this up. I mean how badly DOES Sen Sphincter want us to trounce the NY Football Giants?

Anybody else beginning to notice the national slant towards NY?
Ya know like the people outside of sports. It's amazing to me that these people cain't just watch and enjoy the genius and domination that is THE New England Patriots!!!!

wrikerjr · 02-02-2008, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BassDawg

While i agree that this is monetarily motivated, the silver lining is
the PATS are gonna eat this up. I mean how badly DOES Sen Sphincter want us to trounce the NY Football Giants?

Anybody else beginning to notice the national slant towards NY?
Ya know like the people outside of sports. It's amazing to me that these people cain't just watch and enjoy the genius and domination that is THE New England Patriots!!!!

BassDawg,

Once you become a dynasty everyone roots against you. Its just the natural order of things.

I just hope it is a good game.

BigFish · 02-02-2008, 07:04 PM

This was over and done some time ago...Congress has no business getting involved! I am done discussing it......we have a Superbowl to dominate!

vineyardblues · 02-02-2008, 07:25 PM

Spector looks like he got tea bagged way to many times

He looks like he has two nut sac's as cheeks

And I hope he reads THIS !!!

VB

BassDawg · 02-03-2008, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by wrikerjr

BassDawg,

Once you become a dynasty everyone roots against you. Its just the natural order of things.

I just hope it is a good game.

i hear ya, wriker!

just think that its comical that the more they
try to throw a wrench into the werks, the more
OUR team seems to dominate. OOOOO RAHHH!

ThomCat · 02-03-2008, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by vineyardblues

Spector looks like he got tea bagged way to many times

He looks like he has two nut sac's as cheeks

And I hope he reads THIS !!!

VB

Yup, definately time to sew some names tags in his clothes, buy him a pair of white loafers and matching belt and send him down to one of the drooling academys in Boca to wait on the early bird special.#56
P.S. And take this sad sack of moldy melting molecules with him!:raiders:

Raider Ronnie · 02-03-2008, 09:44 AM

Some kind of explanation from Belichick and the Pats would have gone a long way to ending this speculation!
Him ONLY saying "We are moving on" dosen't cut it for a lot of people!
Add in the fines $500K for Belichick, $250K for the Pats, and loosing a #1 pick.

BigFish · 02-03-2008, 09:56 AM

Ronnie......this was settled already and we do not need to revisit it! Its all talk and hot air.....after the game it will disappear in the wind like a bad fart!

Raider Ronnie · 02-03-2008, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by BigFish

Ronnie......this was settled already and we do not need to revisit it! Its all talk and hot air.....after the game it will disappear in the wind like a bad fart!

$500K is a lot of hot air.
Most people would not go down without a fight if they were fined 15% of their pay (I know I would)

ThomCat · 02-03-2008, 10:24 AM

QUOTE=Raider Ronnie;562021]$500K is a lot of hot air.
Most people would not go down without a fight if they were fined 15% of their pay (I know I would)[/QUOTE]

wrikerjr · 02-03-2008, 10:31 AM

i guess the question is not really about cheating against the jets but how long have they cheated and if so, what are the effects.

To me, that is something for the NFl if they want to investigate rather than the senate.

The Dad Fisherman · 02-03-2008, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

$500K is a lot of hot air.
Most people would not go down without a fight if they were fined 15% of their pay (I know I would)

Probably because he knew he got bagged. He paid the fine and moved on. He doesn't owe us anything, he settled it with the league and he settled it with his Boss....all done.

When you get bagged for speeding or something and you choose to pay the fine does anybody wait around after you hand them the check, asking for an Explanation....No....you pay them and move on.

wrikerjr · 02-03-2008, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Probably because he knew he got bagged. He paid the fine and moved on. He doesn't owe us anything, he settled it with the league and he settled it with his Boss....all done.

When you get bagged for speeding or something and you choose to pay the fine does anybody wait around after you hand them the check, asking for an Explanation....No....you pay them and move on.

apples and oranges

Raider Ronnie · 02-03-2008, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Probably because he knew he got bagged. He paid the fine and moved on. He doesn't owe us anything, he settled it with the league and he settled it with his Boss....all done.

When you get bagged for speeding or something and you choose to pay the fine does anybody wait around after you hand them the check, asking for an Explanation....No....you pay them and move on.

From what I know, he didn't "choose" to pay the fine.
He had no choice.
They claim, every team was doing the same thing (filming)
No other coach has ever been fined, certainly not 1/2 a mil!

The Dad Fisherman · 02-03-2008, 11:39 AM

Whether he Chose to or not, he paid it....probably part of settling with league and boss, (my guess is they didn't want to drag it out).....it should close the book on it.

I still don't see why he "Owes" us an explanation...

pmueller · 02-03-2008, 11:43 AM

Now they want Tom Brady to interview with Spector on Tuesday

pmueller · 02-03-2008, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

From what I know, he didn't "choose" to pay the fine.
He had no choice.
They claim, every team was doing the same thing (filming)
No other coach has ever been fined, certainly not 1/2 a mil!

The thing thats not coming up is that this was legal until this year.

Raider Ronnie · 02-03-2008, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by pmueller

The thing thats not coming up is that this was legal until this year.

Ya, but $500K is pretty excessive for a fine, (plus 250 for team and #1) pick don't you think ?
This whole situation just doesn't add up !

Raider Ronnie · 02-03-2008, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Strike_King

49ers got whacked hard as well for their cap shananigans back in their hayday:

http://www.boulderpublishing.com/spo...a382023a.shtml

Taking away lower picks would have hurt the Pats more,as they rarely keep high first round draft picks (Not that they've had many)

Who gets the fine money anyway?
Does it go into a general fund?
to charity?

afterhours · 02-03-2008, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by pmueller

The thing thats not coming up is that this was legal until this year.

brady should tell the spinchter to go pinch a loaf....

Raider Ronnie · 02-03-2008, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Strike_King

According to this:

From that explanation it sounds more like a charitable donation!
So maybe Bill B can use the $500K as a tax write off !

wrikerjr · 02-03-2008, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Strike_King

Doubt it..Donations are made from the league..The league would get the tax write off

Though maybe with some creative accounting,he can somehow expense the fine

If BB wanted to be the next richard hatch he would try to claim a deduction from his taxes, but he is a lot smarter than that.

As part of the NFL anti-trust agreement they have different tax rules, not sure if involves donations, which under the anti-trust agreement have to go to charity.

Mike P · 02-03-2008, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ThomCat

P.S. And take this sad sack of moldy melting molecules with him!:raiders:

Al's probably rooting for you today, if he still remembers how to put his socks on. Besides the fact that he'd love all of the videogate fuss, this is original AFL versus the ultimate NFL Establishment franchise

wrikerjr · 02-03-2008, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Strike_King

I said it jokingly..Obviously he's not going to do that...

i know you were joking, just tossing it up a little. Good Luck today in the superbowl.

moosh · 02-03-2008, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by vineyardblues

Spector looks like he got tea bagged way to many times

He looks like he has two nut sac's as cheeks

And I hope he reads THIS !!!

VB

Thats funny we should elect all those bums in cong out office and start fresh ,there all a bunch of fat lobbiest fed freeks that have to much power for too long. "thats all time for the meds" this politic stuff drives me crazy

pmueller · 02-03-2008, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

Ya, but $500K is pretty excessive for a fine, (plus 250 for team and #1) pick don't you think ?
This whole situation just doesn't add up !

I couldn't agree more. I think Spector and the Beagles are the biggest loooooooooosers around.