Is Pelosi a liar or a lunatic?

[Jim in CT]

In her last press conference as speaker of the house, Nancy Pelosi said this...

"Deficit reduction has been a high priority for us. It is our mantra, pay-as-you-go. Unfortunately, that will be changed now. "

Deficit reduction has been the mantra of this Congress? During her 4 years as speaker, the federal deficit increased by $5 trillion. She added FOUR BILLION DOLLARS A DAY to the deficit, and then she stands there with a straight face and says that deficit reduction was her mantra?

She is either a liar, or she is a lunatic. There is no third option. This woman keeps getting elected every 2 years, and at one point was third in line for the presidency. This is one of the leaders of the liberal movement.

Yep, those liberal Democrats are very fiscally responsible. Next, they'll claim to be the champions of the unborn...

How will Spence come to her rescue, I wonder?

[Nebe]

Pay as you go? Lolz
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[RIJIMMY]

Jim -
a brief view into my journey from liberal (or so I thought) to conservative.
Living in San Francisco, Im in my mid 20s. Most of my friends are dead head, hippy types. One Saturday they're on their way to a protest, i was hanging at their house. they were goign to protest the imprisonment of mumia jamal, a rasta type guy arested for shooting a cop. I pressed them on why he should be released. They go round and round about racism, blah, blah, blah. But I kept asking did he or didnt he shoot a cop? Rounds and rounds of nonsense and no one could explain if he did or didnt shoot a cop. My point is that this type of self inflated rightousness is what makes true liberals thrive. They have a battle that most are too ignorant to understand. Pelosi is in that vein.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

Jim -
a brief view into my journey from liberal (or so I thought) to conservative.
Living in San Francisco, Im in my mid 20s. Most of my friends are dead head, hippy types. One Saturday they're on their way to a protest, i was hanging at their house. they were goign to protest the imprisonment of mumia jamal, a rasta type guy arested for shooting a cop. I pressed them on why he should be released. They go round and round about racism, blah, blah, blah. But I kept asking did he or didnt he shoot a cop? Rounds and rounds of nonsense and no one could explain if he did or didnt shoot a cop. My point is that this type of self inflated rightousness is what makes true liberals thrive. They have a battle that most are too ignorant to understand. Pelosi is in that vein.

You are right of course, and that's why I say liberalism is a mental disorder. There is no other explanation.

I know all about Abu Mumia Jamal. I actually met Ed Asner once, and he is one of those Hollywood celebrities who thinks Mumia Jamal should be freed and made a hero. I asked the fat slob if he knew of any exculpatory evidence, or any issues of unfairness during the trial, and he couldn't think of anything. He was committed to the cause of freeing Abu Jamal, yet he had no idea why he should be behind that cause.

Abu Jamal didn't just shoot a cop, he killed a cop. In France, I swear to God, they made him (Abu Jamal) an honorary citizen. They bestowed an honor on a convicted cop-killer.

This is why I get nasty in some of these posts, I have no patience for these people anymore. I know some honest, fair, thoughtful liberals, but not many. Most liberals I know are of the brainwashed, thoughtless, intellectually dishonest type (you almost need to fit that description to buy into that agenda), completely unable to articulate why their ideas are better than conservative ideas, yet more than willing to attack conservatives...

[RIJIMMY]

crazy

[Nebe]

There are crazy right wingers as well..
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[fishbones]

Originally Posted by Nebe

There are crazy right wingers as well..
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Crazy doesn't have a party affiliation. It runs ramant through society.

Why can't Pelosi be both a lunatic and a liar? I hate having to make tough decisions like having to pick just one thing when both options are fitting.

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by Nebe

There are crazy right wingers as well..
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true. But I think the crazy left is more mainstream, if that makes sense. I dont know any bible thumping right wingers but know plenty of looney lefties. Might just be cuz I live in MA.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

true. But I think the crazy left is more mainstream, if that makes sense. I dont know any bible thumping right wingers but know plenty of looney lefties. Might just be cuz I live in MA.

Bingo.
I spent a summer in western Virgina as an undegrad, and the ratio was flipped the otherway.

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

true. But I think the crazy left is more mainstream, if that makes sense. I dont know any bible thumping right wingers but know plenty of looney lefties. Might just be cuz I live in MA.

As hound said... Go south and go to the Midwest.
Git er done.
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[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by Nebe

As hound said... Go south and go to the Midwest.
Git er done.
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that and the awesome barbecue, I may just do it!

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

There are crazy right wingers as well..
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I agree, I never said that conservatives have a monopoly on virtue.

But someone (Spence, RIRockhound) please tell me when one of the top 5 conservative politicians in the country, said something that obviously crazy and false. I can't think of anything, I just cannot. If John Boehner had a press conference and said "affirmative action is the mantra of the republican party", he would correctly be labeled as a lunatic and he would be rightly expelled from public service.

Some may say Bush was that wrong when he concluded that Iraq had WMD's, but a LOT of people agreed with Bush at that time. No one on the planet earth believes that there is a shred of truth to what Pelosi said. She is truly bizarre, and I submit that someone that disconnected from reality would not get elected speaker of the house as a republican.

Who will be the next Democratic speaker? John Hinkley?

[stcroixman]

Originally Posted by Nebe

There are crazy right wingers as well..
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Very true. Now they will be front and center and Pelosi won't be.

In the end - what about we the people? We vote and can't ever seem to get what we want or need. Too many special interests seem to influence all these polititcians.

Everyone knows we have Deficit issues and Economic issues and the new congress is targeting health insurance like the old congress did.

Why not cut the corporate tax and bring some jobs back to the USA?

[Raven]

Originally Posted by stcroixman

Why not cut the corporate tax and bring some jobs back to the USA?

Excellent Idea in theory
but the corporate greed will prevail

[RIJIMMY]

[QUOTE=stcroixman;824441]Very true. Now they will be front and center and Pelosi won't be.

InQUOTE]

you really think Boehner is as nutty (on the right) as Pelosi is left?

[Fly Rod]

Is Pelosi a liar or a lunatic?

BOTH!

[fishbones]

Liar

[PaulS]

If someone pledges to eliminate 100 billion from this year's budget are they a lunitic, a liar or just disconnected from reality?

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by PaulS

If someone pledges to eliminate 100 billion from this year's budget are they a lunitic, a liar or just disconnected from reality?

They're someone that will move this country in the right direction. The journey of a thousand miles begins with a first step.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

If someone pledges to eliminate 100 billion from this year's budget are they a lunitic, a liar or just disconnected from reality?

None of the above. Why?

[FishermanTim]

I think the third choice would be BOTH!

[Raven]

can't be both ...thats way to complex a title for her

she's a lying lunatic

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

None of the above. Why?

Well the Repubs. have 360 days to reduce this year's budget by the $100 billion that I heard they proposed. If not, then they'd have to be one of the 3 right? I think that they have already suggested $30 million - still a ways to go.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Well the Repubs. have 360 days to reduce this year's budget by the $100 billion that I heard they proposed. If not, then they'd have to be one of the 3 right? I think that they have already suggested $30 million - still a ways to go.

If the GOP says they'll try to reduce the deficit, and they try but Obama vetoes all legislation (for example) they wouldn't be any of those things.

If the GOP votes repeatedly to increase the deficit, and they still claim that their mantra was lowering the deficit, then they are one of the above. Pelosi is inarguably in one of those buckets. Time will tell if the GOP is any better. I don't see how they could be worse.

So Paul, you responded to my query by criticizing the GOP on their very first day. How about giving them a chance? And what do you say about Pelosi?

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

If the GOP says they'll try to reduce the deficit, and they try but Obama vetoes all legislation (for example) they wouldn't be any of those things.

If Obama vetoes all legislation, then the GOP having promised to reduce this year's budget is disconnected from reality. Why make a promise you can't keep? How did they expect to keep their promise? I know Obama will veto all legislation (just as I know this year's budget won't be lowered $100 billion). You can't promise you'll do something if there is no way that it will happen.

If they're able to lower the budget what they stated - good for them for accomplishing what they promised and let them be rewarded for that.

I don't want any legislators (Pelosi or the GOP) promising/stating anything that won't happen or they can't do. That is not party dependent - they're all the same.

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Well the Repubs. have 360 days to reduce this year's budget by the $100 billion that I heard they proposed. If not, then they'd have to be one of the 3 right? I think that they have already suggested $30 million - still a ways to go.

Ya, what gives, they've already been in control of the House, for what 7 hours now.

[striperman36]

She's a nutjob. but most of them are so detached from their constituency that they have no clue what people really want.

Let them spend more time back home and have friggin web conferences.

JohnnyD can get the biz to set them up.

[Chesapeake Bill]

Being from the area where Nancy grew up and knowing the family (and unfortunately Nancy) pretty well I can say that she is not crazy. She is, however, a part of the political machine in Maryland that, like the Kennedy family in Mass, has a stranglehold for years and maintains close ties. Nancy is the daughter of Tommy D'Alesandro, Jr. (Former Congressman) and brother of Tommy the 3rd. Both Tommy's were former mayors of Baltimore and powerful within the MD Democratic party. When Nancy lost the speaker's position Steny Hoyer (D-MD) was in line to become the Minotrity Leader. However, there was some sort of a deal cut to keep Nancy as Leader and put Steny as the Whip.

Crazy? No. Sly like a fox and out of touch? Yes.

[UserRemoved1]

BEST picture I seen in years.



Now if they can just get the other jackbag out of there we'd be all set

[Raven]

just saw that sign in half lengthwise

prolly pay $500.00 for a replacement