Cairo

[spence]

And I thought you'd be tickled to see I wrote something just because I knew it would go right up your ass

I forgot I was supposed to be ignoring you.

-spence

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

And I thought you'd be tickled to see I wrote something just because I knew it would go right up your ass

-spence

"I'm Congressman Barney Frank.... and I approved this message"

what happened to the "new era of civility"...or "era of new civility" or "new civility era" ?

[buckman]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Isreal is #^&#^&#^&#^&ting bricks over this.
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Even Obama would back Isreal. We should be sh$%ing bricks.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by JohnR

I'm no Obama apologist but not much he can do.

"YES...WE....AHHHHHH....HE...CAN!"
"YES...WE....AHHHHHH....HE...CAN!"
"YES...WE....AHHHHHH....HE...CAN!"
"YES...WE....AHHHHHH....HE...CAN!"
"YES...WE....AHHHHHH....HE...CAN!"

AHHHH...just words

for a guy that has so much to say so frequently, he has surprisingly little to say when people are actually hoping he'll say something....

[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

Even Obama would back Isreal. We should be sh$%ing bricks.

I'm not so sure...

The peace deal lasted 30 years, largely because the Egyptian military didn't have any reason to break it. It's largely secular, and to incite unrest or ignore radicalism means they loose their money for bread and milk.

Unless the power shifted dramatically to the right, which isn't likely to happen to quickly, why would the military have any motive to not continue to cooperate?

It's also possible that this event will actually move parts of the Muslim Brotherhood towards the middle as they try to gain legitimacy as a viable political entity by distancing themselves from the more fundamental movements they actually helped spawn.

-spence

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by spence

It's also possible that this event will actually move parts of the Muslim Brotherhood towards the middle as they try to gain legitimacy as a viable political entity by distancing themselves from the more fundamental movements they actually helped spawn.

-spence

Hahaha - well, I suppose it is possible. And while the MB *might* move a little more docile, many will splinter off and go more radical. So while the name may move more center many of the participants may become more radical.

I am crossing my fingers that this moves more real democracy in Egypt but this is the middle east. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

It's also possible that this event will actually move parts of the Muslim Brotherhood towards the middle as they try to gain legitimacy as a viable political entity by distancing themselves from the more fundamental movements they actually helped spawn.

-spence

more likely pretend to move to the middle(ala Obama) to gain legitimacy as a viable political entity and/while empowering/entrenching the more fundamental movements they helped spawn.....

To this day, the Brotherhood’s motto remains, “Allah is our objective, the Prophet is our leader, the Koran is our law, Jihad is our way, and dying in the way of Allah is our highest hope. Allahu akbar!”

McCarthy does a very thorough job reminding us who the "Brotherhood" actually is

Fear the Muslim Brotherhood - Andrew C. McCarthy - National Review Online

[buckman]

Did you happen to notice that the new motto for MB is "Change"?....Oy Vay

[UserRemoved]

I really am starting to think they need to just carpet bomb this entire section of the world. I wouldn't miss them. I think the world would be a better place.

Anderson Cooper Attacked by Mob in Egypt - The Hollywood Reporter

[UserRemoved]

total anarchy

Video - Breaking News Videos from CNN.com

[spence]

Things are getting uglier tonight...some reports say the Mubarak supporters are being paid to incite violence...hmmmm...

State Department is telling Americans to get out and I noticed the Admin has ratcheted up it's rhetoric throughout the day.

-spence

[JohnR]

death spiral

[UserRemoved]

I saw a report yesterday that said one second they were throwing rocks and stones breaking peoples heads open then the next they were hugging and kissing.

WTF

Keep throwing rocks. They'll have social security, free health insurance and a big stimulus soon.

[UserRemoved]

Video - Breaking News Videos from CNN.com

[Raven]

ANDERSON Cooper should of realized
that his life was in eminent danger

Sure ...you have to be on the edge of the volcano
to see the molten Lava but don't be there when it erupts.

these people are running around shoe less after bottles were
smashed everywhere , so they're obviously going insane.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by scottw

maybe another Cairo speech by MuBarack Obama is in order...the muslim street swooned last time didn't they?..he could hypnotize them with his brilliant oratory, maybe send in NASA to help out with the self-esteem thing

some coincidences are odd...arent they?

William Jefferson Clinton....
B.J.Clinton


Barack Hussein Obama....

(Mu)barak (Saddam) Hussein O(s)ama Binladen


OBAMA/BIDEN.....Hope&Change

O(s)ama/Bi(nla)den


weird probably just coincidence

I wonder what ever happened to the people who said that these "types" weren't ready for democracy...that the elections in Iraq would never take place and that for all of his faults, we would have been better leaving a dictator in place because that was the only practical way to keep the various factions in check...these protests may have started as "educated student protests" but these students are highly radicalized in their schools...there is the very real possibility that the new order is far more dangerous and radical than the old...sort of like Iran way back when, I wonder when the executions will begin?...infact, the parallels are striking...if you judge an administration...Carter, Clinton, Obama by how dangerous the world becomes and how empowered foreign aggressors become under their watch...the dems come out WAY UP on top... I guess they are good at something...

[spence]

Originally Posted by Saltys

Keep throwing rocks. They'll have social security, free health insurance and a big stimulus soon.

Yea, looking like America would sure be a tragedy wouldn't it?
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[scottw]

Obama to the Egyptian Protesters..."we hear your voices"
Obama to the Tea Party Protesters..."bleep you"

[RIJIMMY]

its a shame its getting ugly. For a minute I thought this may be a positive sign and could lead to a new world in the middle east.

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

its a shame its getting ugly. For a minute I thought this may be a positive sign and could lead to a new world in the middle east.

name one thing that is involved with islamic religion and a power struggle that doesnt get ugly???


people will be shooting i a few days when they start getting even more frustrated.

[The Dad Fisherman]

A few days..there was shooting going on today over there

[UserRemoved]

[likwid]

Google will take over Egypt.

[JohnR]

getting real interesting there now.

Originally Posted by likwid

Google will take over Egypt.

That was pretty interesting what they were doing.

[Raven]

now get back to work

[buckman]

IT's getting clearer ever day that Obama is clueless. CIA a total lack of what's going on. Sound familier???

[scottw]

not going to be pretty....

Obama, Panetta and Clapper...= Larry, Mo, Curly

hey, just looking at the protesters signs it is very apparent that Egypt has a much higher English language functional literacy rate than Detroit, Michigan

Hosni should find a Giant gavel and march right through the protesters like Pelosi did with her gang of thugs and see how things turn out ...I mean, these peaceful, educated Egyptian student protesters are far more civil that the evil, ignorant Tea Party types

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by scottw

Obama to the Egyptian Protesters..."we hear your voices"
Obama to the Tea Party Protesters..."bleep you"

What drives me crazy is the lack of the President's support for the people
in the recent uprising in Iran, where Ahmadinejad is close to
having nuclear weapons, supports terrorism against us, and
vows to destroy Israel.

Then when it comes to Egypt and Mubarak, our ally, a stable influence in the region, our President supports the people's uprising within a few days.
OK if it ends in a pro American democratic election, but a tragedy if the WB becomes a part of the government and has a say in the direction of the country.
Time will tell.

[spence]

Originally Posted by justplugit

What drives me crazy is the lack of the President's support for the people
in the recent uprising in Iran, where Ahmadinejad is close to
having nuclear weapons, supports terrorism against us, and
vows to destroy Israel.

Then when it comes to Egypt and Mubarak, our ally, a stable influence in the region, our President supports the people's uprising within a few days.
OK if it ends in a pro American democratic election, but a tragedy if the WB becomes a part of the government and has a say in the direction of the country.
Time will tell.

This is a bit more complicated than rooting at a Pats game. There's a lot of US meddling in their affairs over the years and generally speaking not a lot of trust in the US.

I think Obama has done a good job of voicing support for the Democratic institutions and walking a very find line to not make the US look like flaming hypocrites. We won't know for a while the full story of what's been done behind the scenes, but first look says this could end up being a very positive change.

What's perhaps most important is that one of the largest Islamic nations has led a completely peaceful coup. The precedent this sets is...we'll...perhaps unprecedented.

-spence

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by spence

This is a bit more complicated than rooting at a Pats game.

-spence

Thanks so much Spence, for breaking it down so even I can understand.