oil at $82 and going up like an elevator

[Jim in CT]

that’ll help Brandon’s polling numbers.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

that’ll help Brandon’s polling numbers.

and only the gullible think a POTUS has anything to do with the price of Oil..

But they will try blaming it on canceling keystone pipeline that hadn't been built or say something about oil leases even when have of the current leases are not being used

And they we all ignore with increased demand comes increase in prices

[Pete F.]

I'd blame Soros and the cabal

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

and only the gullible think a POTUS has anything to do with the price of Oil..

But they will try blaming it on canceling keystone pipeline that hadn't been built or say something about oil leases even when have of the current leases are not being used

And they we all ignore with increased demand comes increase in prices

only an idiot thinks the president has everything to do with it. and only an idiot thinks he nothing to do with it.

american supply also impacts the price, as does the perception of stability ( or lack thereof) in the middle east.

i bet big when oil crashed, partly because of this anti-oil idiot, chaos-iinducing moron in the white house. paying off nicely. Bought a big chunk of USO.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

only an idiot thinks the president has everything to do with it. and only an idiot thinks he nothing to do with it.

american supply also impacts the price, as does the perception of stability ( or lack thereof) in the middle east.

i bet big when oil crashed, partly because of this anti-oil idiot, chaos-iinducing moron in the white house. paying off nicely. Bought a big chunk of USO.
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Jim oil production in the United States is not controlled by the Government. And it’s exactly at the same levels as it was under Trump

Your living in a fantasy world, and how supply and demand economy actually works

Prices have risen as more vaccinated populations are brought out of coronavirus lockdowns, supporting a revival in economic activity.

We’re looking at not just the UK and Europe but a potential global energy crisis coming into the winter,”. https://www.ft.com/content/14d4980b-...a-fb2b7f7d2c27


Energy crisis, labour shortages and supply chain issues hitting the UK -

https://news.sky.com/story/energy-cr...hreat-12415007

I don’t understand why many Americans always think we are the center of the universe

Like I’ve said before you need to expand your reading list
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[wdmso]

U.S. Regular All Formulations Retail Gasoline Prices (Dollars per Gallon) In 2012 Jan 3.380 feb 3.579 mar 3.852 apr 3.900 may 3.732 June 3.539 July 3.439 aug 3.722 sept 3.849 oct 3.746 nov 3.452 dec 3.310

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/Le...te_nus_dpg&f=m

And of course the right is trying to suggest these gas prices have never happened before ! So be afraid
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

U.S. Regular All Formulations Retail Gasoline Prices (Dollars per Gallon) In 2012 Jan 3.380 feb 3.579 mar 3.852 apr 3.900 may 3.732 June 3.539 July 3.439 aug 3.722 sept 3.849 oct 3.746 nov 3.452 dec 3.310

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/Le...te_nus_dpg&f=m

And of course the right is trying to suggest these gas prices have never happened before ! So be afraid
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PLEASE tell me who said those prices have never happened before? Please?

i’m not sure if you’ve ever worked in the private sector, but surging costs aren’t a good thing. in public labor unions, you can just confiscate everything you need from your neighbors with force of law, so you don’t care. In the real world, surging costs make it harder to do business. So yes, there can be a reason to be concerned when oil prices spike.

just because it’s not a winning political issue for you, doesn’t mean it’s not legitimate.

Wayne is there anything that paints liberalism in a negative light, which is true? or is everything that helps conservatives, necessarily a manufactured lie?

When you have to resort to blatant lies, that means you can’t respond to the truth. also means you’re not a serious person.

Have you ever once said “the democrats blew that, that’s going to hurt them”? Have you ever said that, on a single issue? Ever?

We all understand it would make your life easier if every single thing that happened, painted democrats in a favorable light and republicans in an evil light. But real life isn’t that simple. Both sides have meaningful successes and meaningful failures, both sides have good ideas and bad ideas, both sides have honorable people and scumbags. it must be exhausting to feel the need to deny every single event that happens to make one side look bad.

In any event, if you could tell us who said that oil prices have never been this high, that would be appreciated.


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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

PLEASE tell me who said those prices have never happened before? Please?

i’m not sure if you’ve ever worked in the private sector, but surging costs aren’t a good thing. in public labor unions, you can just confiscate everything you need from your neighbors with force of law, so you don’t care. In the real world, surging costs make it harder to do business. So yes, there can be a reason to be concerned when oil prices spike.

just because it’s not a winning political issue for you, doesn’t mean it’s not legitimate.

Wayne is there anything that paints liberalism in a negative light, which is true? or is everything that helps conservatives, necessarily a manufactured lie?

When you have to resort to blatant lies, that means you can’t respond to the truth. also means you’re not a serious person.

Have you ever once said “the democrats blew that, that’s going to hurt them”? Have you ever said that, on a single issue? Ever?

We all understand it would make your life easier if every single thing that happened, painted democrats in a favorable light and republicans in an evil light. But real life isn’t that simple. Both sides have meaningful successes and meaningful failures, both sides have good ideas and bad ideas, both sides have honorable people and scumbags. it must be exhausting to feel the need to deny every single event that happens to make one side look bad.

In any event, if you could tell us who said that oil prices have never been this high, that would be appreciated.


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Jim liberals or liberalism has nothing to do with current gas prices



I am sorry you can’t accept that..

So now you want socialism government control of of gas prices

Because your the only one making this a political issue .. when it’s basic economics
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Jim liberals or liberalism has nothing to do with current gas prices



I am sorry you can’t accept that..

So now you want socialism government control of of gas prices

Because your the only one making this a political issue .. when it’s basic economics
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(1) you claimed that republicans said oil prices have never been this high. Please tell us who is saying that? Or did you make it up.

(2) the president of the US can have an impact on oil prices, and this one has. He's obviously anti fracking and not a fan of domestic production, which decreases the supply. Do you know what happens to something, when the supply decreases? It goes up. Additionally, perceived stability in the middle east impacts oil prices, and nobody thinks that the prospects of Middle East peace improved when Biden took his hand off the bible.

I can accept everything, because unlike you, I'm not a slave to what I believe. I can go wherever the truth takes me. It's you who has to invent things to protect your ideology, things like saying republicans are claiming oil is at an all time high. Nobody said that. But you lied and claimed they did, because it helps your side. And that's all that matters to you.

Oil had nowhere to go but up when Biden took office, mostly because covid crushed worldwide demand. No matter who became president in 2020, oil prices would have gone up. But it's logical to assume that Bidens agenda pushed prices higher than they'd have gone under a president who was an aggressive pro-production potus. If you ever read chapter 1 of any economics text, you'd understand the impact of supply on price.

You keep telling yourself that Bidens poling is nothing to worry about. And keep telling yourself that America will embrace Harris if she has to run in 2024 which is likely. When you nominate a president with dementia, and a VP who is amazingly un-impressive and un-likeable except for her skin color and gender, well, maybe that's short-sighted and stupid like it was when the GOP nominated Trump. Maybe, maybe not. What we know for sure, is the only president with polling lower at this point, got absolutely creamed at re-election. Creamed. So a rational person would say he's really struggling. Not one of you can concede that, all is swell according to you. Spence says he's doing fine. He has the entire media except one TV station doing commercials for him all day long, and STILL he's below 40%. Imagine if the press was actually fair.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

(2) the president of the US can have an impact on oil prices, and this one has.

Biden is set to approve more new oil and gas drilling permits this year than any under Trump or Obama. We have a production setback from multiple hurricanes that has nothing to do with policy. The real shortage is globally which is likely going to drive prices higher but I'm not sure what Biden or anyone can do about it unless OPEC increases production.

[wdmso]

And of course the right is trying to suggest these gas prices have never happened before ! So be afraid

That you Jim acting shocked that gas is at 3. 09 and every MAGAtard think Trump created oil independence. Biden agenda or oil had no where to go but up! Which is it? Biden hasn’t been in office a year seem you had higher expectations than I did . Iam just happy Trumps out. You know the actual danger to American democracy
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[spence]

Originally Posted by wdmso

That you Jim acting shocked that gas is at 3. 09 and every MAGAtard think Trump created oil independence. Biden agenda or oil had no where to go but up! Which is it? Biden hasn’t been in office a year seem you had higher expectations than I did . Iam just happy Trumps out. You know the actual danger to American democracy
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Jim likes to argue against himself at times. The *tard comment is unnecessary IMHO.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

And of course the right is trying to suggest these gas prices have never happened before ! So be afraid

That you Jim acting shocked that gas is at 3. 09 and every MAGAtard think Trump created oil independence. Biden agenda or oil had no where to go but up! Which is it? Biden hasn’t been in office a year seem you had higher expectations than I did . Iam just happy Trumps out. You know the actual danger to American democracy
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for the 4th time, why won’t you tell
us which republicans said that oil is at an all time high? can’t admit you
made it up?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

And of course the right is trying to suggest these gas prices have never happened before ! So be afraid

That you Jim acting shocked that gas is at 3. 09 and every MAGAtard think Trump created oil independence. Biden agenda or oil had no where to go but up! Which is it? Biden hasn’t been in office a year seem you had higher expectations than I did . Iam just happy Trumps out. You know the actual danger to American democracy
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i am not shocked where oil prices are, i bet big on that 18 months ago. anyone with a brain saw that coming. thanks in particular to biden, it’ll hit $100 soon enough.

“biden agenda or oil had no where to go but up which is it”?

is your brain so small, that you can’t understand that two things can be true at the same time?

oil had nowhere to go but up.

and biden’s reducing american production decreases supply, which increases price. if you read less marxist union pamphlets, and a single economics text, you’d understand the relationship between supply and price. supply goes down, price goes up. i’m very very sorry if that law of economics makes biden look bad in this case.

republicans didn’t invent the relationship between supply and price to make Biden look bad in this case…it just is a law of economics regardless of who’s in the white house.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

and biden’s reducing american production decreases supply, which increases price. if you read less marxist union pamphlets, and a single economics text, you’d understand the relationship between supply and price. supply goes down, price goes up. i’m very very sorry if that law of economics makes biden look bad in this case.

How exactly did Biden reduce production? I'll wait.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

How exactly did Biden reduce production? I'll wait.

Do you know how to read a chart? see that chart drop in 2020? look at the 5 year chart. big drop in 2020.

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-...oil-production

You asked, i answered.

How exactly did you conclude that the capital police officer was beaten to death, that Warren didn’t flip any foreclosures, and hat gum teachers don’t make the same as science teachers with the same seniority?

I’ll wait. I’ve been waiting.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Do you know how to read a chart? see that chart drop in 2020? look at the 5 year chart. big drop in 2020.

Biden wasn't POTUS in 2020. You OK Jim?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Biden wasn't POTUS in 2020. You OK Jim?

I bet brandon thinks he was

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Biden wasn't POTUS in 2020. You OK Jim?

and if you look at the line on the chart, you’ll see that after biden became president, production remained below where it was for
most of trumps presidency.

and before biden started approving permits and applications he out a hold on them .

and obviously part of the production drop was because of covid demand crashed, pushing prices down to the point where it wasn’t viable for US companies to drill.

If Biden is as pro-oil as trump
was, lcan you explain why he isn’t catching any heat from the left for that? why isn’t anyone calling him
out for breaking campaign promises.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

(1)
(2) the president of the US can have an impact on oil prices, and this one has. He's obviously anti fracking and not a fan of domestic production, which decreases the supply. Do you know what happens to something, when the supply decreases? It goes up. Additionally, perceived stability in the middle east impacts oil prices, and nobody thinks that the prospects of Middle East peace improved when Biden took his hand off the bible.




. Imagine if the press was actually fair.

Thanks Jim you did just what I said you would



But they will try blaming it on canceling keystone pipeline that hadn't been built or say something about oil leases even when have of the current leases are not being used

And they we all ignore with increased demand comes increase in prices

and of course attack the press a staple for conservatives

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Thanks Jim you did just what I said you would



But they will try blaming it on canceling keystone pipeline that hadn't been built or say something about oil leases even when have of the current leases are not being used

And they we all ignore with increased demand comes increase in prices

and of course attack the press a staple for conservatives

did i say anything about keystone?

have you seen the approval ratings of the press?? you deny the press is overwhelmingly liberal?

trying to have a serious conversation with you . it’s not easy.

anyway, biden helped oil go higher as i bet that he would and knew he would.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

did i say anything about keystone?


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he does this a lot...it's like he's got all these talking points he's trying to fit in somewhere

[scottw]

I don't think Brandon's elevator goes to the top anymore.....

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

he does this a lot...it's like he's got all these talking points he's trying to fit in somewhere

they all do it a lot. responding to something that’s not even close to anything i ever said.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

I don't think Brandon's elevator goes to the top anymore.....

nor does his approval rating.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

nor does his approval rating.
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hey, have you noticed that the Brandon protesters aren't spray painting property, looting, burning stuff and beating people up? seem mostly peaceful.....weird?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

hey, have you noticed that the Brandon protesters aren't spray painting property, looting, burning stuff and beating people up? seem mostly peaceful.....weird?

And I noticed that while the BLM and Antifa riots were portrayed as peaceful, parents who don't like CRT are now domestic terrorists. And people who don't get the vaccine are no better than mass murderers.

Loudon County VA is really something, ground zero for this war. They have a policy where a boy can use the girls bathroom if he feels like it. Predictably, a boy went in there, forced a girl into a stall, and violently raped her. Not talking about inappropriate touching here, this was a violent rape. At a subsequent BOE meeting, the superintendent said the rumored rapist "simply did not exist", and he said there was no record of an assault taking place. In other words, he called the victims father a liar for claiming she was raped. A kid was arrested in that case. Worse, the school just transferred the rapist to another high school, Where he assaulted another girl.

It's as if the liberals have decided to behave so badly, they want to force conservatives into revolting, so that all the media can then paint them all as terrorists. Which is kind of what happened here. When the superintendent called the dad of the victim (who is paying for those schools) a liar, he flipped out and was arrested. I can't helop but wonder if thats exactly what the liberals want to happen, on a large scale.

A girl was violently raped by a boy in a girls bathroom. The superintendent called the dad a liar and sent the kid to another school so he could prey upon other unsuspecting girls.

It just f-cking beats everything. So glad we bailed and put ours in catholic school. Just wish we hadn't waited so long.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

did i say anything about keystone? obviously anti fracking and not a fan of domestic production JIM keystone fall under that statement just saying
have you seen the approval ratings of the press?? you deny the press is overwhelmingly liberal? I am not moved by his poll numbers could care less

trying to have a serious conversation with you . it’s not easy.

anyway, biden helped oil go higher as i bet that he would and knew he would. you still cant explain how he did that shocking
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I love this one Jim

If Biden is as pro-oil as trump .. so in your imagination if Trump was re elected the price of oil and gas would have stayed low Because of Trump? Spoke like a tru trump cult member

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

I love this one Jim

If Biden is as pro-oil as trump .. so in your imagination if Trump was re elected the price of oil and gas would have stayed low Because of Trump? Spoke like a tru trump cult member

I said very explicitly, oil had nowhere to go but up. So add you to the list of libs here responding to things that I never came close to saying (which one only does, when one can't respond to what I actually said).

If Trump had been re elected, I'd bet everything I have that oil prices would have increased meaningfully. But they wouldn't be this high, and climbing this quickly, because Trump was a yuuge pro oil guy.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

If Trump had been re elected, I'd bet everything I have that oil prices would have increased meaningfully. But they wouldn't be this high, and climbing this quickly, because Trump was a yuuge pro oil guy.

A$$ talking at its finest. Would it be because of Trump's ability to control the weather or the global markets?