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[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Bryan, how about Bill Clinton having a private meeting with the AG on her jet, days before the announcement?

How about days after the announcement of no charges, team Hilary announces that they will consider keeping Lynch on as AG? That's not grossly inappropriate? That's not having naked contempt for everyone who isn't an insider? They didn't even try, for a nanosecond, to pretend that there wasn't a give-and-take.

You do seem thoughtful on these things. Are you going to tell us, that these facts that I have mentioned (and they are facts), don't stink? Really?

Unfortunately, I think that is politics. Would I love everything to be on the level, of course. I still feel strongly that the FBI wasn't politically motivated in their choice not to indict.

Having contempt for an insider is not a reason to support Trump.

She remains a highly flawed candidate, but given the alternatives I would have loved Biden to run, and could have given serious thought to Kasich, depending on his stances on the supreme court and who his VP would have been.

I was saying to a co-worker recently, Trump's biggest success is that he got folks like me to vote for Hillary...

[Fly Rod]

even her doctor is corrupt, cleared her for very good health when she is a sick puppy....has fainted several times in the past....hope she not around the red button when she faints again and her head hits button on her way to the floor....KA BOOM!!!....

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

Unfortunately, I think that is politics. Would I love everything to be on the level, of course. I still feel strongly that the FBI wasn't politically motivated in their choice not to indict.

Having contempt for an insider is not a reason to support Trump.

She remains a highly flawed candidate, but given the alternatives I would have loved Biden to run, and could have given serious thought to Kasich, depending on his stances on the supreme court and who his VP would have been.

I was saying to a co-worker recently, Trump's biggest success is that he got folks like me to vote for Hillary...

"Unfortunately, I think that is politics. Would I love everything to be on the level, of course. I still feel strongly that the FBI wasn't politically motivated in their choice not to indict. "

In your first sentence, you say that's how the political machine works. In your third sentence, you say you don't think it was political. Which is it?


"Having contempt for an insider is not a reason to support Trump. "

How about having contempt for someone who (1) goes on and on about how unfair the system is because it benefits political insiders, and (2) milks that system to amass a personal fortune, and to allow herself to break the rules when convenient?

Or having contempt for someone whose slogan is "stronger together", yet she says that 50% of the people who disagree with her, are deplorable? After having said that, I'm supposed to believe that she gives a rat's azz about my concerns?

"She remains a highly flawed candidate"

That's about as fair as I have ever heard a Democrat be. Obviously, Trump is also seriously flawed as a candidate, and even more so, as a human being

I hear a lot of Hilary supporters say they'd have voted for Kasich. Sorry, I don't buy it. Those two don't agree on anything. You'd vote for a pro-life, tax-cutting, union-buster if he was running? But since he's not, you're voting for Hilary? Come on!

For that to be true, you'd be saying that all you care about is the personality of the candidate, that you pay no attention whatsoever to their stance on the issues.

The GOP ran likeable, middle-of-the-road, milk-toast candidates in 08 and 12, and not many registered Democrats voted for them.

Both Hilary and Trump are despicable, morally bankrupt, dishonest scumbags. I truly believe that. What a choice. But his policy stances (at least according to what he is currently saying) are way more consistent with my values, and his choice of VP seems to confirm that.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I hear a lot of Hilary supporters say they'd have voted for Kasich. Sorry, I don't buy it. Those two don't agree on anything. You'd vote for a pro-life, tax-cutting, union-buster if he was running? But since he's not, you're voting for Hilary? Come on!

For that to be true, you'd be saying that all you care about is the personality of the candidate, that you pay no attention whatsoever to their stance on the issues.

Both Hilary and Trump are despicable, morally bankrupt, dishonest scumbags. I truly believe that. What a choice. But his policy stances (at least according to what he is currently saying) are way more consistent with my values, and his choice of VP seems to confirm that.

I would have voted for Kasich as a successful governor, with strong budget experience and a reasonable stance on climate change. I would have disagreed with him on some issues for sure. And yes, some of the personality is relevant.

Trumps VP pick was done ONLY to sway folks like you Jim. Period. Same with his supreme court list. Trump is a trickle down, cut and spend republican hidden behind a lot of bull#^&#^&#^&#^& and rhetoric. But don't worry, he has a plan.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

I would have voted for Kasich as a successful governor, with strong budget experience and a reasonable stance on climate change. I would have disagreed with him on some issues for sure. And yes, some of the personality is relevant.

Trumps VP pick was done ONLY to sway folks like you Jim. Period. Same with his supreme court list. Trump is a trickle down, cut and spend republican hidden behind a lot of bull#^&#^&#^&#^& and rhetoric. But don't worry, he has a plan.

"Trumps VP pick was done ONLY to sway folks like you Jim. Period."

Agreed. And that was a very wise move, because his personal conservative bona fides are in doubt, to say the least. He needed to pick someone just like Pence.

"Trump is a trickle down, cut and spend republican hidden behind a lot of bull#^&#^&#^&#^& and rhetoric."

He's also a jerk.

Hilary is a tax-and-spend liberal, who wouldn't recognize a personal ethic or moral if it jumped in her face. Her husband kicked off unbelievable economic growth by doing the same things that the Tea Party endorses (cutting spending, cutting taxes, welfare reform), yet she says those policies only benefit the rich. She SAW the impact of those policies, she KNOWS that most people benefitted, but she can't be honest enough to admit it.

She is also one of the very few liberals on record as supporting partial birth abortion. If she can't get something right that's that morally obvious, why should we trust her with stuff that's genuinely complicated. That's not just wrong, it's almost satanic.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

I would have voted for Kasich as a successful governor,

So you concede that the best prescription for a sick economy, is a large dose of conservative economic principles? Because that's exactly what Kasich did, and you concede he has been a successful governor.

Yet you are voting for someone whose economic strategy is the exact opposite of what you say made Kasich a successful governor.

Doesn't make sense. You are voting for someone who will do the exact opposite to the country, of what Kasich did in Ohio, even though you say he was a success in Ohio.

[Slipknot]

I don't tweet or read tweets

you all know the facts, some of you just choose to ignore or interpret them your own ways or excuse the countless lies.

Our freedoms are being stripped right before your eyes people, it's time to elect some candidates who will stand up for what made this country what it is.
Tomorrow we lose more freedom, it's sad if this is not blocked

https://www.washingtonpost.com/busin...799_print.html

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

So you concede that the best prescription for a sick economy, is a large dose of conservative economic principles? Because that's exactly what Kasich did, and you concede he has been a successful governor.

Yet you are voting for someone whose economic strategy is the exact opposite of what you say made Kasich a successful governor.

Doesn't make sense. You are voting for someone who will do the exact opposite to the country, of what Kasich did in Ohio, even though you say he was a success in Ohio.

What I said was between Kasich and Hillary I would have a tough choice. Not so much with Trump.

Kasich has cut income taxes and raised sales tax and I think on cigarettes as well, at least that is what I recall I had read about him before. Trump's plan has income taxes for the rich followed by wishing and praying for growth and repatriated money. Oh, and a huge increase in military spending...

When have we seen tax cuts and big increases in military sending again...?

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

When have we seen tax cuts and big increases in military sending again...?

Reagan and the following economic boom. And even Bush II which worked very well until the unrelated bank failures made everything else irrelevent.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Reagan and the following economic boom. And even Bush II which worked very well until the unrelated bank failures made everything else irrelevent.

Now don't go bringing inconvenient facts into this.