Trump's 'dirty war' on media

[zimmy]

The "suggested" part is from the article. This isn't about suggestion. 51% of Republicans polled said "the media is the enemy of the people." No surprise to me. This is a dangerous time in our country.
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[JohnR]

Originally Posted by zimmy

The "suggested" part is from the article. This isn't about suggestion. 51% of Republicans polled said "the media is the enemy of the people." No surprise to me. This is a dangerous time in our country.
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This is, when any President attempts to squash the Press, a problem.

It was a problem when Obama did it (cough AP, cough) and it has been a problem with near every president since the inception of the country (this is not new).

I do not support Trumps actions on the press, nor do I support the Press's actions WRT balanced and fact based news.

Too bad the Newsies claim themselves the victim - they have almost as much blame to take, almost.

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by JohnR

It was a problem when Obama did it (cough AP, cough) and it has been a problem with near every president since the inception of the country (this is not new).

Subpoenas related to terrorism vs repeated public statements by the commander in chief that the press is the enemy of the people. Obama Justice department also recognized the importance of the media and clarified the procedure for obtaining information with sensitivity to the press. Tough to draw a parallel.
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[JohnR]

Originally Posted by zimmy

Subpoenas related to terrorism vs repeated public statements by the commander in chief that the press is the enemy of the people. Obama Justice department also recognized the importance of the media and clarified the procedure for obtaining information with sensitivity to the press. Tough to draw a parallel.
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Well, I guess you are right. All those times O called out Fox News was fair because they are Terrorists ; )

BTW -FOX also makes my point on bias - there is too much bias, not enough truth.

Now where is that Full-Semiautomatic Cake Baker

[scottw]

Originally Posted by JohnR

BTW -FOX also makes my point on bias - there is too much bias, not enough truth.

the left created FOX just as they created Trump..

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by JohnR

BTW -FOX also makes my point on bias - there is too much bias, not enough truth.


:

Seem Trump has you convinced ..

Bias doesn't change truth ...that the lie of the Fake media mantra seems only conservatives think this way

https://www.bbc.com/ideas/videos/the...-news/p06dn741

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Your logic implies that obama’s Performance was on an equal trajectory as Trumps. I never complained that much about obama because there wasn’t much to complain about.
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There was plenty to complain about, just like there is with this guy.

Originally Posted by wdmso

Seem Trump has you convinced ..

Bias doesn't change truth ...that the lie of the Fake media mantra seems only conservatives think this way

https://www.bbc.com/ideas/videos/the...-news/p06dn741

No Wayne. People that are objective enough to go beyond the superficial level of events understand that there is usually more to the story.

Sometimes Fox is more honest than CNN or MSBNC, sometimes they are not. Their generic reporting is often better than CNNs. Their opinion stuff tends to be CNN level bias but going the other way. If you are unable to see the Spin from both sides than you are unable to be objective. And because you are new here, the News Bias has been a topic here for well over a decade.

I have a challenge for you Wayne. I want you to tell me in your own words, your personal opinion (without links to external sources) how Bias does not change the truth. How can bias be applied but not change the underlying truth?

[spence]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Sometimes Fox is more honest than CNN or MSBNC, sometimes they are not. Their generic reporting is often better than CNNs. Their opinion stuff tends to be CNN level bias but going the other way. If you are unable to see the Spin from both sides than you are unable to be objective. And because you are new here, the News Bias has been a topic here for well over a decade.

I think people mix selective reporting and quality of reporting. Sure CNN and MSNBC select to emphasize stories that appeal to a left leaning viewer profile, but with a few exceptions their opinions typically don't get caught up in conspiracies or push information that's obviously or most likely not accurate.

Fox's news division is decent on quality though certainly still selective to a right leaning audience. But their opinion side is so entrenched in pushing conspiracies there's really nothing else in the mainstream media like it. Sean Hannity is not the inverse mirror of Rachel Maddow...

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by JohnR

I have a challenge for you Wayne. I want you to tell me in your own words, your personal opinion (without links to external sources) how Bias does not change the truth. How can bias be applied but not change the underlying truth?

How can you challenge me on how Bias does not change the truth. ? your the one who thinks it changes Truth its your case to prove ..



BIAS CANT CHANGE WHAT COLOR THE SKY IS OR HOW GRAVITY WORKS ...or the words spoken or written by Trump. ITS THAT SIMPLE

Bias presents alternative facts or attacks facts presented based solely on appearance, social back ground or party affiliation.... but to say only Main stream media does it , is a bias statement its self .. so what is non main stream media whats the new standard for the opposite of main stream ?

and most op eds are Bias reguardless of the source .. they are not News ?

[spence]

Originally Posted by JohnR

This is, when any President attempts to squash the Press, a problem.

It was a problem when Obama did it (cough AP, cough) and it has been a problem with near every president since the inception of the country (this is not new).

While the AP case had issues I don't think there was any motivation to squash the press, it was just overly aggressive investigation.

Aside from a few quips against FOXNews I don't remember Obama doing anything to undermine a free press.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by spence

While the AP case had issues I don't think there was any motivation to squash the press, it was just overly aggressive investigation.

Aside from a few quips against FOXNews I don't remember Obama doing anything to undermine a free press.

Don’t you know he was just hatin’ on them?
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