So, mass shootings only happen in the USA?

[JohnR]

Says our dear leader, in Paris

[buckman]

I heard this today and my thought was ... is he mentally ok ? It's really becoming surreal .
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[tysdad115]

And the sheep line up to cherish the lies that spew from him.
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[Nebe]

This hippy art phag agrees. He's out of his mind
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[spence]

Just doesn't happen may be a stretch, but it's not a huge one. Gun deaths in the USA per capita are dramatically higher than other Western nations. Mass shootings as well are extremely rare...some try to wash this away given our higher population, but that doesn't factor in landmass or easy availability of firearms.

I believe they think the Paris shooters had to buy disabled weapons in Eastern Europe, repair them to make functional and smuggle through Belgium into France. That's a heck of a lot of work for a handful of guns.

[Raven]

he smiles to hide the melt down

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Says our dear leader, in Paris

His stupidity knows no bounds, none. The day before the Paris attacks, he said ISIS was contained, and he also bragged about increased security at foreign airports. As he made that comment, the wreckage of the downed Russian plane was still smoldering.

Then, stainding in Paris where the streets are still awash with blood, he made these comments.

By the way, if he wants to investigate why Americans do, in fact, have more shootings than many other places, he can start with the well organized community of Chicago, which s ground zero for gun violence.

Obama...always wrong, yet never in doubt.

[Slipknot]

"a stretch, but not a huge one"

It is a LOT more than a stretch, a flat out lie desperately trying to support his agenda, reaching for words it is clear he has no prompter to read from.

[BigFish]

Wasn't there a mass shooting in Paris a couple weeks ago? Something like 112 people dead? And one several months ago in Paris.....some magazine??? 12 people dead??? He is a jackass!!!!

[beamie]

Originally Posted by BigFish

Wasn't there a mass shooting in Paris a couple weeks ago? Something like 112 people dead? And one several months ago in Paris.....some magazine??? 12 people dead??? He is a jackass!!!!

Those don't count Larry. They were terrorist type shootings not the typical nut with gun shooting people. It's a different kind of dead. What an ass clown.
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[Nebe]

There was also a really bad one in Sweden a few years ago
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[Rockport24]

didn't something also happen in Australia not that long ago? the land of no guns!

oh and Spence - we get it, guns are evil and no one should have them but the police and military

[buckman]

Originally Posted by Rockport24

oh and Spence - we get it, guns are evil and no one should have them but the police and military

Just to be clear, the reason the police carry weapons is to protect themselves not to protect you . I'm a huge supporter of the police but that's the fact
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[Rockport24]

Originally Posted by buckman

Just to be clear, the reason the police carry weapons is to protect themselves not to protect you . I'm a huge supporter of the police but that's the fact
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well not really because its the Police's job to put themselves into harms way to protect the citizens, no?

[buckman]

Originally Posted by Rockport24

well not really because its the Police's job to put themselves into harms way to protect the citizens, no?

I bet 99% of the time a policeman pulls his weapon out of its holster it is to protect himself . But I get your point
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[JohnR]

Mass shootings happen most everywhere. North America, South America, Europe, Middle East, Africa, Asia - other than Antartica. Hmmm. Trend.

[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

Just to be clear, the reason the police carry weapons is to protect themselves not to protect you . I'm a huge supporter of the police but that's the fact
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Nice, I giant F U to first responders. I didn't think you had that in you to be honest.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Rockport24

oh and Spence - we get it, guns are evil and no one should have them but the police and military

I don't believe I've ever said that.

[Rockport24]

Originally Posted by spence

I don't believe I've ever said that.

Oh sorry my bad.. withdrawn form the record then!

[afterhours]

and people support this clown.

[The Dad Fisherman]

One going on in California right now....
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[Nebe]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

One going on in California right now....
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What is wrong with people these days ?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

What is wrong with people these days ?
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What's wrong, is highly correlated with the growth of secular liberalism (unless it's terrorism). we don't stress the importance of having empathy for others. Each generation is getting more detached, more narcississtic, less able to deal with hearing the word "no".

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

What's wrong, is highly correlated with the growth of secular liberalism (unless it's terrorism). we don't stress the importance of having empathy for others. Each generation is getting more detached, more narcississtic, less able to deal with hearing the word "no".

Really ? You really think a couple liberals are shooting people right now?

Do you think that the guy who shot up the planned parenthood was a liberal ?

They are religious nut jobs.. Terrorists are religious but jobs and we know for sure that the planned parenthood shooter was one as well. He said he could do what ever he wanted because he knew he "could be saved".

What a joke
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Really ? You really think a couple liberals are shooting people right now?

Do you think that the guy who shot up the planned parenthood was a liberal ?

They are religious nut jobs.. Terrorists are religious but jobs and we know for sure that the planned parenthood shooter was one as well. He said he could do what ever he wanted because he knew he "could be saved".

What a joke
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Nebe, I didn't, nor would I ever, say that all mass shooters are registered Democrats. Try to respond to what I am actually saying, try not to put gibberish words in my mouth.

As a society, we are clearly moving away from the traditional family values of, say, the 1950s, in favor of more "progressive" values. As a direct result, we see more infidelity, more divorce, more abortions, more broken families, more unsupervised kids, fewer people going to church, fewer parents signing their kids up for scouting, etc. One of the pillars of liberalism is "if it feels good, do it". As a society, there is less emphasis on what is decent, and more emphasis on what feels good for me.

On top of that, it's much harder, thanks to liberals, to commit the mentally ill until after they hurt someone.

Perfect example...when actress Ingrid Bergman had an affair with a married man (1950s?), people stopped going to her movies, and she eventually had to flee the country. One generation later, Jane Fonda straddles a Viet Cong anti-aircraft gun wrapped in our enemy's flag, and she comes home to an academy award. One generation after that, we have college crybabies who want free tuition and student debt wiped out. Gimme, gimme, gimme. Me, me, me.

When we turn our back on family values and instead celebrate what feels good in the next second, why would you ask "what's wrong with people nowadays"? Guess what Nebe? When you tell people to stop paying attention to the 10 commandments, ugly behavior will increase. Guess what? It also turns out that when you plant potatoes, you get potatoes.

[buckman]

I recommend you guys download the free police scanner app 5.0 . This is crazy stuff
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[spence]

Regardless this scenario is effed up.
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[Nebe]

Ah. Ok. I understand better now.
However one can have very solid family values in today's society. But let me ask... Is your wife wishing she was back in the 50's? A wife in the 50's was pretty much supposed to be a shadow and servant of her husband.
How about Mcarthyism ? God forbid someone finds out you are gay... And fughertaboutit if you are black.
It all looks good on paper but I can assure you that we are better off today as a society.
Holy smokes.. The ones shooting people here and "over there" are the folks like you, that don't like what this place has become! Imagine just for a second if everyone took a deep breath and accepted people for who they are.. You know... "Love thy neighbor".

Think on that.

Good night
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Ah. Ok. I understand better now.
However one can have very solid family values in today's society. But let me ask... Is your wife wishing she was back in the 50's? A wife in the 50's was pretty much supposed to be a shadow and servant of her husband.
How about Mcarthyism ? God forbid someone finds out you are gay... And fughertaboutit if you are black.
It all looks good on paper but I can assure you that we are better off today as a society.
Holy smokes.. The ones shooting people here and "over there" are the folks like you, that don't like what this place has become! Imagine just for a second if everyone took a deep breath and accepted people for who they are.. You know... "Love thy neighbor".

Think on that.

Good night
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"one can have very solid family values in today's society"

I didn't say no one has decent family values today, I said fewer of us do. When those values decline, and they are declining rapidly, bad things happen.

"Is your wife wishing she was back in the 50's?"

Hell, yes.

"A wife in the 50's was pretty much supposed to be a shadow and servant of her husband. "

Not in my family.

"How about Mcarthyism ?"

Every time period has its screw-ups. Today, we force Christians out of business who want to act according to their beliefs. Today cops are painted as racist assassins.

"I can assure you that we are better off today as a society. "

No, you can't. I would vehemently disagree. Didn't you say on this post, something to the effect of "what's wrong with people today?"

"The ones shooting people here and "over there" are the folks like you"

They're not anything like me.

"Imagine just for a second if everyone took a deep breath and accepted people for who they are.. You know... "Love thy neighbor".

I wish for that as well. But as I said, the sense of feeling obliged to others, is rapidly diminishing, and as today's kids spend half their waking hours on electronic devices, we will be even further disconnected from each other.

"Think on that"

I think about it a great deal. That's why I know I am correct.

"Good night"

You too!

Nebe, find someone, anyone, who has been a teacher for 30+ years, ask them how society is changing, if it's getting better or worse.

Our moral compass is so fu*ked up, it's hard to describe. A Democratic presidential candidate had to apologize for saying "all lives matter". That's just super.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Nebe

The ones shooting people here and "over there" are the folks like you, that don't like what this place has become!

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please provide an example of a shooting "over here" where the perpetrators did so because they claimed they "didn't like what this place has become"...I know it fits your narrative but I can't think of an instance...the media and left were desperately hoping these last two(and nearly every other) examples were perpetrated by right wing loons and are obviously deeply disappointed that it turned out not to be the case...

if "what we've become" is responsible for these shootings then it's more likely the fact that we've become a society where sex and violence are fed to our children at an early age teaching them that neither carry consequences and desensitizing them to the realities of life and constantly reinforced as they move along through life... drugs are issued and taken with abandon to help deal with any realities that may try to creep in...they lash out and the libs run around blaming guns

the ones shooting people over there want you to become them...it's pretty simple...