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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

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The left isn't going to let a trivial thing like a total lack of facts or evidence, interfere with their witch hunt.

Trump beat them, and humiliated them in the process. We now know that there's zero evidence that Trump and Russia "stole" the election, and rather, it's more likely Hilary lost because she never set foot in Wisconsin.

The craziness we see, is something. I mean it's really, really something.

Has anyone on the left said "well, we investigated for two years and found nothing, so it's time to put this behind us and move on?" Has a single democrat said that?

And to my original question, why would ANYONE in their right mind, watch CNN or MSNBC? Why do they have any remaining credibility?

I'm right leaning. But I cannot watch Sean Hannity, he's a joke, he's not reliable. The entire mainstream media, is a mirror image of him.

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I'm right leaning. But I cannot watch Sean Hannity, he's a joke, he's not reliable. The entire mainstream media, is a mirror image of him.

He's horrible.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by JohnR

He's horrible.

Agreed. But how is he any different, than everyone at CNN or MSNBC, or the NYT or the Washington Post? His bias is the opposite obviously, but he's not more biased then they are.

Paul Krugman said the US economy would never survive Trump, and he also said that 3% GDP growth is as realistic as the Tooth Fairy. And yet he still gets paid to speak, and Spence absorbs every syllable without question.

These people are given more freedom to make mistakes, than weathermen.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Has anyone on the left said "well, we investigated for two years and found nothing, so it's time to put this behind us and move on?" Has a single democrat said that?

Jim, the investigation resulted in 34 indictments including 5 people very close to Trump who have either plead guilty or been convicted and Stone who still goes to trial.

The investigation has spun off other investigations into campaign finance violations, campaign contribution fraud, Trump foundation fraud and on and on.

We now know that Trump and the campaign had numerous ties to Russia around business and political conflicts of interest and they all lied about them repeatedly to cover it up. It appears the report also lays out a case for obstruction of justice.

How is this finding nothing?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

How is this finding nothing?

"nothingburger"

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Jim, the investigation resulted in 34 indictments including 5 people very close to Trump who have either plead guilty or been convicted and Stone who still goes to trial.

The investigation has spun off other investigations into campaign finance violations, campaign contribution fraud, Trump foundation fraud and on and on.

We now know that Trump and the campaign had numerous ties to Russia around business and political conflicts of interest and they all lied about them repeatedly to cover it up. It appears the report also lays out a case for obstruction of justice.

How is this finding nothing?

it’s finding nothing, because it found no evidence that trump or his team, collided with russia to influence the election. which if you
listened to any of your fellow shrieking marxists, was the whole point. It was a flop.

We know the trump campaign had meetings with russians? donwe knownif that happens every presidential election cycle? is that sinister, or normal? who did your man crush meet with in the run up to his elections?
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

it’s finding nothing, because it found no evidence that trump or his team, collided with russia to influence the election. which if you
listened to any of your fellow shrieking marxists, was the whole point. It was a flop.

It was a counter intelligence investigation to look for any crimes around Russian interference. They found plenty of crimes, just didn't have strong enough evidence to pass a very high bar on the specific conspiracy charge.

We know the trump campaign had meetings with russians? donwe knownif that happens every presidential election cycle? is that sinister, or normal? who did your man crush meet with in the run up to his elections?
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Campaigning while you're secretly trying to sign a huge real estate deal with a foreign nation who's approval you require, repeatedly lying about it to the American people, and heaping praise on said nation putting you in a compromised position is highly unusual. So is sharing campaign data with the same nation and people you owe millions of dollars to. So is discussing US policy and lying about it...and on and on...

There's plenty of treachery and betrayal to go around.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

It was a counter intelligence investigation to look for any crimes around Russian interference.

we know that's complete BS..


trump campaign slogan next year should be

"COLLUDING TO WIN IN 2020"

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

There's plenty of treachery and betrayal to go around.

yes we need to investigate obama and hillary and everyone that they ever contacted

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

It was a counter intelligence investigation to look for any crimes around Russian interference. They found plenty of crimes, just didn't have strong enough evidence to pass a very high bar on the specific conspiracy charge.


Campaigning while you're secretly trying to sign a huge real estate deal with a foreign nation who's approval you require, repeatedly lying about it to the American people, and heaping praise on said nation putting you in a compromised position is highly unusual. So is sharing campaign data with the same nation and people you owe millions of dollars to. So is discussing US policy and lying about it...and on and on...

There's plenty of treachery and betrayal to go around.

"It was a counter intelligence investigation to look for any crimes around Russian interference. "

I see! So it wasn't about Trump? No?

"Campaigning while you're secretly trying to sign a huge real estate deal with a foreign nation who's approval you require, repeatedly lying about it to the American people, and heaping praise on said nation putting you in a compromised position is highly unusual"

It is unusual. It's not indicative of a high ethical standard. But unfortunately, it ain't an impeachable offense. "Because I hate his guts", is not grounds for impeachment.

You really are avoiding commenting on the media's accuracy regarding all things Trump, aren't you?

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I see! So it wasn't about Trump? No?

There certainly was concern the campaign was coordinating with foreign actors.

It is unusual. It's not indicative of a high ethical standard. But unfortunately, it ain't an impeachable offense. "Because I hate his guts", is not grounds for impeachment.

You should read this...

https://www.politico.com/magazine/st...framers-222752

You really are avoiding commenting on the media's accuracy regarding all things Trump, aren't you?

The media gets whipped up from time to time but I think their accuracy on Trump has been pretty good and really help highlight Trump's chronic dishonesty and corrupt nature.

[The Dad Fisherman]

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Originally Posted by spence

I’m not sure how by any rational evaluation you can consider Obama a narcissist.
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Originally Posted by scottw

funniest thing ever written here....

Originally Posted by spence

Hold My Beer

Originally Posted by spence

The media gets whipped up from time to time but I think their accuracy on Trump has been pretty good and really help highlight Trump's chronic dishonesty and corrupt nature.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Jim, the investigation resulted in 34 indictments including 5 people very close to Trump who have either plead guilty or been convicted and Stone who still goes to trial.

The investigation has spun off other investigations into campaign finance violations, campaign contribution fraud, Trump foundation fraud and on and on.

We now know that Trump and the campaign had numerous ties to Russia around business and political conflicts of interest and they all lied about them repeatedly to cover it up. It appears the report also lays out a case for obstruction of justice.

How is this finding nothing?

and the people
close to trump, we’re indicted for things they did after the investigation started ( lying, not cooperating), not for things they did before the investigation started. thats my understanding, is that wrong? that’s what dershowitz is saying.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

and the people
close to trump, we’re indicted for things they did after the investigation started ( lying, not cooperating), not for things they did before the investigation started. thats my understanding, is that wrong? that’s what dershowitz is saying.
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This is really irrelevant. They bring the indictment against the charges they have the most confidence in.

When was the last time you lied about something you didn't do?

[scottw]

ooooh...and when was the last time you didn't lie about something you did do?


it's fun seeing spence so desperate

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by spence

This is really irrelevant. They bring the indictment against the charges they have the most confidence in.

When was the last time you lied about something you didn't do?

Don’t forget to add that you still think Kavanaugh raped the dingbat. Yes,you sound that desperate.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Don’t forget to add that you still think Kavanaugh raped the dingbat. Yes,you sound that desperate.
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correct. but it’s ok that Sanders and Gillibrand didn’t act as if they believed claims of sexual harassment in their staffs.

When the accused is a republican, THEN we have to believe all women. The VA lieutenant governor is a democrat, so we can take his word for it when he says he didn’t do it, HE is innocent until proven guilty.
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