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Old 06-18-2018, 08:49 PM   #121
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Who are you referring to and why do you say that?
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Old 06-18-2018, 09:03 PM   #122
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"If with our current system we have 75% recidivism how does that stop anything for more than a few years."

How many people can a bad person hurt in "a few years"? A lot. You haven't given this much thought. Put down the Kool Aid for ten seconds, and think.

"Do you think all criminals are inherently evil?"

No. Some are unlucky.
Read this, I’m not suggesting no prisons
http://time.com/4596081/incarceration-report/
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Old 06-18-2018, 09:13 PM   #123
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Who are you referring to and why do you say that?
Stephan Molyneux
Are you a disciple?
Do you believe that most Mexicans abuse their children and are basically retarded?
He reminds me of an #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& I worked with once. He told us about how he was a Promisekeeper and only ate healthy food.
I was kind of impressed till I happened to stop at a convenience store where he was at the register with a couple of porn mags and a handful of candy bars.
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Old 06-19-2018, 04:22 AM   #124
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If with our current system we have 75% recidivism how does that stop anything

I think we need far fewer prisons


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shouldn't you ask the recidivists?

if the US has 655 people incarcerated per 100,000 and 75% are recidivists...the other 99,345 are some how navigating life without incarceration for the most part, even poor and minorities....I guess reducing the number of prisons and the ability to incarcerate would be a great way to reduce the number of incarcerated and get to your magic number of acceptable incarcerations despite the actual crime being committed and "recitivated"....

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Old 06-19-2018, 07:35 AM   #125
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Read this, I’m not suggesting no prisons
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shouldn't you ask the recidivists?

if the US has 655 people incarcerated per 100,000 and 75% are recidivists...the other 99,345 are some how navigating life without incarceration for the most part, even poor and minorities....I guess reducing the number of prisons and the ability to incarcerate would be a great way to reduce the number of incarcerated and get to your magic number of acceptable incarcerations despite the actual crime being committed and "recitivated"....

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It all depends on what you think is a worthwhile investment, just throwing money away to warehouse non dangerous people is a waste in my view.
Maybe you don't know what it means
Definition of recidivism
: a tendency to relapse into a previous condition or mode of behavior; especially : relapse into criminal behavior

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Old 06-19-2018, 03:41 PM   #126
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Stephan Molyneux
Are you a disciple?

No. I am no ones disciple. I think for myself. Do you think in terms of being a disciple? Are you someone's disciple?

There are a lot of videos on the net that discredit the medias use of these children in order to demonize Trump. Molyneux is usually more comprehensive yet compact in his approach.


Do you believe that most Mexicans abuse their children . . .?

He didn't say that. He did what you seem to like doing. He cited several statistics and sourced them . . . as in 2012 five out of 10 children in Mexico suffered some form of violence . . . in 2013 seven out of 10 did. In 2014 sexual violence against minors rose 73% from 2013 in Mexico. Mexico ranks first in rates of physical violence and sexual abuse and homicide of children under 14. Mexico ranks second in money generated by sex trafficking with minors. It ranks second to Thailand in child pornography. And the video claims that these abuses lead to patterns of behavior later in life such as gangs and inherited behavior toward children. He mentions the trip to the US being controlled by Mexican cartels where girls are raped along the way.


No, he doesn't say that most Mexicans abuse their children. He says that "on average" (all the miserable statistics) Mexicans are terrible to their children.


and are basically retarded?
No, he says the average IQ in Mexico is in the high 80's. That is a documented statistic, not his opinion.


He reminds me of an #^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^&#^& I worked with once. He told us about how he was a Promisekeeper and only ate healthy food.
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Molyneux has not been found, to my knowledge, to be a hypocrite. He is a high IQ type that tends to annoy some people. But I haven't found any credible refutation of things that I heard him say.

And he said a lot of things in the video. He also summarized the Lowry article that Scottw posted and no one responded to. His point being that the left is hyping up false rage in order to make Trump look evil or something.

I was hoping you might discuss that. But my hope was tenuous. I mostly figured you would do what you did. As with the Lowry article, in general, crickets were provoked. But you did manage to employ the time tested cheap trick of trying to kill the messenger with false accusations rather than discussing the message.

Well done.
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