Disgusting use of PUBLIC funds

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

From what I heard this trip has been scheuled for some time. Would seem quite transparent to cancel your plans at the last second just for the appearance of it all.

-spence

I'll take "seeming transparency" over gluttonous hypocricy any time ...just for the appearance of it all....

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

I'll take "seeming transparency" over gluttonous hypocricy any time ...just for the appearance of it all....

If that's the case perhaps you should take your beef up with the US Secret Service. I can forward your info along if you'd like.

-spence

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

If that's the case perhaps you should take your beef up with the US Secret Service. I can forward your info along if you'd like.

-spence

are you wearing a brown shirt right now?

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

are you wearing a brown shirt right now?

No green.

-spence

[UserRemoved1]

Originally Posted by spence

From what I heard this trip has been scheuled for some time. Would seem quite transparent to cancel your plans at the last second just for the appearance of it all.

-spence

[PaulS]

Ronda is beautiful, hope they at least hiked the gorge.

Another case of the right shooting themselves in the foot. More death threats to this pres. than any other and then they cry like babies when the secret service spends $ to protect the family.

Did Laura B ever take any vac. that needed secret service protection?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Ronda is beautiful, hope they at least hiked the gorge.

Another case of the rightnot just the right on this, particularly the foreign press(former fawners), criticism has been from all corners regarding the propensity for lavishness for these people balanced against their rhetoric shooting themselves in the foot. More death threats to this pres than any other prove it. and then they cry like babies when the secret service spends $ to protect the family.

Did Laura B ever take any vac. that needed secret service protection?

as usual, you completely miss the point...

[PaulS]

Then what was the point of the first post?

Look it up yourselves, it has even been discussed here.

And calling a woman a douchebag is a new low for this site.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Then what was the point of the first post?

Look it up yourselves, it has even been discussed here.

And calling a woman a douchebag is a new low for this site.

OK...here it is...I know that reading isn't your thing but you should try it before you taunt others..noone has suggested that the First Lady should not get Secret Service protection as you suggest, the question is about the extravagant travel, the expense of dragging the SS protection along and the appearance of it all at a time when their rhetoric has been to trash extravagant living....

Michelle Obama today faced a fresh wave of attacks over her lavish break in Spain with 40 friends, which could easily cost U.S. taxpayers a staggering £50,000 a day.
The First Lady has been lambasted for her extravagance at a time when the economy is still .struggling

[PaulS]

She had 2 friends and I think 4 of their kids (who all travelled on commercial flights) not 40. I read that they all paid their own way as did she (including food, room and transportation). There were some of her aides but they were taken along b/c she will make a courtesy call to the king and queen. The gov. pays for security and the secret service decides what is needed. Look at Salty's 13th post (I believe) he was ranting about the security detail.

I never said I don't read, I said I don't read obvious right/left wing articles.

Maybe the posts swerved from the original post. I almoststopped reading when someone complained how much vac. Pres. Obama took in his first year. I laughed at the hypocrisy and stopped reading.

If you ever go to the south of Spain, visit Ronda and Malaga - like Michelle. Both very nice.

[scottw]

[QUOTE=PaulS;786746]


I almost stopped reading when someone complained how much vac. Pres. Obama took in his first year. I laughed at the hypocrisy and stopped reading.

QUOTE]

so you percieve hypocricy in the complaint about Obama's vacation time and laugh..... but you see no hypocricy in the Obama's vacation time......interesting....

Morning Sentinel

The president was the first to walk onto the tarmac, dressed casually in a pale blue Oxford shirt and khakis. A few minutes later, the first lady, dressed in black capris, a tank-top and sandals, walked onto the runway. Shortly afterward, Malia and Sasha joined their parents.

Baldacci and his wife, Karen, presented the family with gift bags full of Maine-made goodies, including baskets made by the Passamaquoddy Tribe, popcorn from Little Lad’s Bakery in East Corinth, iconic L.L. Bean bags, University of Maine ice hockey hats, and an assortment of other Maine foods and books.

Karen Baldacci said the bags for Malia and Sasha contained one loon toy and one chickadee toy that sound their natural calls.

Arriving in a small jet before the Obamas was the first dog, Bo, a Portuguese water dog given as a present by the late U.S. Sen Ted Kennedy, D-Mass.; and the president’s personal aide Reggie Love, who chatted with Baldacci.

Bo has quite a "CARBON PAWPRINT"

I supposed a dedicated Obamoron would suggest that Bo is actually engaged in "shared sacrafice" because he was willing to "share" his private jet with the Presidential Dog Walker

[PaulS]

There you go again showing your classlessness. That didn't take long.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

There you go again showing your classlessness. That didn't take long.

I'll take that to mean that you've again lost the ability to provide a coherent thought...you can't provide evidence for the hypocricy that you percieve but simply assume it based on your ideaology...or something....and laugh..... and can't see the obvious hypocricy that is staring you in the face....just admit it ...you are an Obamoron

[PaulS]

No, you can take it to mean that I think your classless.

[PaulS]

oh, one thing on my ideaology, I voted for both Bush's the first time around (huge mistake).

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

No, you can take it to mean that I think your classless.

your sentences are getting shorter....not much left in the barrel aside from an occasional insult ........typical

you do realize that your votes for Bush were irrelevant so I wouldn't be too hard on yourself...

oh...Paul...I'm curious how you went from supporting conservatives to supporting a communist in such a relatively short time?

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by scottw

your sentences are getting shorter....not much left in the barrel aside from an occasional insult ........typical

Your like talking to the whiny little kid who has no friends, sometimes you talk to him, others times you don't bother . You just let him spoat off.

Actually, I never insulted anyone on this forum until they spewed insults first Bet you can't make that claim. I would also bet that when posts start to go south, your insults are a high % of the reason.

[RIROCKHOUND]

PaulS...
the ignore button is your friend, trust me!

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Your like talking to the whiny little kid who has no friends, sometimes you talk to him, others times you don't bother . You just let him spoat off.

Actually, I never insulted anyone on this forum until they spewed insults first Bet you can't make that claim. I would also bet that when posts start to go south, your insults are a high % of the reason.

"spout"

the thread goes south when the Obamoron has exhausted himself trying to defend the indefensible with regard to this president and fails to explain why criticizong his actions are "hypocritical" but his clearly hypocritical actions are not.......the list with this president is getting long and we're not two years in...you can only spin for so long before you get dizzy and fall down Paul...you should wear a helmet...

when I think of "classy", I think of the photo of Obama with his feet up on the hallowed Resolute desk of the Oval Office...now that's "CLASSY"...or classless...as it were...

[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

"spout"

the thread goes south when the Obamoron has exhausted himself trying to defend the indefensible with regard to this president and fails to explain why criticizong his actions are "hypocritical" but his clearly hypocritical actions are not.......the list with this president is getting long and we're not two years in...you can only spin for so long before you get dizzy and fall down Paul...you should wear a helmet...

when I think of "classy", I think of the photo of Obama with his feet up on the hallowed Resolute desk of the Oval Office...now that's "CLASSY"...or classless...as it were...

Between your rampant mis-information, daily non sequitur rants, childish name calling and abuse of cut and paste...I'm not sure you're standing on firm ground to accuse anyone of failing to defend themselves.

You could be useful in describing the concept of entropy to a lay person though. Some of the Ask Spence questions are getting into physics and I might need a simplistic example that everyone can relate to

-spence

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Between your rampant mis-information , daily non sequitur rants, childish name calling and abuse of cut and paste...I'm not sure you're standing on firm ground to accuse anyone of failing to defend themselves.

You could be useful in describing the concept of entropy to a lay person though. Some of the Ask Spence questions are getting into physics and I might need a simplistic example that everyone can relate to

-spence

oh...please...you prostitute yourself here each day for all things Obama making some of the most outrageous statements and turning facts on their head, claiming that most experts agree with you...gimme a break....Obamoron is a perfectly apt title for one who mindelessly defends all things Obama with no regard to facts and it's hardly offensive...we've had much worse...

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by scottw

the thread goes south when

you started calling people morons - simple as that. You ruined another thread with your whining.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by PaulS

you started calling people morons - simple as that. You ruined another thread with your whining.

I thought this thread went south when the queen was called a "douchebag " in the initial post

[UserRemoved1]

This thread is awesome

what a train wreck

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

you started calling people morons - simple as that. You ruined another thread with your whining.

"Obamorons"....it's a special type of moron...it was a general term when I first used it to muse at what a mindless defender of Obama might say to explain the "dog flying solo in the jet phenomon"....you jumped ugly and proceeded to whine about name calling and classilessness(sp?) and crap like that...boooohoooo

....not an Obamoron and perfectly stated...

The Obama presidency increasingly resembles a modern-day Ancien Régime: extravagant and out of touch with the American people

By Nile Gardiner World Last updated: August 7th, 2010

What the great French historian Alexis de Tocqueville would make of today’s Obama administration were he alive today is anyone’s guess. But I would wager that the author of L’Ancien Régime and Democracy in America would be less than impressed with the extravagance and arrogance on display among the White House elites that rule America as though they had been handed some divine right to govern with impunity.

It is the kind of impunity that has been highlighted on the world stage this week by Michelle Obama’s hugely costly trip to Spain, which has prompted a New York Post columnist Andrea Tantaros to dub the First Lady a contemporary Marie Antoinette. As The Telegraph reports, while the Obamas are covering their own vacation expenses such as accommodation, the trip may cost US taxpayers as much as $375,000 in terms of secret service security and flight costs on Air Force Two.

The timing of this lavish European vacation could not have come at a worse moment, when unemployment in America stands at 10 percent, and large numbers of Americans are fighting to survive financially in the wake of the global economic downturn. It sends a message of indifference, even contempt, for the millions of Americans who are struggling just to feed their families on a daily basis and pay the mortgage, while the size of the national debt balloons to Greek-style proportions.

While the liberal-dominated US mainstream media have largely ignored the story, it is all over the blogosphere and talk radio, and will undoubtedly add to the President’s free falling poll ratings. As much as the media establishment turn a blind eye to stories like this, which are major news in the international media, the American public is increasingly turning to alternative news sources, including the British press, which has a far less deferential approach towards the White House.

The First Lady’s ill-conceived trip to Marbella and the complete disregard for public opinion and concerns over excessive government spending is symbolic of a far wider problem with the Obama presidency – the overarching disdain for the principles of limited government, individual liberty and free enterprise that have built the United States over the course of nearly two and a half centuries into the most powerful and free nation on earth.

It is epitomised above all by the President’s relentless drive towards big government against the will of the American people, and the dramatic increases in government spending and borrowing, which threaten to leave the US hugely in debt for generations. It is also showcased by Barack Obama’s drive towards a socialised health care system, which, as I’ve noted before, is “a thinly disguised vanity project for a president who is committed to transforming the United States from the world’s most successful large-scale free enterprise economy, to a highly interventionist society with a massive role for centralized government.”

There is however a political revolution fast approaching Washington that is driven not by mob rule but by the power of ideas and principles, based upon the ideals of the Founding Fathers and the US Constitution. It is a distinctly conservative revolution that is sweeping America and is reflected in almost every poll ahead of this November’s mid-terms. It is based on a belief in individual liberty, limited government, and above all, political accountability from the ruling elites. The Obama administration’s mantra may well be “let them eat cake”, as it continues to gorge itself on taxpayers’ money, but it will be looking nervously over its shoulder as public unease mounts.

[striperman36]

Originally Posted by scottw

"Obamorons"....it's a special type of moron...it was a general term when I first used it to muse at what a mindless defender of Obama might say to explain the "dog flying solo in the jet phenomon"....you jumped ugly and proceeded to whine about name calling and classilessness(sp?) and crap like that...boooohoooo

....not an Obamoron and perfectly stated...

The Obama presidency increasingly resembles a modern-day Ancien Régime: extravagant and out of touch with the American people

By Nile Gardiner World Last updated: August 7th, 2010

What the great French historian Alexis de Tocqueville would make of today’s Obama administration were he alive today is anyone’s guess. But I would wager that the author of L’Ancien Régime and Democracy in America would be less than impressed with the extravagance and arrogance on display among the White House elites that rule America as though they had been handed some divine right to govern with impunity.

It is the kind of impunity that has been highlighted on the world stage this week by Michelle Obama’s hugely costly trip to Spain, which has prompted a New York Post columnist Andrea Tantaros to dub the First Lady a contemporary Marie Antoinette. As The Telegraph reports, while the Obamas are covering their own vacation expenses such as accommodation, the trip may cost US taxpayers as much as $375,000 in terms of secret service security and flight costs on Air Force Two.

The timing of this lavish European vacation could not have come at a worse moment, when unemployment in America stands at 10 percent, and large numbers of Americans are fighting to survive financially in the wake of the global economic downturn. It sends a message of indifference, even contempt, for the millions of Americans who are struggling just to feed their families on a daily basis and pay the mortgage, while the size of the national debt balloons to Greek-style proportions.

While the liberal-dominated US mainstream media have largely ignored the story, it is all over the blogosphere and talk radio, and will undoubtedly add to the President’s free falling poll ratings. As much as the media establishment turn a blind eye to stories like this, which are major news in the international media, the American public is increasingly turning to alternative news sources, including the British press, which has a far less deferential approach towards the White House.

The First Lady’s ill-conceived trip to Marbella and the complete disregard for public opinion and concerns over excessive government spending is symbolic of a far wider problem with the Obama presidency – the overarching disdain for the principles of limited government, individual liberty and free enterprise that have built the United States over the course of nearly two and a half centuries into the most powerful and free nation on earth.

It is epitomised above all by the President’s relentless drive towards big government against the will of the American people, and the dramatic increases in government spending and borrowing, which threaten to leave the US hugely in debt for generations. It is also showcased by Barack Obama’s drive towards a socialised health care system, which, as I’ve noted before, is “a thinly disguised vanity project for a president who is committed to transforming the United States from the world’s most successful large-scale free enterprise economy, to a highly interventionist society with a massive role for centralized government.”

There is however a political revolution fast approaching Washington that is driven not by mob rule but by the power of ideas and principles, based upon the ideals of the Founding Fathers and the US Constitution. It is a distinctly conservative revolution that is sweeping America and is reflected in almost every poll ahead of this November’s mid-terms. It is based on a belief in individual liberty, limited government, and above all, political accountability from the ruling elites. The Obama administration’s mantra may well be “let them eat cake”, as it continues to gorge itself on taxpayers’ money, but it will be looking nervously over its shoulder as public unease mounts.

NPR also mirrors this sentiment.
The First Lady?s Vacation From Empathy : NPR

totally out of touch.

[spence]

Originally Posted by striperman36

NPR also mirrors this sentiment.
The First Lady?s Vacation From Empathy : NPR

totally out of touch.

"Totally out of touch"??? You didn't really read it did you?

-spence

[striperman36]

Originally Posted by spence

"Totally out of touch"??? You didn't really read it did you?

-spence

The only way I can make you guys stop whining is to make sure you read it so you can try and nibble at me instead of beating your chest at each other for no good reason

[spence]

Originally Posted by striperman36

The only way I can make you guys stop whining is to make sure you read it so you can try and nibble at me instead of beating your chest at each other for no good reason

I've read a number of articles on this story, from all sides. This ones is pretty rational but really softballs the question...as in...might not have been the best idea politically...

What's interesting is that, as usual, most of the early "reporting" people read from the blogs was wrong. This story isn't that exciting, and only with a little Monday morning quarterbacking has any real impact.

-spence

[Swimmer]

Originally Posted by Nebe

did you see her short hairs sticking out of her bikini?@??@? talk about pubic relations...

Your joking right. All this money for the plane and no bikini wax??????????