breonna taylor tragedy

[Jim in CT]

the officers did not execute a no-knock warrant. even i thought they did, because everyone was saying it.

according to what the cops said, and corroborated by people
living in the apartment building, the cops yelled “police” first, then knocked. upon entering, taylor’s boyfriend ( a drug dealer for whom the warrant was granted) shot one of the cops. he admits he fired first.

tragedy? absolutely. Murder? not even close. not even close.

almost everything i heard about this case in the media was a lie. a politically convenient lie.

[Jim in CT]

cnn contributor, a black man with a PhD, says “black people cant go anywhere.”

not sure where he got his PhD from, or how he managed to survive.

a very sad time.

spread lies to keep blacks agitated, so they can be exploited and controlled. but republicans are the racists.
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[Pete F.]

Perhaps one night police will knock on your door then kick it in
As a law abiding citizen, would you hear them say police or be awakened by them busting down your door?
Just what would your reaction be to an unknown intruder kicking in your door?
You didn’t hear them say police, tough #^&#^&#^&#^&, you’re dead or committing a crime.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Perhaps one night police will knock on your door then kick it in
As a law abiding citizen, would you hear them say police or be awakened by them busting down your door?
Just what would your reaction be to an unknown intruder kicking in your door?
You didn’t hear them say police, tough #^&#^&#^&#^&, you’re dead or committing a crime.
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the announced themselves, entered lawfully, and were shot at.

tell us what i said, which is wrong.

a neighbor testified that they announced themselves. what are they supposed to do, send emails to drug dealers, asking them to turn themselves in?

i’m not a drug dealer. i don’t expect cops to bust down my door.

not every tragedy involves a crime. they were obviously allowed to return fire in that situation.

what should the cops have done, when after announcing themselves, one was shot, severing the artery in his leg?
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

the announced themselves, entered lawfully, and were shot at.

tell us what i said, which is wrong.

a neighbor testified that they announced themselves. what are they supposed to do, send emails to drug dealers, asking them to turn themselves in?
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If they did that at my house and I didn’t hear them, they’d be dead
And claiming it’s my responsibility
Welcome to the police state
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

If they did that at my house and I didn’t hear them, they’d be dead
And claiming it’s my responsibility
Welcome to the police state
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fine, you’d kill them all dirty harry.

you can’t answer a simple question here on this board, you’re too scared! tell me
more, Jason Bourne.

if they lawfully entered
my house, i didn’t hear them and fired, if they killed
me....i’d like to think my family is entitled to a huge settlement ( which her family received) but my death doesn’t mean there was a crime.

the guy who is too chicken to answer a question on his keyboard, is going to gun down rogue cops.

Mm-hmm.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

fine, you’d kill them all dirty harry.

you can’t answer a simple question here on this board, you’re too scared! tell me
more, Jason Bourne.

if they lawfully entered
my house, i didn’t hear them and fired, if they killed
me....i’d like to think my family is entitled to a huge settlement ( which her family received) but my death doesn’t mean there was a crime.

the guy who is too chicken to answer a question on his keyboard, is going to gun down rogue cops.

Mm-hmm.
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You’re pretty clueless about who I am and not much of a man.
But that’s right in line with your hero, Tweety
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[TheSpecialist]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

If they did that at my house and I didn’t hear them, they’d be dead
And claiming it’s my responsibility
Welcome to the police state
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The guy wasn't charged with shooting at the officers in this case though...

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by TheSpecialist

The guy wasn't charged with shooting at the officers in this case though...

yeah but that fact doesn’t serve his narrative, so he changed it.
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[Jim in CT]

reports of a cop shot during riots in louiseville. i bet everything i have, the shooter believes that it was a no knock warrant and that cops came in, guns blazing.

the entire democratic party, has adapted al sharptons playbook. chapter and verse. they don’t care about the blood on their hands.
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[Pete F.]

While you’re blatting like a victim about some possible wrong Cindy McCains endorsement of Biden is not just “another republican”.
Her late husband was BarackObama’s opponent.
Keep believing in the carnival clown, he’s barking


Can you envision Melania Trump publicly endorsing the democratic candidate in the next Presidential election?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

While you’re blatting like a victim about some possible wrong Cindy McCains endorsement of Biden is not just “another republican”.
Her late husband was BarackObama’s opponent.
Keep believing in the carnival clown, he’s barking


Can you envision Melania Trump publicly endorsing the democratic candidate in the next Presidential election?
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it’s a very meaningful
endorsement.

i’m not a victim. blacks are being victimized.

my question which you will
dodge. what evidence is there, that race had any role in this event.

you’re a pussy and a bore.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

it’s a very meaningful
endorsement.

i’m not a victim. blacks are being victimized.

my question which you will
dodge. what evidence is there, that race had any role in this event.

you’re a pussy and a bore.
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Say it to my face, anytime anyplace
Little man
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Say it to my face, anytime anyplace
Little man
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pete, you can’t answer a question i ask. maybe start there.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Say it to my face, anytime anyplace
Little man
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the guy who can’t bring himself to
answer a question, is suddenly a tough guy.
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[Jim in CT]

two cops now shot in louiseville, because the left pushed a narrative they knew was false.

we know it wasn’t a no knock warrant. we know they identified themselves. we know the guy in the apartment shot first.

we know all that. yet cnn and msnbc are saying she was killed, and the cops not charged with murder, because she was black.

“enemy of the people” isnt far off. two cops shot for absolutely no reason, other than the rioters were manipulated by the left. the worse things get before november, the better their chances of winning elections. who cares what the carnage is, in the wake of riots based on a liberal lie.

it’s satanic.
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[wdmso]

Wasn't charged with murder stating it was justified because the boyfriend fired 1st who isn't dead. But was charged with. wanton endangerment if they commit an act that shows "an extreme indifference to the value of human life". The lowest charge possible

The officers fired over 20 shots. Taylor was shot five times, according to her death certificate

Wow ok killing her but bad boy for shooting with out regard. Pathetic

Your a joke with your But I am a good catholic BS . And are the poster child of who and find police behaviors acceptable

I've said this before and il. Say it again or military has greater restraint than police in America





And those officer shot shouldn't have ever been in the situation they weren't shot because who they were they were shot because what the uniform represents which should not be ...

But what also shouldn't be is this obedience and unflinching support of police who make bad choices. But why expect anything less you cant even hold the POTUS to any standard

Jim your the only one pusinga false narrative.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

But what also shouldn't be is this obedience and unflinching support of police who make bad choices. :

nobody is is supporting cops that make bad choices, in nearly every one of these instance it's people, not the cops, that make/made the bad choices that led to their outcomes and that 's who would/should be held accountable, you keep ignoring that part and just reflexively blame the cops

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by scottw

nobody is is supporting cops that make bad choices, in nearly every one of these instance it's people, not the cops, that make/made the bad choices that led to their outcomes and that 's who would/should be held accountable, you keep ignoring that part and just reflexively blame the cops

Nobody is supporting cops that make bad choices.. yet you suggest

It Taylor's fault for. Being shot 5 times... ?

Your as bad a Jim defending cops who unloded 20 rounds in to a house killing the only person with out a gun or a criminal record .. then try to suggest your not supporting bad cops

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Nobody is supporting cops that make bad choices.. yet you suggest

It Taylor's fault for. Being shot 5 times... ?

Your as bad a Jim defending cops who unloded 20 rounds in to a house killing the only person with out a gun or a criminal record .. then try to suggest your not supporting bad cops

it’s not her fault. but just because someone dies in an accident, doesn’t mean someone else committed murder. do you know what an “accident” is?
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Nobody is supporting cops that make bad choices.. yet you suggest

It Taylor's fault for. Being shot 5 times... ?

Your as bad a Jim defending cops who unloded 20 rounds in to a house killing the only person with out a gun or a criminal record .. then try to suggest your not supporting bad cops

the police were knocking on her door that night because she'd spent years dating a violent drug dealing criminal....she made bad choices that ultimately led to this tragedy....if she had not dated a violent drug dealing criminal the police would have never been sent to her apartment...is that hard to understand?

George Floyd took a lethal dose of fentanyl that day and got in a car and headed into town and ended up fighting with police....

each of these cases are sad and unfortunate, particularly in Breonna's case.... but in each of these cases the "victims" did a lot of stuff, had a long history of behavior to get them where they ended up and I haven't seen any indication that police racism was somehow a factor...which is what all the screaming, rioting and destruction is about

[TheSpecialist]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Nobody is supporting cops that make bad choices.. yet you suggest

It Taylor's fault for. Being shot 5 times... ?

Your as bad a Jim defending cops who unloded 20 rounds in to a house killing the only person with out a gun or a criminal record .. then try to suggest your not supporting bad cops

The training dictates that you shoot until the threat is stopped..

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

the officers did not execute a no-knock warrant. even i thought they did, because everyone was saying it.

according to what the cops said, and corroborated by people
living in the apartment building, the cops yelled “police” first, then knocked. upon entering, taylor’s boyfriend ( a drug dealer for whom the warrant was granted) shot one of the cops. he admits he fired first.

tragedy? absolutely. Murder? not even close. not even close.

almost everything i heard about this case in the media was a lie. a politically convenient lie.

Please fact check yourself before posting Jim.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Please fact check yourself before posting Jim.
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tell me which fact i got wrong for once.
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[Jim in CT]

wdmso, yes the boyfriend fired first ( which may have been justified if he didn’t hear them announce themselves), and he’s not the one who died. the innocent woman did.

wayne, if the cops are being shot at and they return fire, do you think they should go to jail if they accidentally shoot and kill an innocent bystander by accident?

this is policework. sometimes it’s dangerous and chaotic. it’s not an exact science, and even olympic marksman, shooting in easy circumstances, miss sometimes.

it’s a tragedy. it’s not necessarily a crime, and obviously not murder.

please answer my question - should cops go to prison if they return fire but miss? do you really believe that?
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

wdmso, yes the boyfriend fired first ( which may have been justified if he didn’t hear them announce themselves), and he’s not the one who died. the innocent woman did.

wayne, if the cops are being shot at and they return fire, do you think they should go to jail if they accidentally shoot and kill an innocent bystander by accident?

this is policework. sometimes it’s dangerous and chaotic. it’s not an exact science, and even olympic marksman, shooting in easy circumstances, miss sometimes.

it’s a tragedy. it’s not necessarily a crime, and obviously not murder.

please answer my question - should cops go to prison if they return fire but miss? do you really believe that?
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Jim 20 rds fired indiscriminately and they killed a defenseless women you can't goto prision if you never make it to court . Its is a crime their no disputing that killing someone with your car is a crime it can be determined to be an accident

But 20 rounds randomly fired into an apartment is no accident or police Training

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Jim 20 rds fired indiscriminately and they killed a defenseless women you can't goto prision if you never make it to court . Its is a crime their no disputing that killing someone with your car is a crime it can be determined to be an accident

But 20 rounds randomly fired into an apartment is no accident or police Training

and they don’t go to court, unless they’re arrested for a crime.

why can’t you guys ever answer a question? what’s the crime?

is there any chance you junk she’s be dead, if the guy with her didn’t shoot a cop? he shot a cop. he may we’ll have not known they were cops ( which means he may not have committed a crime). but if you shout a cop, a hail of gunfire is coming back your way. that's how it works. you think they should
have shot the gun out of his hand in that moment?

how many rounds are cops allowed to fire back when one of them is shot and severs an artery in his leg? is the crime that the woman died? or how many rounds they fired?
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

and they don’t go to court, unless they’re arrested for a crime.

why can’t you guys ever answer a question? what’s the crime?

is there any chance you junk she’s be dead, if the guy with her didn’t shoot a cop? he shot a cop. he may we’ll have not known they were cops ( which means he may not have committed a crime). but if you shout a cop, a hail of gunfire is coming back your way. that's how it works. you think they should
have shot the gun out of his hand in that moment?

how many rounds are cops allowed to fire back when one of them is shot and severs an artery in his leg? is the crime that the woman died? or how many rounds they fired?
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Here’s a simple question for you. If putting 3 rounds into an adjacent apartment could get you 15 years why would putting 6 rounds into a living innocent person be completely overlooked?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Here’s a simple question for you. If putting 3 rounds into an adjacent apartment could get you 15 years why would putting 6 rounds into a living innocent person be completely overlooked?
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I’ll answer when you answer. which you apparently won’t, because you can’t without looking bonkers.

do you, spence, think it’s a criminal offense to return fire when shot at, and accidentally miss your target?

answer that question as i asked it, and i’ll happily answer yours.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Here’s a simple question for you. If putting 3 rounds into an adjacent apartment could get you 15 years why would putting 6 rounds into a living innocent person be completely overlooked?
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the cop that was charged was in the parking lot....the cops that were not charged were inside the building, one was shot both returned fire, they had cause to discharge their weapons....didn't you just tell Jim to do some research or fact check himself before posting?