Obama's IRS Targeted the Tea Party

[Jim in CT]

I thought Obama didn't see people as "red", or "blue", but simply as "Americans".

Obama's political mentor, Bill Ayers, used bombs to deal with people who dared to disagree with him. Obama uses the might of the federal government.

IRS knew Tea Party targeted in 2011 | Fox News

Sorry Spence, that I had to rely on (ha-ha, wait for it!) "Faux News!" Chortle, chortle!

[JohnR]

Hard to think this is Obama, directly. Surely one of the minions, but this is indicative of a major problem with politicizing the government.

The government we deserve. Frackwits.

[spence]

Do we know if this was even political?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Hard to think this is Obama, directly. Surely one of the minions, but this is indicative of a major problem with politicizing the government.

The government we deserve. Frackwits.

"Hard to think this is Obama, directly"

I'm sure you're correct.

But this is a man who has no use for those who disagree with him (the Republicans need to sit in the back of the bus, those who cling to guns and religion do so because they are bitter and racist, etc, etc), so it's not at all inconsistent with anything we know about him.

[Nebe]

Meh.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Do we know if this was even political?
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I noticed that you had no problem leaping to the conclusion that the Benghazi hearings were a nothing more than a political witch hunt. You seem awfully slective with the manner in which you apply these things...Why is that, do you suppose?

[Raven]

IRS is a dirty dealin , unfair ,cheating group
if there ever was one....

the tax code is a friggan Joke

[justplugit]

Another Witch Hunt, I can't take it.

[Raven]

not only that...but they simply love to order
a full investigation like they're free.

[Sea Dangles]

Wasn't the person most responsible a Bush appointee?

[spence]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Wasn't the person most responsible a Bush appointee?

Wouldn't matter, if it's an opportunity to embarrass the POTUS and waste taxpayer money then let's go for it.

I think the odds that it wasn't partisan aren't bad. To get tax exempt status your spending has to be focused on Social Work rather than Politics. And I think we'd all agree that there are a lot of groups that just ignore this...actually, in a lot of cases it's a joke.

With the eruption of organizations claiming to be affiliated to the Tea Party I'd say this would be some ripe territory to bust cheaters and help Uncle Sam increase revenues.

-spence

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by Raven

not only that...but they simply love to order
a full investigation like they're free.

Rav, I was just being sarcastic as that is what the Libs would say.
This is not good stuff, and the fact they were targeting certain political
groups is profiling at it's best. This had to come from somebody at the top.

The IRS will be the monitors for Obamacare , think they are hiring 16,000
more people, and they are the ones who will hold our personal health record information. Not good, not good at all.
I like when Congress is doing investigations, keeps them from having the time to write more Bills and Regulations, along with finding new ways to raise our taxes.

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

I think the odds that it wasn't partisan aren't bad. To get tax exempt status your spending has to be focused on Social Work rather than Politics. And I think we'd all agree that there are a lot of groups that just ignore this...actually, in a lot of cases it's a joke.


-spence

Like Planned Parenthood . I agree
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Wouldn't matter, if it's an opportunity to embarrass the POTUS and waste taxpayer money then let's go for it.

I think the odds that it wasn't partisan aren't bad. To get tax exempt status your spending has to be focused on Social Work rather than Politics. And I think we'd all agree that there are a lot of groups that just ignore this...actually, in a lot of cases it's a joke.

With the eruption of organizations claiming to be affiliated to the Tea Party I'd say this would be some ripe territory to bust cheaters and help Uncle Sam increase revenues.

-spence

"if it's an opportunity to...waste taxpayer money then let's go for it."

Spence, we are all glad that you are so committed to avoiding the wasting of taxpayers money. We all know that's a cornerstone of your agenda...

"I think the odds that it wasn't partisan aren't bad"

I, for one, am shocked that you don't believe it's partisan.

If the Tea Party doesn't deserve tax-exempt status, don't give it to them. But don't single out conservative groups for investigation...

[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

Like Planned Parenthood . I agree
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Quite different. Most of all Planned Parenthood spending goes towards STD prevention and treatment, cancer screening, contraception and women's health.

How much does PP spend on political influence?

That's the point.

-spence

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by buckman

Like Planned Parenthood . I agree
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Or Heritage Foundation, or American Solutions for Winning the Future or Occupy, or......

This is a big deal, and the appropriate people should be canned. But to call this "Nixonian" show the tapes or email where it came from anywhere near the White House. I also read one report where one of the higherups called for it on all political groups, not just conservative...

[RIJIMMY]

Officials at the Internal Revenue Service knew in June 2011 that their agents were targeting conservative groups for additional scrutiny on tax documents, the report indicates.

Lois Lerner, director of tax-exempt organizations for the IRS, publicly admitted Friday for the first time that agents used the keywords "tea party" and "patriot" to flag applications for further review, but she stressed that was done as a "shortcut" for picking the applications to review, not out of "political bias."

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

Quite different. Most of all Planned Parenthood spending goes towards STD prevention and treatment, cancer screening, contraception and women's health.

How much does PP spend on political influence?

That's the point.

-spence

About 2 million, with an interesting increase during Obama years
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[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

Lois Lerner, director of tax-exempt organizations for the IRS, publicly admitted Friday for the first time that agents used the keywords "tea party" and "patriot" to flag applications for further review, but she stressed that was done as a "shortcut" for picking the applications to review, not out of "political bias."

So, if that is true, then it is key, but proving intent is tough. If they were keying off of Occupy, or MoveOn then I guess it would be fairer...

either way, I still haven't seen anything about this being Obama's idea...

[spence]

Originally Posted by buckman

About 2 million, with an interesting increase during Obama years
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Why is that interesting?

They spent 1.9 million in 2011 but most years it's around 500K.

Over the past decade that represents about 1/2 of a percent a year. Not a lot...

-spence

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Quite different. Most of all Planned Parenthood spending goes towards STD prevention and treatment, cancer screening, contraception and women's health.

How much does PP spend on political influence?

That's the point.

-spence

"Most of all Planned Parenthood spending goes towards STD prevention and treatment, cancer screening, contraception and women's health."

As usual, you ignored the things that make Planned Parenthood look repugnant, God forbid you tell the whole truth. You seemed to have forgotten lots of abortions, and a willingness to help organize international prostitution rings of under-aged girls. How does that one jive with the concern for women's health?

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

Why is that interesting?

They spent 1.9 million in 2011 but most years it's around 500K.

Over the past decade that represents about 1/2 of a percent a year. Not a lot...

-spence

I don't think that 500k is an average since 2009 , is it???
I find it interesting because Obamacare encompasses quite a bit of money for them doesn't it ?

Let's get back to the case at hand .
The blatant use of the IRS to target Tea Party groups .
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[Mr. Sandman]

It's O's admin and you voted these Aholes back in.

Whoops I was just targeted!!

[buckman]

Originally Posted by Mr. Sandman

It's O's admin and you voted these Aholes back in.

Whoops I was just targeted!!

No it's always some low-level employee'. Those that are ultimately accountable, are never held accountable. Just ask them...
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

As usual, you ignored the things that make Planned Parenthood look repugnant, God forbid you tell the whole truth. You seemed to have forgotten lots of abortions, and a willingness to help organize international prostitution rings of under-aged girls. How does that one jive with the concern for women's health?

I didn't ignore anything, only about 3% of their services are abortion related.

As for prostitution, you really need to read a little more...

Planned Parenthood, a perennial protest target because of its role in providing abortions, has notified the FBI that at least 12 of its health centers were visited recently by a man purporting to be a sex trafficker but who may instead be part of an attempted ruse to entrap clinic employees.

In each case, according to Planned Parenthood, the man sought to speak privately with a clinic employee and then requested information about health services for sex workers, including some who he said were minors and in the U.S. illegally.

Planned Parenthood's vice president for communications, Stuart Schear, said the organization has requested an FBI probe of the man's claims and has already fielded some initial FBI inquiries. However, Schear said Planned Parenthood's own investigation indicates that the man has links with Live Action, an anti-abortion group that has conducted previous undercover projects aimed at discrediting the nation's leading abortion provider.

-Washington Post

-spence

[Fly Rod]

Prostitution thru Planned Parenthood.....Is it free????? ....I really do not want to have to pay for it ........I'm frugal.....LMAO......

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

I didn't ignore anything, only about 3% of their services are abortion related.

As for prostitution, you really need to read a little more...



-spence

Oh, I see...so Planned Parenthood wasn't concerned (nor are you concerned) that its employees were willing to advise on how to run a ring of 8 year-old prostitutes. What's really important here (to you and PP) is that someone posed as someone else, and came in with a hidden camers.

Spence, who gives a sh*t what group that camera crew is linked to? Did you see the videos? The issue here, the only issue, is that a multitude of PP employees gave prostitution advice, instead of calling the police.

SO instead of admitting they have a scandal on their hands, PP (and you, of course) try to pretend that the real issue is wih the camera crew.

Have you no shame? None at all?

P.S., we are all still waiting for your evidence that special forces troops weren't sent into Libya, because the Libyans didn't want us to send them. I am all atwitter with anticipation...

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Oh, I see...so Planned Parenthood wasn't concerned (nor are you concerned) that its employees were willing to advise on how to run a ring of 8 year-old prostitutes. What's really important here (to you and PP) is that someone posed as someone else, and came in with a hidden camers.

Spence, who gives a sh*t what group that camera crew is linked to? Did you see the videos? The issue here, the only issue, is that a multitude of PP employees gave prostitution advice, instead of calling the police.

SO instead of admitting they have a scandal on their hands, PP (and you, of course) try to pretend that the real issue is wih the camera crew.

Have you no shame? None at all?

Actually, they called the FBI.

P.S., we are all still waiting for your evidence that special forces troops weren't sent into Libya, because the Libyans didn't want us to send them. I am all atwitter with anticipation...

I never said that. It's just more bat#^&#^&#^&#^& nonsense you made up.

-spence

[justplugit]

Well we know the President isn't involved because he said today he just
found out about it Friday.
He also said, even though the IRS confessed already,"if this a fact" it is outrageous and needs to be dealt with.

What's this, the Associated Press reporters have been wire tapped
by the Justice Dept. ??

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Actually, they called the FBI.


I never said that. It's just more bat#^&#^&#^&#^& nonsense you made up.

-spence

"Actually, they called the FBI"

They called the FBI to report the camera crew that set up the sting. They didn't call the FBI to come arrest their employees who were so casually complicit, some joking around, about aiding in prostitution.

Somehow, Planned Parenthood sees themselves as the victim here. Neither they, nor you, will utter a syllable about what their employees did.