Brussels

[Sea Dangles]

Do you mean what street?
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Do you mean what street?
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Anything to substantiate your assertion is fine.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Anything to substantiate your assertion is fine.

Spence, in a general sense, how would you address this? By asking them nicely to stop? By apologizing for everything we did to instigate them? By refusing to concede that 99% of the terrorists are confined to a common set of religious beliefs?

In world history, there have been a small number of situations, where a small number of lunatics wanted to enslave and/or kill everyone else. I don't know that appeasement has ever worked. In the end, it's bullets and bombs that work. I don't like that any more that you do, I just concede the necessity. You will do teh same, only after a sufficient number of innocent people have been slaughtered on the altar of political correctness.

Your intellectual bankruptcy is beyond imagination.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Your intellectual bankruptcy is beyond imagination.

Please elaborate on this, I had no idea???

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Please elaborate on this, I had no idea???

How about this...you are one of the very, very few people on the planet, who will not (or cannot, not sure which it is) admit that Hilary has an issue with the truth.

On this thread you actually chastised those who are willing to use religion as a basis for terrorism policy, when every rational person in the world can see that one religion is creating 99% of the terrorists who threaten global security?

Along those lines, I asked you this question...if I gave your kids a bowl of 100 gummy bears and told you that exactly 1 was poisoned and would kill whoever eats it...how many would you let your kids eat, before you throw the whole bowl in the garbage? Can you answer that question, please?

Now, human beings aren't the equivalent of a bowl of gummy bears...but peaceful Muslims are freely choosing to be a part of this religion, and they are freely choosing (it seems) to not effectively deal with this problem.

Now, what is the primary responsibility of any governemnt? To protect its citizenry against conceiveable threats.

Spence, during our kids' lifetimes, there will be a reckoning between the Western world, and Islam. Our kids will ask us why we didn't deal with it, they'll ask why we dumped this at their feet. It will be a fair question.

Anyway, to answer your request for elaboration...you refuse to admit that any liberal is wrong on anything, ever. If that's not thoughtless, I don't know what is. I know a lot of peopple who are similarly thoughtless, you are one of the sharper ones, and from what I can tell, one of the more decent ones. Your refusal to criticize anything that they do, is difficult to process.

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

On this thread you actually chastised those who are willing to use religion as a basis for terrorism policy, when every rational person in the world can see that one religion is creating 99% of the terrorists who threaten global security?

Plants don't grow without seeds. Find out what the seeds are that create terrorism and extremists in the first place and you will see that it isn't Islam but colonialism / Zionism and capitalism.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Plants don't grow without seeds. Find out what the seeds are that create terrorism and extremists in the first place and you will see that it isn't Islam but colonialism / Zionism and capitalism.
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oh...no....we've really lost him....right over the edge!

[Fly Rod]

Should this carnage in Brussels have happened.....Brussels knew of these people since at least last summer and France too knew of their radicals prior to their attack...and as in California neighbors in Brussels thought their was something not right about their neigbors movement in and out of the apartmen they were in....nothing was reported to police of suspicious activity

Go to EL airlines in New york and U R scrutinized the moment U enter their terminal

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Plants don't grow without seeds. Find out what the seeds are that create terrorism and extremists in the first place and you will see that it isn't Islam but colonialism / Zionism and capitalism.
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"Plants don't grow without seeds"

Wow, thanks. This may surprise you, but some zoologists now say that plants and human beings are, in fact, different.

Yes, we need to do a bit to win the hearts and minds, and mend some fences. But we're also going to kill a lot of people. Nebe, America has done more for Muslims worldwide, than any nation in the history o fth eEarth. Who helped the Afghanis fight the Soviets? Who helped feed the Somalis? Who helped liberate Kuwait? In addiiotn, there i sno better nation on Earth to live as a Muslim, than America. We have bled and dieds for these people. It's not enough. They want us to grow zz top beards and force our women to dress like ninjas and be illiterate. No, thanks.

So you're willing to do away with "capitalism" to appease the terrorists? Don't you own your own business for Christ's sake?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

. Find out what the seeds are that create terrorism and extremists in the first place and you will see that it isn't Islam .
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No? Islam isn't the root of terrorism?

Islam i sbased on the life and teachings of Mohammed. I take it you're not an expert on the subject. He was a bloodthirsty, greedy, barbaric conquerer. The Japanese your grandfather fought against, took a page right out of his book. He was a bloodthirsty lunatic who killed everyone he didn't like. And this religion is based on him. And you deny that the violence comes from within the religion.

[Fishpart]

Originally Posted by Nebe

Plants don't grow without seeds. Find out what the seeds are that create terrorism and extremists in the first place and you will see that it isn't Islam but colonialism / Zionism and capitalism.
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Interesting Article from a former Federal Prosecutor that explains otherwise with examples from the book.

http://imprimis.hillsdale.edu/islam-facts-or-dreams/

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by spence

Anything to substantiate your assertion is fine.

It is not my assertion,I am merely passing on information that I found to be interesting. I have no link to offer, so you may process this as false seeing it does not fit your agenda.

Out of curiosity; do you doubt that Such an area exists in Brussels?
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

It is not my assertion,I am merely passing on information that I found to be interesting. I have no link to offer, so you may process this as false seeing it does not fit your agenda.

Out of curiosity; do you doubt that Such an area exists in Brussels?
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From what I've read it's a lower to middle class area but not the hotbed of violence you characterize it as. I've never read anywhere that police fear to go there, in contrast it's supposed to be pretty sedate.

Just after the Paris attacks I was having lunch with several Belgians and they were flabbergasted at how the America media was portraying the situation in their country. That doesn't mean they don't have issues...

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by spence

From what I've read it's a lower to middle class area but not the hotbed of violence you characterize it as. I've never read anywhere that police fear to go there, in contrast it's supposed to be pretty sedate.

Just after the Paris attacks I was having lunch with several Belgians and they were flabbergasted at how the America media was portraying the situation in their country. That doesn't mean they don't have issues...

Jeff, do not read between the lines here. Please show me where I characterized it as a hotbed of violence. I was simply passing on information. The fact that your limited reading was incapable of revealing the same facts has nothing to do with the reality of the situation.
My guess is that if you were dining with this alleged group of Belgians today,their opinions of their plight may have changed.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Jeff, do not read between the lines here. Please show me where I characterized it as a hotbed of violence. I was simply passing on information. The fact that your limited reading was incapable of revealing the same facts has nothing to do with the reality of the situation.
My guess is that if you were dining with this alleged group of Belgians today,their opinions of their plight may have changed.
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I would assume that if police thought the area was too violent to patrol then yes, it would be a hotbed of violence.

What's sad is that the police were there, they even knew the location of the Paris attacker yet failed to notify federal authorities.

Bigger security issues here are the cultural unwillingness to assimilate immigrants, extreme privacy laws and systemic communication failures from local to the EU.

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by spence

I would assume that if police thought the area was too violent to patrol then yes, it would be a hotbed of violence.

What's sad is that the police were there, they even knew the location of the Paris attacker yet failed to notify federal authorities.

Bigger security issues here are the cultural unwillingness to assimilate immigrants, extreme privacy laws and systemic communication failures from local to the EU.

All it means Jeff is that people get nervous when they enter an environment that has the potential for hostility,even police.I appreciate your opinion, however every country has areas in their security to exploit. I stand by my original statement.
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