AG Eric Holder says critics are racist

[Jim in CT]

I am so stinking sick of these people. To the liberals, there are 2 types of people in the world.

(1) those who worship Obama,and

(2) racists.

Holder Cites Race In Explaining Scrutiny Of Justice Department Actions | Fox News

Holder wants soldiers to have to mirandize enemy combatants (there is a reason that has never been ordered before), and under his leadership,the DEA provided violent Mexican gangs with automatic weapons that they are using to kill Americans.

If I question Holder on these things, it's because I'm racist? I have news for Eric Holder and liberals like him. It is, in fact, possible to be black and stupid.

Senator Harry Reid called President Bush a "loser". Did ANYONE claim that Reid was a bigot? Nope. Ed Schults called Laure Ingraham a "right wing slut". Did the National Organization For Women call him sexist? Nope. Because it's OK for liberals to attack those they disagree with, but conservatives are not allowed to criticize. To liberals, conservatives are a bunch of bigoted, hate-mongering, raicst, sexist homophobes (which makes me wonder why studies show that conservatives give more time and $$ to charity than liberals). It's easier for liberals to assign those labels than it is to defend their idiotic positions.

I am so sick of these people.

[scottw]

it's very effective, so they stick to it like glue

btw...watched The Help with the wife and kids the other night, fantastic movie and a local actress is getting high praise and nominations for her role, a sober reminder of how things were not so very long ago

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I am so sick of these people.

It does seem like you have much, much more anger than anyone else on this site.

[RIJIMMY]

Originally Posted by PaulS

It does seem like you have much, much more anger than anyone else on this site.

everyone should be angy

[ecduzitgood]

Originally Posted by PaulS

It does seem like you have much, much more anger than anyone else on this site.

I doubt that

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

It does seem like you have much, much more anger than anyone else on this site.

Any reason why I shouldn't be angry?

[The Dad Fisherman]

Oh, I don't know, Maybe because its Christmas, you got little ones at home that I'm sure are getting pumped that Santa is coming, People are posting Christmas Carol videos in the Music forum, Talking about the Beer, Wine, and Beverages they are going to drink for the holidays over in the Beer and Beverage Forum. There's best Holiday Wishes being posted up in the StriperTalk forum.

But if you want to stay couped up in here and stay Sour...enjoy.

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by RIJIMMY

everyone should be angy

Everyone should be extra thankful for every blessing they have. Not that they shouldn't stand up for their beliefs, but life is too short to spend it angry.

[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by zimmy

Everyone should be extra thankful for every blessing they have. Not that they shouldn't stand up for their beliefs, but life is too short to spend it angry.

#^&#^&#^&#^& you









happy holidays guys

[zimmy]

By the way... " Mr. Holder said he believed that a few — the 'more extreme segment' "were motivated by race. " Holder says critics are racist" implies that it is more than a few, extremists. The threads in this forum seem to have a common thread of distortion.

[zimmy]

Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

#^&#^&#^&#^& you









happy holidays guys

you too

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Any reason why I shouldn't be angry?

Originally Posted by zimmy

Everyone should be extra thankful for every blessing they have. Not that they shouldn't stand up for their beliefs, but life is too short to spend it angry.

Was going to post something similar to this and TDF's quote.

[spence]

Holder didn't say ALL criticism against him was racist, he said that there was a small and extreme segment attacking him to get at Obama that was motivated by racism.

I think his observation is real. It doesn't mean he's exempt from scrutiny nor does it assert that all criticism is driven by racism.

For Holder to bring it up certainly exposes the personal the pressure he's under.

-spence

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Holder didn't say ALL criticism against him was racist, he said that there was a small and extreme segment attacking him to get at Obama that was motivated by racism.

I think his observation is real. It doesn't mean he's exempt from scrutiny nor does it assert that all criticism is driven by racism.

For Holder to bring it up certainly exposes the personal the pressure he's under.

-spence

"I think his observation is real."

I'll ask just for the sake of asking. Do you (or Holder) have ANY EVIDENCE whatsoever, that extremist critics are motivated by racism?

I doubt anyone in the country detests Obama more than I do. I think his policies are hurting the nation (even Obama admitted the nation is worse off now than we were 3 years ago), and on top of that, I think he's an elitist jerk (he said the Cambridge cops acted stupidly, and when that got bad press, he claimed that we mistakenly took his comment as derogatory, as if the word "stupidly" can be taken any other way). You see, I can back up my opinions with facts.

My criticism of him is as extreme as it gets. I don't think a paid Al Queda plant could be doing more long-term harm to the country. And there's not a racist bone in my body.

If you're going to accuse somebody of racism, have some evidence.

[spence]

I'd think that the majority of criticism leveled at Obama is from legitimate ideological differences or expectation based observations. That being said, there also does appear to be a sustained effort to undermine his credibility based on his race.

As for evidence, one needs to look no further than the Right Wing initiative to frame Obama as not "American" because of his name, his birth cirtificate, his religion etc...this is all about racism.

What's sad is that it works, not only for the real racists but also tapping into more mainstream fears that in most people are repressed.

-spence

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

I'd think that the majority of criticism leveled at Obama is from legitimate ideological differences or expectation based observations. That being said, there also does appear to be a sustained effort to undermine his credibility based on his race.

As for evidence, one needs to look no further than the Right Wing initiative to frame Obama as not "American" because of his name, his birth cirtificate, his religion etc...this is all about racism.

What's sad is that it works, not only for the real racists but also tapping into more mainstream fears that in most people are repressed.

-spence

Spence, the people criticizing Holder, the ones he's complaining about, are members of Congress. I don't deny that there are racists out there. Holder is saying that HIS critics, the extreme ones, are racist.

The racism card clearly does NOT work, because lasttime I checked, Obama won the election. Obama's race has been a huge benefit to him. There's no way a white guy with a blank resume, with 3 completely uneventful years as a US Senator, beats Hilary Clinton.

Obama got 96% of the black vote. You telling me none of those folks voted for him just because he's black.

Spence, there are racists. Liberals cry "racism" way too often, with zero evidence.

[PaulS]

The Kenyan born socialist Muslim should just admit it.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Spence, the people criticizing Holder, the ones he's complaining about, are members of Congress. I don't deny that there are racists out there. Holder is saying that HIS critics, the extreme ones, are racist.

I believe what he's saying is that the type and method of some criticism he believes is unfairly directed at him is the same as what the president has also encountered. Sort of like a, it works with Obama so stick it to the other brother as well and bring them both down...Republicans in Congress have absolutely been complicit and some even active in the racism against the President.

The racism card clearly does NOT work, because lasttime I checked, Obama won the election. Obama's race has been a huge benefit to him. There's no way a white guy with a blank resume, with 3 completely uneventful years as a US Senator, beats Hilary Clinton.

Yes, Obamas race has definitely helped him and it's also been used against him quite effectively.

Obama got 96% of the black vote. You telling me none of those folks voted for him just because he's black.

Well, in most areas black voters tend to side with the Democrats anyway. I'd think that many would vote for him regardless just to elect the first black president and tear down another barrier.

The same could be said for women as well. I'm sure you'd get independent and some conservative women voting for Hillary for the same reason.

Spence, there are racists. Liberals cry "racism" way too often, with zero evidence.

I don't see how you can say there's zero evidence when it comes to this Administration. This doesn't mean Holder was wise to throw down the race card in this instance. There are valid questions to be asked of the Justice department, and when issues get muddled it can be very hard to resolve.

-spence

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

I believe what he's saying is that the type and method of some criticism he believes is unfairly directed at him is the same as what the president has also encountered. Sort of like a, it works with Obama so stick it to the other brother as well and bring them both down...Republicans in Congress have absolutely been complicit and some even active in the racism against the President.


Yes, Obamas race has definitely helped him and it's also been used against him quite effectively.


Well, in most areas black voters tend to side with the Democrats anyway. I'd think that many would vote for him regardless just to elect the first black president and tear down another barrier.

The same could be said for women as well. I'm sure you'd get independent and some conservative women voting for Hillary for the same reason.



I don't see how you can say there's zero evidence when it comes to this Administration. This doesn't mean Holder was wise to throw down the race card in this instance. There are valid questions to be asked of the Justice department, and when issues get muddled it can be very hard to resolve.

-spence

"Republicans in Congress have absolutely been complicit and some even active in the racism against the President."

Please name some. You said Republicans with an "s" at the end, so you're accusing more than one. Who are they, and what's the evidence?

Spence, do you know who Robert Byrd was? Democrat Senator from WV, died last year. He was a Senator for FORTY YEARS, he was president pro tempe of the senate, which made him THIRD in line for succession to the presidency. Mr Byrd was a huge figure in the Democratic party. And he was an admitted Klansman who used the "n" word in a TV interview shortly before his death. He (along with Senator Al Gore senior) fillibustered against the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Democrats never accused HIM of being a racist, but I'm supposed to be afraid of Mitt Romney?

You people have no shame. None.

And you still haven't told us how you would solve that pesky little $70 trillion shortfall we're facing. No ideas? No thoughts? Nothing?