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Old 09-22-2016, 01:53 PM   #1
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Then why was it paid as ransom ?
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When you have an obligation to fulfill it's not ransom, it's leverage. Big difference...
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Old 09-22-2016, 01:59 PM   #2
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When you have an obligation to fulfill it's not ransom, it's leverage. Big difference...
there is no obligation to give terrorists money
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When nobody takes you serious 400 million um I mean 150 billion helps .
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We're not paying Iran back 150 billion.
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heh...heh...

Bolstering Donald Trump's pledge to build a wall and deport criminal
illegals, a former Mexican foreign secretary said that there are "many ways"
the Republican presidential candidate, if elected, can get Mexico to pay for
the wall and deport four million immigrants.
"The wall is a perfectly feasible promise to fulfill,
" said Jorge Castañeda,
Mexico's secretary of foreign affairs from 2000 to 2003
.
Dismissing a Mexican Senate move to block federal payments to a Trump
administration for the wall as "silly,
" Castañeda offered up several ways for
Trump to find the money.
"If he really wants Mexicans to pay for the wall, he has many ways of
getting many Mexicans to pay for the wall, increasing the fee for
visas...increasing the toll on the bridges..taxing remittances,
" he said at the
Hudson Institute in Washington.
What's more, he said that the wall is an extension of programs first put into
place by former President Bill Clinton and extended under former President
George W. Bush and President Obama .
"Actually today you have somewhere like 40 percent of the 1,700 mile wall
that is already there. So why can't Trump do what he has promised to do if
his three predecessors did a lot of it without wanting to?" he said.
Ditto on deportations. Noting that Obama has been dubbed the "Deporterin#^&Chief"
for removing two million, Castañeda said doubling that to four
million shouldn't be a problem.

"He certainly could deport twice as many as Obama, why not, why not?
Everybody knows where they it's very easy to find them. It's expensive, but
it's not outrageously expensive and you could pressure a bunch of people
including my country into paying for part of it and taking them back,
" said
the diplomat who is a New York University professor.
"If Obama was able to deport a little more than two million...why can't
Trump deport four million if he wants to?"
he added.
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