Forbes issues warning

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Wow thanks captain obvious for pointing out something I was aware I posted, but thanks for reinforcing my jab at Jim.

more like a pinch from a girl.

if snapshot polls are meaningless, what’s your take on a presidential
impeachment vote in the house, done in a couple of hours? you’re ok with snap impeachment it seems. were there any hearings, any testimony, any interviews with those who were arrested?

forget the poll ( which is what you do to poll you don’t like). look at this list ( a selective list of his good accomplishments, it’s not everything you need to know about the last 4 years), and tell me why people wouldn’t conclude these things improved their lives?

tax cuts
low unemployment
lowest black unemployment ever
stock market records
increases in median incomes
isis routed
no involvement in questionable
conflicts
increased funding for black colleges
school choice
creation of economic opportunity zones in urban areas
criminal justice reform
making america energy independent
peace progress in the middle east
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[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

more like a pinch from a girl.

if snapshot polls are meaningless, what’s your take on a presidential
impeachment vote in the house, done in a couple of hours? you’re ok with snap impeachment it seems. were there any hearings, any testimony, any interviews with those who were arrested?

forget the poll ( which is what you do to poll you don’t like). look at this list ( a selective list of his good accomplishments, it’s not everything you need to know about the last 4 years), and tell me why people wouldn’t conclude these things improved their lives?

tax cuts
low unemployment
lowest black unemployment ever
stock market records
increases in median incomes
isis routed
no involvement in questionable
conflicts
increased funding for black colleges
school choice
creation of economic opportunity zones in urban areas
criminal justice reform
making america energy independent
peace progress in the middle east
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Boy when you get your needle stuck it’s epic, going to have fun for four years of whataboutism and lists oh boy.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Boy when you get your needle stuck it’s epic, going to have fun for four years of whataboutism and lists oh boy.

so like most liberals, when backed into a corner, instead of admitting the possibility that i have a point, you lob baseless insults.

GS, i’m not rooting against biden. 4 years from now, i hope i’m saying he did more to improve my life, than Trump. I’m not expecting it, but i hope it.

In the meantime, he’s inadvertently helping me. This summer, when i was convinced biden was going to win, i tried to figure out how i could benefit from that. i figured a biden presidency would be good for china, and bad for us oil. so i dug deeper, and tried to figure out what that might mean, and i figured at some point, businesses that get a lot of help or revenue from china will do well, and businesses that benefit from an increase in the price of oil will do well. so i bought Tesla and Exxon Mobil. let’s say it hasn’t exactly been a disaster.

and i love how you dismiss so
much as whatsboutism. I’ll ask you again, is there no value in pointing out hypocrisy? how do you prove hypocrisy, without engaging in whatsboutism?

let’s see you not defend everything biden does for the next 4 years, by saying trump was worse. I’d like to see that.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Boy when you get your needle stuck it’s epic, going to have fun for four years of whataboutism and lists oh boy.

oh, and as always, you completely dodged my question like the coward you are, and lobbed baseless insults instead.
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[Pete F.]

"If your only -- or even simply your first -- point in defense of Trump is that Democrats are hypocrites or have double standards, you are in effect arguing that the left dictates your standards.

If you say Trump can't or shouldn't be held to account because liberals didn't hold their own side accountable for (what you allege) was similar incitement or behavior, what you're really saying is you care less about your own standards than the hypocrisy of the left.

I have no problem complaining about the hypocrisy of the left. But even if the facts were exactly as you allege, I still oppose incitement and unconstitutional behavior. The left's shifting standards shouldn't change conservatism's standards.

If my kid shoplifts, she'll be punished. If she complains her friend's parents don't care about shoplifting so it's unfair for me to punish her, I'll say "I don't care what they do" (even though I do care and I'll make a stink later). None of that changes what's right.

I'm not an expert on Christianity. But my understanding is that if you sin and are called to account for it, replying "Yeah, but look at what the Muslims do" is not a defense. Again, no expert so I'm open to correction.

But that's my point. Vast swaths of what passes for serious conservatism and analysis boils down to whining that the left is trying to hold the right accountable to the right's own standards -- and that that's somehow unfair.

Just because the left is outraged that the president lied about the election being stolen so much that a mob stormed the Capitol and killed people on the president's behalf, doesn't mean conservatives SHOULDN'T BE OUTRAGED BY IT FFS.

And just because you think their outrage is hypocritical, inconsistent, partisan, or set to the wrong tune for all I care, that shouldn't lessen your anger or outrage one iota.

In fact, you should be angrier b/c this wannabe celebrity despot implicitly & explicitly claims to be acting & speaking for you. You should be screaming, "This isn't who we are" or "Not my name you staggering jackwad." Not bleating about how some Democrat is a hypocrite.

Conservatism claims to believe in serious notions of right & wrong. We (claim to) champion moral clarity. If your first response to every misdeed of your side is to criticize the other side for condemning it. That's not principled conservatism, it's hackery.
Rant over"

Guess who

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Got Traitors

Wow thanks captain obvious for pointing out something I was aware I posted, but thanks for reinforcing my jab at Jim.

it's not clear that you were..

perhaps you should get one of those cognitive tests...you don't even remember writing on those golf balls and hitting them out on to the course...

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

more like a pinch from a girl.


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Definitely not a misogynist

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Definitely not a misogynist

you should report him....

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by scottw

you should report him....

Defiantly a troll

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Defiantly a troll

Proof
Of
Stupidity

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Proof
I'm
Stupid

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

so like most liberals, when backed into a corner, instead of admitting the possibility that i have a point, you lob baseless insults.

GS, i’m not rooting against biden. 4 years from now, i hope i’m saying he did more to improve my life, than Trump. I’m not expecting it, but i hope it.

In the meantime, he’s inadvertently helping me. This summer, when i was convinced biden was going to win, i tried to figure out how i could benefit from that. i figured a biden presidency would be good for china, and bad for us oil. so i dug deeper, and tried to figure out what that might mean, and i figured at some point, businesses that get a lot of help or revenue from china will do well, and businesses that benefit from an increase in the price of oil will do well. so i bought Tesla and Exxon Mobil. let’s say it hasn’t exactly been a disaster.

and i love how you dismiss so
much as whatsboutism. I’ll ask you again, is there no value in pointing out hypocrisy? how do you prove hypocrisy, without engaging in whatsboutism?

let’s see you not defend everything biden does for the next 4 years, by saying trump was worse. I’d like to see that.
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Look into Lucid
My 16 year old has decided to invest heavily
He was right on Bitcoin and Tesla

[Sea Dangles]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Cancel culture has exacerbated your shortcomings
🤡

[Pete F.]

Trump’s final Pew poll shows only 29% of Americans approve his conduct as POTUS.

The lowest number ever.

[Sea Dangles]

👍🏽🍔
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Look into Lucid
My 16 year old has decided to invest heavily
He was right on Bitcoin and Tesla

Thanks, I don't know anything about Lucid. And I just put in stop-loss orders on the Tesla, as it probably has more downside than upside at this point...

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Trump’s final Pew poll shows only 29% of Americans approve his conduct as POTUS.

The lowest number ever.

Lowest for him but don't forget another R Nixon's was lower.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

UPDATE: "ANTIFA" ARRESTS SINCE JAN. 6 REMAIN far closer to ZERO
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INSURGENCY USA

[Pete F.]

Washington Post is just out with "How the rioters who stormed the Capitol came dangerously close to Pence”

Could this be one reason Pence mightn’t be too jazzed about a deal with Trump making Pence president for a day so he can pardon ex-president Trump early on January 20? Just asking . . .

[scottw]

is pence ok?

funny how some are concerned about how "dangerously close" these rioters came to politicians but over the last year ignored rioters beating innocent citizens and burning down private property and attacking police and other law enforcement members...

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Lowest for him but don't forget another R Nixon's was lower.

Tweetless' approval rating has been dropping faster than the Covid infection rate since the 6th, really flattened the curve on that.

Nixon got down to 24%, have to see what the true believers end up thinking.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by scottw

John Sullivan

ironically the founder of the civil rights group "Insurgence USA"

well known blm/antifa punk

John Sullivan was arrested and charged on January 14th, according to the Department of Justice, with “one count of knowingly entering or remaining in any restricted building or grounds without lawful authority, one count of violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds, and one count of interfering with law enforcement engaged in the lawful performance of their official duties incident to and during the commission of civil disorder.”

There are analogues:
• The communist sympathizer who joined the Soviet underground during the Cold War.
• The Irish nationalist who got sucked into Sinn Fein and then the IRA.
• The unwitting person who joins Scientology or the Hare Krishnas.
• The Muslim who was radicalized and joined ISIS.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

There are analogues:
• The communist sympathizer who joined the Soviet underground during the Cold War.
• The Irish nationalist who got sucked into Sinn Fein and then the IRA.
• The unwitting person who joins Scientology or the Hare Krishnas.
• The Muslim who was radicalized and joined ISIS.

where do you get this crap?...

[spence]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Washington Post is just out with "How the rioters who stormed the Capitol came dangerously close to Pence

It’s worth reading. The WaPo has several new reports that highlight just how dangerous and unprecedented this event really was.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

It’s worth reading. The WaPo has several new reports that highlight just how dangerous and unprecedented this event really was.
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The Washington Post has several new articles. Incredible. No doubt they will tell us about all the great things Trump has done. And how Biden and Harris and co. will do great things for us with China.

[Pete F.]

Just remember when you are listening to the talking heads that a lot of this impeachment focus is on Tweetless' actions leading to the attack.

But his indifference and refusal to do anything to protect legislators, his VP and the Capitol for hours DURING the attack is impeachable in itself.

He undeniably wanted it to escalate.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

He undeniably wanted it to escalate.

Arguably he still does.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Arguably he still does.

by calling for peace? that’s what he’s doing

on the day that 5 Dallas police officers were assassinated, Obama
made a statement that two recent situations of white cops killing black
men, “are not isolated incidents.”

the only way to interpret that remark, is that there’s a systemic plot among american police departments where cops are targeting blacks for murder.

On that same day, a few hours later, 5 police officers were assassinated in dallas. no one suggested obama be impeached.

every single time democrats and the media vilify cops ( with lies told
for political gain), cops get
murdered. it doesnt stop democrats and the media from doing it. but they get a pass.

Maxine Waters goes on tv and tells
americans to harass elected republicans, “let them know they aren’t welcome anywhere, anytime.”. She gets a pass.

A rabid Bernie supporter shoots. Steve Scalise in the head , NO ONE hints that Bernie is responsible ( because he wasn’t).

Most indefensible, Al Sharpton is still embraced within the democrat party, still extremely powerful, despite a long record of
making inflammatory statements that lead to violence. But democrats say it’s OK when he does it.

At the impeachment vote, there was no testimony, no interviews, no hearings, no bringing in the people
who were arrested at the capital to ask them what role Trumps words played ( isn’t that sort of relevant?).
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[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

oh, and as always, you completely dodged my question like the coward you are, and lobbed baseless insults instead.
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Didn’t dodge every “point” or perceived benefit has been debated and everyone on this board has put in their two cents. Pay attention over the long haul, or look into this memory enhancement drugs.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Got Traitors

Didn’t dodge every “point” or perceived benefit has been debated and everyone on this board has put in their two cents. Pay attention over the long haul, or look into this memory enhancement drugs.

Wtf?
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