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02-25-2019, 06:47 AM
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Smaller Kitchens
We have shifted from building larger custom homes to smaller more affordable ones. The kitchens are much more simple, and I'm in and done in just two or three days. The 33 lot subdivision was started last year with a dozen homes already sold preconstruction.
More middle class people than ever are buying new homes in these good economic times.
PS....dont go in the porta-potty when its gusting over 35 mph 
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02-25-2019, 04:07 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Cape Cod
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Kitchen floor ? Plz
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02-26-2019, 07:13 AM
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Prefinished oak ....charcoal stain color...customer choices trending away from natural oak for now.
First time home buyers these days want/expect a lot more than they did back in the seventies when I built my home.
Back then we built something called a starter home ....one bedroom one bath with an unfinished upstairs with room for future two or three small bedrooms and a bath.
No two car garages, no master suite with whirlpool tub and walk-in closets, no granite counters, no central a/c ...etc.
Simpler times and lower expectations back then. Home buyers these days want it all, and right away .... one reason houses cost so much more today.
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02-26-2019, 11:10 AM
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Location: Marshfield, MA
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But
Back then interest rates were what? 10-16%. Houses now appear to be big money cause everyone can get a 700k note for 30 years at 4 point something percent.
I would say most houses are worth 200 to 250k less than what they are selling for.
But people pay it. I think it’s crazy.
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02-26-2019, 04:59 PM
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Location: Cape Cod
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I enjoyed building for first time home buyers on a budget ...
The MacMansion clients where more often than not... PIA’s
“Gone fishin”
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02-26-2019, 05:25 PM
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Canceled
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Location: vt
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I’ve always found that people who work for money, want to pay you, just be fair and honest.
People who have money want to keep it, different mindset.
Of course, that’s a generalization.
On starter houses, try and get a bank to loan you money for an unfinished house, NFW will they.
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02-27-2019, 05:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete F.
I’ve always found that people who work for money, want to pay you, just be fair and honest.
People who have money want to keep it, different mindset.
Of course, that’s a generalization.
On starter houses, try and get a bank to loan you money for an unfinished house, NFW will they.
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I've always said "people who get rich normally don't get there by being fair an honest"
The first two banks I went to for a mortgage loan to build my house turned me down...said they don't do mortgages for 20 year olds with out a co-signer. I kept trying and eventually got approved for the loan at 8% on my own good credit and work history.
Small cape cod style home was easy to build, I finished the second floor added a family room and two car garage as our family grew.
Still living here .....42+ years and counting. |
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02-27-2019, 08:38 PM
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Look up a company called Zaveeta Builders in Bucks County PA. Average size houses are 10k sqrft. Amazing the houses they build and sell.
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03-06-2019, 06:20 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by trevier
Look up a company called Zaveeta Builders in Bucks County PA. Average size houses are 10k sqrft. Amazing the houses they build and sell.
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They are amazing! Great craftsmanship and designs!
But 10,000 sq. ft. is ridiculous.... trophy houses... can you imagine the taxes, utilities, maintenance....I could not live comfortably in one of those monuments, probably because I grew up living in tenement apartment in a family of ten....one bathroom. Hey at least we had indoor plumbing. 
Couple more smaller kitchens....
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03-06-2019, 04:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rmarsh
They are amazing! Great craftsmanship and designs!
But 10,000 sq. ft. is ridiculous.... trophy houses... can you imagine the taxes, utilities, maintenance....I could not live comfortably in one of those monuments, probably because I grew up living in tenement apartment in a family of ten....one bathroom. Hey at least we had indoor plumbing.
Couple more smaller kitchens.... |
I'd never have a house that big. Give me 10k acres to myself, a 3k sqrft house, a 40x80 heated barn, in ground pool and I'd be all set. |
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03-10-2019, 02:55 PM
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Hardcore Equipment Tester
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Abington, MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rmarsh
They are amazing! Great craftsmanship and designs!
But 10,000 sq. ft. is ridiculous.... trophy houses... can you imagine the taxes, utilities, maintenance....I could not live comfortably in one of those monuments, probably because I grew up living in tenement apartment in a family of ten....one bathroom. Hey at least we had indoor plumbing.
Couple more smaller kitchens.... |
Exact;y, I had a friend sell his huge house here in Abington cause his taxes were 11,000.00 + per year
It's nice to see normal sized houses being built for a change |
Bent Rods and Screaming Reels!
Spot NAZI
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03-06-2019, 09:14 PM
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Idiot
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Glastonbury, CT
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In your kitchen travels, have you developed a preference when it comes to painted cabinets? We’re moving end of the month and the new house has natural wood cabinets, trying to figure out if it’s feasible to hire someone to paint them or if I should just order new fronts that have been factory painted
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03-07-2019, 12:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian
In your kitchen travels, have you developed a preference when it comes to painted cabinets? We’re moving end of the month and the new house has natural wood cabinets, trying to figure out if it’s feasible to hire someone to paint them or if I should just order new fronts that have been factory painted
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I'd run the costs myself. See what the difference is. |
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03-08-2019, 12:15 AM
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Idiot
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Glastonbury, CT
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Originally Posted by trevier
I'd run the costs myself. See what the difference is.
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That’s the current plan, just wondering if anyone had been successful long term with having them painted on site.
With my current cabinets, I painted all the boxes but bought new drawer fronts and doors from a custom cabinet wholesaler who matched the color and sprayed everything offsite.
The new kitchen has some really nice existing cabinets, just not our style. So if painting them is something that will last, I’d prefer to preserve what’s there as replacing them would be kinda wasteful.
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The artist formerly known as Scratch59.
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03-08-2019, 06:41 AM
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I’ve sent them out a couple of times ...
Had to super clean them to make sure there’s no trace of any oil..
My cabinet guy sprays a lacquer finish and the oil (dirt) causes fish eyes in the finish product...
These where not painted but refinished with satin sealer...
Painting a color May be more problematic me thinks...
Hurry up, it’s almost time to fish....  |
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03-09-2019, 05:27 PM
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Idiot
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Location: Glastonbury, CT
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Originally Posted by Guppy
I’ve sent them out a couple of times ...
Had to super clean them to make sure there’s no trace of any oil..
My cabinet guy sprays a lacquer finish and the oil (dirt) causes fish eyes in the finish product...
These where not painted but refinished with satin sealer...
Painting a color May be more problematic me thinks...
Hurry up, it’s almost time to fish.... |
This one is getting subbed out. 4 week project that is done May 4th whether it’s complete or not. I learned my lesson last fall... not letting another season get messed up by my insatiable appetite for home projects 
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The artist formerly known as Scratch59.
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03-09-2019, 05:48 PM
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Seldom Seen
Join Date: May 2001
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian
The new kitchen has some really nice existing cabinets, just not our style. So if painting them is something that will last, I’d prefer to preserve what’s there as replacing them would be kinda wasteful.
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Not wasteful if you are able to recycle said cabinets in a newly built out work shop..... |
“Americans have the right and advantage of being armed, unlike the people of other countries, whose leaders are afraid to trust them with arms.” – James Madison.
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03-09-2019, 07:20 PM
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Idiot
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Glastonbury, CT
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Originally Posted by nightfighter
Not wasteful if you are able to recycle said cabinets in a newly built out work shop.....
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Excellent point....
I should have specified that the thing that isn’t our style is simply the color (they’re natural cherry) but since we’re staining the floors, natural wood cabinets just aren’t gonna work. Probably going to give it a shot as a hire out for stripping down the existing cabinets, painting them, and putting things back together.
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The artist formerly known as Scratch59.
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03-10-2019, 03:14 PM
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Checked out the website. Wowsers. Impressive "houses". To only be rich.
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03-26-2019, 04:25 AM
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couple more
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03-26-2019, 04:40 AM
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custom bath cabinets .......the little blue caps push down over tile spacers and do a good job of keeping the tiles flush with each other
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03-27-2019, 06:58 AM
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Idiot
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Glastonbury, CT
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Nicely done, who made the cabinets? You?
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03-27-2019, 08:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian
Nicely done, who made the cabinets? You?
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I installed them....guy that built them does excellent work ...all custom...small local shop and he is very nice guy to work with.
There is so much work right its insane...... we are using subcontractors like him to handle the excess. Glad to give out his contact info if you'd like it.
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03-27-2019, 12:56 PM
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Very Grumpy bay man
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That's OK. Think about this. We haven't had a re-evaluation in 6 years. Just had what is called a "statistical re-evaluation". My property value went up over $200,000.
Not saying that they are wrong. I am saying Holy #^&#^&#^&#^&!!!! I didn't think it was worth $600K.
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No boat, back in the suds. 
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03-27-2019, 09:21 PM
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Idiot
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Location: Glastonbury, CT
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rmarsh
I installed them....guy that built them does excellent work ...all custom...small local shop and he is very nice guy to work with.
There is so much work right its insane...... we are using subcontractors like him to handle the excess. Glad to give out his contact info if you'd like it.
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If you wouldn’t mind.
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06-06-2019, 06:18 AM
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Very Grumpy bay man
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Location: Rhode Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rmarsh
I installed them....guy that built them does excellent work ...all custom...small local shop and he is very nice guy to work with.
There is so much work right its insane...... we are using subcontractors like him to handle the excess. Glad to give out his contact info if you'd like it.
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You ain't kidding. I am working at a golf course but get calls everyday for everything from decks to total rehabs. Just don't have the time or energy at 71. |
No boat, back in the suds.
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05-08-2019, 05:47 AM
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Got a little project to do with some rough sawn timber. Cutting half-lap joints to connect all the parts.
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05-08-2019, 05:49 AM
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06-03-2019, 05:30 AM
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Finishing up this freestanding rustic barn door entrance/backdrop for an outdoor wedding. The tight fitting half lapped joints of the 4x6 and 6x8 door frame pieces have no mechanical fasteners yet, amazingly strong just pressed together. It needs to be easy to take apart and reassemble.
Thinking about bleaching oil and silver gray stain for a natural weathered look.
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05-08-2019, 06:09 AM
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Old school right there.... nice Bob
That’s one of the best saws evah IMO.... have several kicking around
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