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Old 11-23-2022, 10:00 AM   #1
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Teachers are great. Teachers unions are evil, that's not an exaggeration in my opinion. They bankroll campaigns of corrupt democrats, then partner with governments to enrich the union while making children more ignorant. Teachers unions could teach the mafia lessons about greed and corruption.

When I taught, it was in a rough middle school in a rough town. Lots of fights in the hallways between classes. One day the principal asked teachers to stick their heads into the hallway for the 3-5 minutes we had between periods to look out for trouble. Who wouldn't agree to that? The union. The union sent us all letters demanding that we refuse to do that, because the taxpayers weren't paying us to work for the 3 minutes between periods. The union demanded we get paid more for doing that.

Then, some business donated a few ping pong tables to the school. I am a ping pong master, so I agreed to start a ping pong club at the school. There was no money to pay me, but I didn't care. I did it for free. The union sent me another letter, demanding that I stop volunteering my time, they demanded that the school pay me or no club. I told them to go f-ck themselves.

Then during covid, unions refused to go back to work unless all kinds of demands were met.

Now my 3 are in catholic schools. No unions. The difference in culture is night and day.

We get it, your union made you wealthier than you ever could have been without them. But there are two sides to that story, the other side being what taxpayers have to do, to fund what unions demand, and what they get thanks to whores in the democrat party who are owned by the union.

Crappy parents are the biggest obstacle to offering good education to kids. Teachers unions are a close second. You cannot oppose school choice and say with a straight face that you care about the quality of education we offer kids.

Teachers Unions are all about $$, and it's never ever enough.

Pompeo called the union president "the most dangerous person in the world", which is an idiotic thing to say. But her union is doing catastrophic damage to generations of children, enriching themselves at the expense of the kids. That's what teachers unions do. Take resources away from kids and put that money in the union bank accounts.

Teachers unions are great for teachers. They are catastrophic for students.

The democrats need more from the unions now. Their second biggest donor, after George Soros, is that con man whose crypto company just went kaput. He gave huge $$ to democrats. If he were a Republican megadonor, you'd have made 10 posts about it.

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Old 11-23-2022, 11:47 AM   #2
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Teachers are great. Teachers unions are evil, that's not an exaggeration in my opinion. They bankroll campaigns of corrupt democrats, then partner with governments to enrich the union while making children more ignorant. Teachers unions could teach the mafia lessons about greed and corruption.

When I taught, it was in a rough middle school in a rough town. Lots of fights in the hallways between classes. One day the principal asked teachers to stick their heads into the hallway for the 3-5 minutes we had between periods to look out for trouble. Who wouldn't agree to that? The union. The union sent us all letters demanding that we refuse to do that, because the taxpayers weren't paying us to work for the 3 minutes between periods. The union demanded we get paid more for doing that.

Then, some business donated a few ping pong tables to the school. I am a ping pong master, so I agreed to start a ping pong club at the school. There was no money to pay me, but I didn't care. I did it for free. The union sent me another letter, demanding that I stop volunteering my time, they demanded that the school pay me or no club. I told them to go f-ck themselves.

Then during covid, unions refused to go back to work unless all kinds of demands were met.

Now my 3 are in catholic schools. No unions. The difference in culture is night and day.

We get it, your union made you wealthier than you ever could have been without them. But there are two sides to that story, the other side being what taxpayers have to do, to fund what unions demand, and what they get thanks to whores in the democrat party who are owned by the union.

Crappy parents are the biggest obstacle to offering good education to kids. Teachers unions are a close second. You cannot oppose school choice and say with a straight face that you care about the quality of education we offer kids.

Teachers Unions are all about $$, and it's never ever enough.

Pompeo called the union president "the most dangerous person in the world", which is an idiotic thing to say. But her union is doing catastrophic damage to generations of children, enriching themselves at the expense of the kids. That's what teachers unions do. Take resources away from kids and put that money in the union bank accounts.

Teachers unions are great for teachers. They are catastrophic for students.

The democrats need more from the unions now. Their second biggest donor, after George Soros, is that con man whose crypto company just went kaput. He gave huge $$ to democrats. If he were a Republican megadonor, you'd have made 10 posts about it.
He gave money to Republicans. But thanks for staying on topic

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...or-republicans

FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried, while a top Democratic campaign contributor, also gave a significant sum of cash to Republican candidates and organizations ahead of the midterm election.


Unions are great for Americans. Republicans and big business not so much

Your child’s education is the parents responsibility

teachers can’t teach children who don’t attend don’t their homework while dealing with parents who think their responsibility end once the kid on the bus .. then crying their victims because their kid aren’t successful in school

The woke excuse only works on the Republican uninformed base voter
With most of them having zero children in school
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Old 11-23-2022, 01:19 PM   #3
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He gave money to Republicans. But thanks for staying on topic

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...or-republicans

FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried, while a top Democratic campaign contributor, also gave a significant sum of cash to Republican candidates and organizations ahead of the midterm election.


Unions are great for Americans. Republicans and big business not so much

Your child’s education is the parents responsibility

teachers can’t teach children who don’t attend don’t their homework while dealing with parents who think their responsibility end once the kid on the bus .. then crying their victims because their kid aren’t successful in school

The woke excuse only works on the Republican uninformed base voter
With most of them having zero children in school
“he gave money to republicans.”

From your article, in the 21-22 elections, he gave $262,000 to Republicans, and $40,000,000 to democrats

You really missed your calling. With your unlimited ability to say absolutely anything, no matter how absurd, you should have been a lawyer.

99.35% of his donations were to democrats.
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Old 11-23-2022, 01:25 PM   #4
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He gave money to Republicans. But thanks for staying on topic

https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...or-republicans

FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried, while a top Democratic campaign contributor, also gave a significant sum of cash to Republican candidates and organizations ahead of the midterm election.


Unions are great for Americans. Republicans and big business not so much

Your child’s education is the parents responsibility

teachers can’t teach children who don’t attend don’t their homework while dealing with parents who think their responsibility end once the kid on the bus .. then crying their victims because their kid aren’t successful in school

The woke excuse only works on the Republican uninformed base voter
With most of them having zero children in school
"Your child’s education is the parents responsibility "

So teachers, who in New England can EASILY make $100k a year with cadillac health insurance, insanely generous pensions, tons of time off, and guaranteed job security, have no responsibility for education? What is their responsibility then, Wayne? If teachers aren't responsible for the education of their students, what would you say they are responsible for?

Furthermore, your side is saying parents should but out and leave it to the teachers. That's mutually exclusive from your statement that education is the parents responsibility.

If you really believe that educating my kids is my responsibility, then how can you oppose the idea of letting me spend my tax dollars on the education that I know is best for my kids?

Talk about wanting to have it both ways!

Most Republicans have no children in school? What are you talking about? Did you drink fentanyl today?
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Old 11-23-2022, 05:48 PM   #5
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"Your child’s education is the parents responsibility "

So teachers, who in New England can EASILY make $100k a year with cadillac health insurance, insanely generous pensions, tons of time off, and guaranteed job security, have no responsibility for education? What is their responsibility then, Wayne? If teachers aren't responsible for the education of their students, what would you say they are responsible for?

Furthermore, your side is saying parents should but out and leave it to the teachers. That's mutually exclusive from your statement that education is the parents responsibility.

If you really believe that educating my kids is my responsibility, then how can you oppose the idea of letting me spend my tax dollars on the education that I know is best for my kids?

Talk about wanting to have it both ways!

Most Republicans have no children in school? What are you talking about? Did you drink fentanyl today?
then how can you oppose the idea of letting me spend my tax dollars on the education

Because Jim you don’t pay crap..

How much of your town tax’s do you think you pay for 3 kids to go to school.. in a year. The same as the person who has no kids.

You have no argument it’s fantasy .



Most Republicans have no children in school?

You need to read more

When I began to cover the protests over Common Core State Standards a few years ago, most of the opponents showing up at the Legislature were home-schooling parents and older Georgians whose children had long graduated. I recall a woman brushing away tears as she told lawmakers how Common Core would hurt her four kids, but, when asked which district her children attended, explained they were home-schooled.

https://www.noleftturn.us/

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Old 11-23-2022, 07:20 PM   #6
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then how can you oppose the idea of letting me spend my tax dollars on the education

Because Jim you don’t pay crap..

How much of your town tax’s do you think you pay for 3 kids to go to school.. in a year. The same as the person who has no kids.

You have no argument it’s fantasy .



Most Republicans have no children in school?

You need to read more

When I began to cover the protests over Common Core State Standards a few years ago, most of the opponents showing up at the Legislature were home-schooling parents and older Georgians whose children had long graduated. I recall a woman brushing away tears as she told lawmakers how Common Core would hurt her four kids, but, when asked which district her children attended, explained they were home-schooled.

https://www.noleftturn.us/

You should love this site
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what’s the responsibility of the teachers wayne, if not educating children?

one person observing that one group of republicans was home schooling, from that you make a leap that republicans don’t have kids in public school.

republicans are less wealthy than liberals. they’re more likely to have kids in public school. it’s not rocket science.

one woman home schools, and you think she represents every republican? brilliant wayne.

if i don’t pay crap, then it’s no big deal to give it back to me.

You’re humiliating yourself.
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Old 11-24-2022, 09:00 AM   #7
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what’s the responsibility of the teachers wayne, if not educating children?

one person observing that one group of republicans was home schooling, from that you make a leap that republicans don’t have kids in public school.

republicans are less wealthy than liberals. they’re more likely to have kids in public school. it’s not rocket science.

one woman home schools, and you think she represents every republican? brilliant wayne.

if i don’t pay crap, then it’s no big deal to give it back to me.

You’re humiliating yourself.

Jim on person humiliating oneself is you. Because

you think you’re entitled to what it costs to send a child to school x3

Which in your state is Connecticut spends $20,635 per student,

Like I said you don’t pay enough taxes . But want school choice welfare
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Old 11-26-2022, 07:38 PM   #8
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Jim on person humiliating oneself is you. Because

you think you’re entitled to what it costs to send a child to school x3

Which in your state is Connecticut spends $20,635 per student,

Like I said you don’t pay enough taxes . But want school choice welfare
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my town ( education budgets are usually a town thing not a state thing) spends about $14k per kid.

YOU said education is the parents responsibility, not the teachers. Fine. Give me some of my tax money back ( not all of it) and let me use it to fulfill what YOU said was my responsibility.

Yes taxes in CT are way too low. That’s our problem. You figured it out.
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