What motivates ISIS recruits?

[detbuch]

A short video from CBS interviewing a young defector From ISIS who tells what motivated him to join the terrorist group. Not a word about Trump.

http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/isis-d...raws-recruits/
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[JohnR]

Well seeing Isis was around long before Trump.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Well seeing Isis was around long before Trump.

Correct. Obama thought he could make things better by taking a softer public tone to ISIS, it didn't work. Not by any measure did it work.

They may well use Trump to recruit because it's convenient, but if we elected Hilary, or a moderate Muslim for that matter, they'd use something else. They will always use whatever is available to recruit, unless we become exactly like them.

I would not be critical of Trump, or anyone, just because ISIS is going to hate him. In fact, I'd be skeptical of any politician that ISIS was willing to endorse.

If they despise Trump, that tells me he's on the right side of this particular issue.

The Civil Rights advocates in the 1950s had an expression regarding the Klan - "if they're shooting at you, you must be doing something right". I don't recall worrying about politicians that the Klan really hated. It should be a badge of honor to say "those bad guys really don't like me".

[wdmso]

It always been about control and power , money and they use religion get you in and fear to keep you obedient .. sprinkle in some true believers and you have terrorists

its always been against what the US stands for but make no mistake our actions or comments from current or former POTUS Give fuel to their and other propaganda its a comprehensive package

and Anyone who thinks Trump has no impact or is the cause haven't been paying attention the last 25 years

[Nebe]

I think the largest thing going for isis is that these guys have zero chances at prosperity on their own right now. Everything has gone to #^&#^&#^&#^& over there and then this entity rolls through the land like a black cloud that says you are going to join us or we are going to kill you and your family. But if you join us, we will feed you, pay you and hook you up with a woman.

It's like the wetsuiters who took over montauk surfcasting.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Nebe

I think the largest thing going for isis is that these guys have zero chances at prosperity on their own right now. Everything has gone to #^&#^&#^&#^& over there and then this entity rolls through the land like a black cloud that says you are going to join us or we are going to kill you and your family. But if you join us, we will feed you, pay you and hook you up with a woman.

It's like the wetsuiters who took over montauk surfcasting.
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if you have people employed able to feed their family's and have a decent life . you reduce the allure of theses groups

but some one comes along and telsl them some one else is taking their jobs pay them min wage deny they healthcare. and everyones against Christians . oh wait thats America

[Nebe]

Originally Posted by wdmso

if you have people employed able to feed their family's and have a decent life . you reduce the allure of theses groups

but some one comes along and telsl them some one else is taking their jobs pay them min wage deny they healthcare. and everyones against Christians . oh wait thats America

😂😜😜😜😂
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[JohnR]

Originally Posted by wdmso

if you have people employed able to feed their family's and have a decent life . you reduce the allure of theses groups

but some one comes along and telsl them some one else is taking their jobs pay them min wage deny they healthcare. and everyones against Christians . oh wait thats America

Oh, sure this is so tightly relative (/sarc). Significant difference between where we are and where they are.

SO while you hit on some key points, it is of course, all America's fault.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Oh, sure this is so tightly relative (/sarc). Significant difference between where we are and where they are.

SO while you hit on some key points, it is of course, all America's fault.

John if Americans can take credit for all thats right in the world we also need to take some responsibility for a lot of whats wrong in the world.. when we clearly had a hand in it ... That applies at home as well as abroad

I love my country and cheer her on when I think shes right and let it be know when I thinks shes wrong reguardless whos at the helm ..


100% no questioning devotion i'll leave that to North Koreans

[buckman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

John if Americans can take credit for all thats right in the world we also need to take some responsibility for a lot of whats wrong in the world.. when we clearly had a hand in it ... That applies at home as well as abroad

I love my country and cheer her on when I think shes right and let it be know when I thinks shes wrong reguardless whos at the helm ..


100% no questioning devotion i'll leave that to North Koreans

While I will always respect and appreciate your service for the country , you have an extremely liberal and hypocritical view of America and appear to find glee in posting anything , true or false that disrespects the current President . My observation is you have an extremely critical view of America and feel we do more harm than good in the world . Sad
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[detbuch]

and

Originally Posted by wdmso

if you have people employed able to feed their family's and have a decent life . you reduce the allure of theses groups

but some one comes along and telsl them some one else is taking their jobs pay them min wage deny they healthcare. and everyones against Christians . oh wait thats America

Then we should be expecting an American ISIS any minute now.

Oh wait . . . American terrorists are not driven by poverty or lack of healthcare. Like terrorists around the world (and like the defector in the video), they are driven by ideology.

[wdmso]

My point was How easy it is it is even in America to rally people with False Statement and fear.. with a selective message

We have domestic terror groups but ours donot normally kill people or cut off heads but they all share the same dynamic.. the pursuit of political aims.

1 Anti-abortion violence
3 Eco-terrorism
4 Terrorist organizations
4.1 Animal Liberation Front
4.2 Alpha 66 and Omega 7
4.3 Army of God
4.4 Aryan Nations
4.5 Black Liberation Army
4.6 The Covenant, The Sword, and the Arm of the Lord
4.7 Earth Liberation Front
4.8 Jewish Defense League
4.9 Ku Klux Klan
4.10 May 19th Communist Organization
4.11 The Order
4.12 Phineas Priesthood
4.13 Symbionese Liberation Army

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by detbuch

and

Then we should be expecting an American ISIS any minute now.

Oh wait . . . American terrorists are not driven by poverty or lack of healthcare. Like terrorists around the world (and like the defector in the video), they are driven by ideology.

American terrorists are not driven by poverty or lack of healthcare.

Not yet anyway ....

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

American terrorists are not driven by poverty or lack of healthcare.

[COLOR=S"RoyalBlue"]Not yet anyway ....[/COLOR]

So you're predicting that we are going to have an ISIS type terrorist group in America because someone, as you said, came along and told Americans someone else is taking their jobs pay them minimum wage deny their healthcare and everyone is against Christians?

Other than that health care has not nor will not be denied, Christianity is not founded on terrorism as Islam is, minimum wage is (erroneously) supposed to provide better income not deny it, and jobs have always gone to someone else who is willing to do them better or for less money . . . other than your BS characterization, why do you predict we will have an ISIS type terrorist movement in America?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Nebe

I think the largest thing going for isis is that these guys have zero chances at prosperity on their own right now. Everything has gone to #^&#^&#^&#^& over there and then this entity rolls through the land like a black cloud that says you are going to join us or we are going to kill you and your family. But if you join us, we will feed you, pay you and hook you up with a woman.

It's like the wetsuiters who took over montauk surfcasting.
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You are correct regarding the foot soldiers, the grunts. Those at mid-management and above, are often not poor. Bin Laden was from a comfortable family. They're not all illiterate sh*tkickers.