More red state Idiocy

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Yep spoken like a Time Machine conservative . Calling for a revolution

I knew you were disappointed that Jan 6th Failed you actually thought your dreams had come true ..

The 1776 Revolution already happened. And it has greatly been abandoned.

After that revolution was won, and a workable Constitution was created as the law to sustain it, the great bulk of American citizens were the body politic who were the "kind of people" who understood that it must be sustained. It took a good bit of time for the American citizen to be transformed into something else.

We now have enough Americans that mock that revolution, consider it an unjust impediment to some unformed path to universal equity. And one of the greatest obstacles to achieving the goals of that inchoate struggle is the notion of individual sovereignty. That is now a simplistic notion. This has also been a revolution. One that has transformed the American citizen into one who understands that the individual must submit to the superior wisdom and expertise of the benevolent state.

So, no, I was not disappointed that the Jan6 riot "failed." It was not a thing that could, in any way, succeed. It was, mostly, regressive, and I was disappointed that it happened.

Even though it was an ignorant attempt without a coherent goal, it did exhibit a sort of reckless spirit which, if it coalesced into an actual spirit of liberty which would not need an armed Revolution to succeed, but to grow into a movement to restore the actual liberties that we still, latently, possess.

That is still possible. A "revolution" would not be needed. Originalism, in a broad sense, if actually practiced, would be a starting point back to a future that has been interrupted by a Progressive wokeness that has infected American politics and culture.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

The 1776 Revolution already happened. And it has greatly been abandoned.

After that revolution was won, and a workable Constitution was created as the law to sustain it, the great bulk of American citizens were the body politic who were the "kind of people" who understood that it must be sustained. It took a good bit of time for the American citizen to be transformed into something else.

We now have enough Americans that mock that revolution, consider it an unjust impediment to some unformed path to universal equity. And one of the greatest obstacles to achieving the goals of that inchoate struggle is the notion of individual sovereignty. That is now a simplistic notion. This has also been a revolution. One that has transformed the American citizen into one who understands that the individual must submit to the superior wisdom and expertise of the benevolent state.

So, no, I was not disappointed that the Jan6 riot "failed." It was not a thing that could, in any way, succeed. It was, mostly, regressive, and I was disappointed that it happened.

Even though it was an ignorant attempt without a coherent goal, it did exhibit a sort of reckless spirit which, if it coalesced into an actual spirit of liberty which would not need an armed Revolution to succeed, but to grow into a movement to restore the actual liberties that we still, latently, possess.

That is still possible. A "revolution" would not be needed. Originalism, in a broad sense, if actually practiced, would be a starting point back to a future that has been interrupted by a Progressive wokeness that has infected American politics and culture.

Right back to 1860

At one point, the operatives laugh over needing “more Black voices for Trump.” Iverson also references their efforts to engage with Black voters.
“We ever talk to Black people before? I don’t think so,” he said, eliciting laughter from others in the room.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by detbuch

The 1776 Revolution already happened. And it has greatly been abandoned.

After that revolution was won, and a workable Constitution was created as the law to sustain it, the great bulk of American citizens were the body politic who were the "kind of people" who understood that it must be sustained. It took a good bit of time for the American citizen to be transformed into something else.

We now have enough Americans that mock that revolution, consider it an unjust impediment to some unformed path to universal equity. And one of the greatest obstacles to achieving the goals of that inchoate struggle is the notion of individual sovereignty. That is now a simplistic notion. This has also been a revolution. One that has transformed the American citizen into one who understands that the individual must submit to the superior wisdom and expertise of the benevolent state.

So, no, I was not disappointed that the Jan6 riot "failed." It was not a thing that could, in any way, succeed. It was, mostly, regressive, and I was disappointed that it happened.

Even though it was an ignorant attempt without a coherent goal, it did exhibit a sort of reckless spirit which, if it coalesced into an actual spirit of liberty which would not need an armed Revolution to succeed, but to grow into a movement to restore the actual liberties that we still, latently, possess.

That is still possible. A "revolution" would not be needed. Originalism, in a broad sense, if actually practiced, would be a starting point back to a future that has been interrupted by a Progressive wokeness that has infected American politics and culture.

that has been interrupted by a Progressive wokeness that has infected American politics and culture.


Silly rabbit the founders were progressives and I am sure if woke was a thing back then.

the English king and colonial loyalists would be referring to them as woke Rebels

You really need to up your game in the history of the world and it’s nations and governments .

And Get back to us when you find one that hasn’t changed since it’s creation
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

that has been interrupted by a Progressive wokeness that has infected American politics and culture.


Silly rabbit the founders were progressives and I am sure if woke was a thing back then.

the English king and colonial loyalists would be referring to them as woke Rebels

You really need to up your game in the history of the world and it’s nations and governments .

And Get back to us when you find one that hasn’t changed since it’s creation
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people who wanted to fight to the death for individual liberty and less taxes, you describe as woke, progressive liberals? people who fought so that the government would leave them alone, those are progressive liberals?

You’ve really got a keen intellect there. I mean that’s impressive logic.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

people who wanted to fight to the death for individual liberty and less taxes, you describe as woke, progressive liberals?

You’ve really got a keen intellect there. I mean that’s impressive logic.

More of your usual baloney and it’s comical since you support every authoritarian you can find and the one who imposed one of the the greatest tax increases.

The Trump administration imposed nearly $80 billion worth of new taxes on Americans by levying tariffs on thousands of products, which is equivalent to one of the largest tax increases in decades. Based on 2021 import levels and country exemptions, the tariffs amounted to a $52.6 billion tax increase in 2021.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

More of your usual baloney and it’s comical since you support every authoritarian you can find and the one who imposed one of the the greatest tax increases.

The Trump administration imposed nearly $80 billion worth of new taxes on Americans by levying tariffs on thousands of products, which is equivalent to one of the largest tax increases in decades. Based on 2021 import levels and country exemptions, the tariffs amounted to a $52.6 billion tax increase in 2021.
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now, we have the pleasure of hearing from the guy who said democrats ended slavery!

You’re right pete, that must be why prices of goods were so much higher when Trump was president than they are today.

is there some kind of low-IQ newsletter you subscribe to, or something?

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

now, we have the pleasure of hearing from the guy who said democrats ended slavery!

You’re right pete, that must be why prices of goods were so much higher when Trump was president than they are today.

is there some kind of low-IQ newsletter you subscribe to, or something?

Oh poor Dictim
You’ve confused yourself again.
Thinking that today’s Trumplican party is the party of Lincoln.

(At one point, the operatives laugh over needing “more Black voices for Trump.” Iverson also references their efforts to engage with Black voters.
“We ever talk to Black people before? I don’t think so,” he said, eliciting laughter from others in the room.)

Now tell me about corporate profits and stock buybacks.

Or change your alpha male, conservative ways and find peace as a liberal. Choose light, not darkness. Like the sun, the warmth is contagious.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Oh poor Dictim
You’ve confused yourself again.
Thinking that today’s Trumplican party is the party of Lincoln.

(At one point, the operatives laugh over needing “more Black voices for Trump.” Iverson also references their efforts to engage with Black voters.
“We ever talk to Black people before? I don’t think so,” he said, eliciting laughter from others in the room.)

Now tell me about corporate profits and stock buybacks.

Or change your alpha male, conservative ways and find peace as a liberal. Choose light, not darkness. Like the sun, the warmth is contagious.
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corporate profits and stick buybacks? wall street is a democrat entity now pete. If you don’t like wall street, look in the mirror.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

More of your usual baloney and it’s comical since you support every authoritarian you can find and the one who imposed one of the the greatest tax increases.

The Trump administration imposed nearly $80 billion worth of new taxes on Americans by levying tariffs on thousands of products, which is equivalent to one of the largest tax increases in decades. Based on 2021 import levels and country exemptions, the tariffs amounted to a $52.6 billion tax increase in 2021.
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IF we believe your “data”, a 52b tax hike is about, what, $150 bucks a year for each one of us.

current inflation is coating americans to spend between 5k and 10k more a year, to maintain their standard of living.

good thing it’s transitory.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

people who wanted to fight to the death for individual liberty and less taxes, you describe as woke, progressive liberals? people who fought so that the government would leave them alone, those are progressive liberals?

You’ve really got a keen intellect there. I mean that’s impressive logic.

Well Jim what would you call them ? you seem to have left that part out?

Your another one with not historical prospective at all. Absent of any intellectual credibility . And clearly can’t think on your own

If we view the Founding Fathers and the 55 framers of the constitution through the lens of the present, it is apparent that they would be considered progressive thinkers. The purpose of the formation of our democratic republic was to create a system of institutional alternatives to what was available at the time. A new way of living that had never existed before. It was a time in American history where human imagination and cooperation created new alternatives to the historical organization of economic, political, and social structures.


That’s America breaking away from England

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Your another one with not historical prospective at all.


Absent of any intellectual credibility .


And clearly can’t think on your own

just priceless.......

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by scottw

just priceless.......

The king of drive by’s returns Once again offering nothing to the conversation Not surprised