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hummy22 · 03-23-2006, 04:13 PM

I have been on this site religiously for the past 2 years and decided to give something back for the enjoyment of making my work day go by so fast daily....here's something that totally blew my mind http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...q=Loose+Change

hummy22 · 03-23-2006, 04:22 PM

sorry...but its about an hour and a half long...so watch when available

seabass · 03-23-2006, 09:31 PM

A real eyebrow raiser!

Skip N · 03-24-2006, 12:06 AM

Only skipped through and watched a bit. But it sounds like the idea behind this is that the US goverment was behind 9/11? Anyone who believes that should be sent to the nut house asap. Thats just flat out dissgracful and pathetic. I'd personally knock the teeth out of anyone who says the US was behind 9/11 and wanted to murder 3000 americans. Some people are just %$%$%$%$ed up i guess in the way they think

Katie · 03-24-2006, 06:01 AM

I've seen bits and peices of this before, it's rather interesting, but i'm not taking sides..I'm stopping at No Comment.

Slipknot · 03-24-2006, 06:20 AM

sounds like whoever made this is accusing the government of lying to us and covering things up. They want us to ask questions

I'm taking the same road as Katie

Skip N · 03-24-2006, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Slipknot

sounds like whoever made this is accusing the government of lying to us and covering things up. They want us to ask questions

I'm taking the same road as Katie

It's more than just accusing the Gov of maybe having some tips before 9/11 and didnt put the pieces together. I think the documentary is saying the US Gov carried out the attacks and not Al Queada...That's pitiful to make statements like that. And it pisses me off. Those wackos probably deny the Holocaust too....Just a bunch of idiots.

Moses · 03-24-2006, 11:10 AM

Charlie Sheen stirring up the pot......

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles...arliesheen.htm

JohnR · 03-24-2006, 01:01 PM

I haven't watched it and don't see the time coming anytime soon BUT for once I agree with Skip in that I just cannot see the US Government doing 9/11. The internal fights that would happen from those in the know would get the word out.

This isn't 24 or XFiles, Romper Room maybe, but not a conspiracy like this. Skip - if I say something that you don't like and you say your going to knock out my teeth, I expect you to carry out your intention

Slipknot · 03-24-2006, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip N

It's more than just accusing the Gov of maybe having some tips before 9/11 and didnt put the pieces together. I think the documentary is saying the US Gov carried out the attacks and not Al Queada...That's pitiful to make statements like that. And it pisses me off. Those wackos probably deny the Holocaust too....Just a bunch of idiots.

in that case, I think they have rocks in there head too.
that would be a very far reach, they'd need more than a mountain of evidence. We live a a whacked out world today

I'm not going to waste an hour and a half watching all of that.
Charlie Sheen must be an idiot too then

Pete_G · 03-24-2006, 01:29 PM

"Actor Charlie Sheen has joined a growing army of other highly credible public figures in questioning the official story of 9/11 and calling for a new independent investigation of the attack and the circumstances surrounding it."

highly credible public figure?!

Skip N · 03-24-2006, 09:55 AM

I'm taking sides. If you believe this you're an idiot! It's that simple. To sit back and say the US government killed 3000 Americans because they wanted to is shameful. You guys can believe all the nutty theries you want but in the proccess you make yourselves look like a bunch of morons. Hope ya like the nut house!

Newboater · 03-27-2006, 08:20 AM

Didn't have time to watch all the 'stuff' I stopped when the commentator said 'In 1945 a B-52 crashed into the Empire State Building'. B52 went operational in 1954. Guess that part was a working model?
Sarge

Mike P · 03-27-2006, 11:40 AM

Ah, yes, the old "east wind, rain" smoking gun that FDR knew about Pearl Harbor.

It doesn't fly because it rests on faulty assumptions. One, that FDR knew more about how the war would play out than his top admirals, and knew that aircraft carriers would be the strategic key to victory, and not battleships. That's why he ordered the carriers to sea but kept the battlewagons in port as sacrificial lambs, according to the conspiracy theorists. Except that King, and even Yamamoto who ordered the attack, still believed in the supremacy of the battleship.

Two, that he knew that Pearl was THE objective of the attack, and that the japanese had the ability to pull it off. They knew the Japanese were up to something, but went with the natural assumption that it would come in the Philippines.

Most importantly, what FDR really wanted was an excuse to get into it with Germany in Europe. Even in the days following Pearl, there was very little support for getting into it with the Nazis in the US. Then, Hitler did the unthinkable by actually honoring a treaty, and declaring war on us after we declared war on Japan. You'd have to believe that FDR knew ahead of time that Hitler was going to honor the only treaty he ever did--against the advice of most of his top commanders, by the way.

Nebe · 03-27-2006, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike P

Ah, yes, the old "east wind, rain" smoking gun that FDR knew about Pearl Harbor.

It doesn't fly because it rests on faulty assumptions. One, that FDR knew more about how the war would play out than his top admirals, and knew that aircraft carriers would be the strategic key to victory, and not battleships. That's why he ordered the carriers to sea but kept the battlewagons in port as sacrificial lambs, according to the conspiracy theorists. Except that King, and even Yamamoto who ordered the attack, still believed in the supremacy of the battleship.

Two, that he knew that Pearl was THE objective of the attack, and that the japanese had the ability to pull it off. They knew the Japanese were up to something, but went with the natural assumption that it would come in the Philippines.

Most importantly, what FDR really wanted was an excuse to get into it with Germany in Europe. Even in the days following Pearl, there was very little support for getting into it with the Nazis in the US. Then, Hitler did the unthinkable by actually honoring a treaty, and declaring war on us after we declared war on Japan. You'd have to believe that FDR knew ahead of time that Hitler was going to honor the only treaty he ever did--against the advice of most of his top commanders, by the way.

My grand-father-in-law was secretary of war Under FDR. Trust me on this...... They knew.

Raven · 03-27-2006, 07:24 PM

their ticket to ride.....

but i sense a JEDI mind trick

PI guy · 03-27-2006, 07:40 PM

I can't wait for the fish to show up!!!!!!!Anyone?!!?

spence · 03-27-2006, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Nebe

My grand-father-in-law was secretary of war Under FDR. Trust me on this...... They knew.

George Dern?

-spence

Nebe · 03-27-2006, 09:01 PM

harry woodring.. Also former govenor of kansas. He was fdr's right hand man when he was elected pres, and when the war broke out in europe, they did not see eye to eye about going to war if we were not attacked. ( he was anisolationist) FDR replaced him before pearl harbor, but they were still very close for many many years.

stripersnipr · 03-29-2006, 03:29 PM

With all the REAL issues in the world to concern oneself with this one is just a waste of time.

sok · 03-26-2006, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Strike_King

Let's hear back from the OP.Or is like a typical arsonist.Light the fire and then watch it burn

I think the word is "troll"