What another conspiracy theory debunked

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

After spending months falsely accusing Biden of wanting to abolish the police, Don Junior was on Fox "news" this morning saying his dad will "get rid" of the FBI in his next term.
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He would do well to get rid of some of the top folks in it and pare back some of its power to spy on American citizens.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

After spending months falsely accusing Biden of wanting to abolish the police . . .

After spending months falsely claiming that Trump never denounced white supremacy, Biden's got nothing good coming.

[Pete F.]

Good people on both sides🤡
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Good people on both sides🤡

There were. And he wasn't talking about neo-Nazis or white supremacists. And it was the lie that he was that Biden said got him into the race. Biden is as persistent a liar as you. Some left wing rag needs to pore through the records and count how many "lies" Biden has said. Probably enough to fill the pages of "War and Peace".

[Pete F.]

Trump’s recycled 2016 attacks he used on Hillary have failed to effectively damage Biden

And the president has found himself dwelling more and more in the conservative media echo chamber - talking to an increasingly smaller portion of the electorate
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[Pete F.]

Now do Covita’s kids

The three of them STOLE from their own charity.

They had to pay a $2 million settlement!

They had to take CLASSES to learn how NOT to steal from your own charity.

They F’d over veterans & kids with cancer.

And all of that is proven, no Russian agitprop
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[Pete F.]

Imagine if Hunter Biden had been caught accepting 41 trademarks from China in the midst of trade negotiations that sent farm bankruptcies soaring to levels not seen since the 80s, forcing US taxpayers to pay tens of billions in bailouts. That would be bad.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Imagine if Hunter Biden had been caught accepting 41 trademarks from China in the midst of trade negotiations that sent farm bankruptcies soaring to levels not seen since the 80s, forcing US taxpayers to pay tens of billions in bailouts. That would be bad.

Director of national intelligence said of the Hunter Biden emails:
“Hunter Biden’s laptop is not part of some Russian disinformation campaign,” . . .“This is not part of some Russian disinformation campaign.”

Ratcliffe said the claims of Russian disinformation are “simply not true.”

He said the laptop is “in the jurisdiction of the FBI” and the Bureau’s investigation “is not centered around Russian disinformation and the intelligence community is not playing any role with respect to that.”

“Let me be clear: the intelligence community doesn’t believe that because there is no intelligence that supports that. And we have shared no intelligence with Adam Schiff, or any member of Congress.”

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

He said the laptop is “in the jurisdiction of the FBI” and the Bureau’s investigation “is not centered around Russian disinformation and the intelligence community is not playing any role with respect to that.”

Why would the DNI be answering questions about the FBI that the FBI wouldn't even answer?

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

Why would the DNI be answering questions about the FBI that the FBI wouldn't even answer?

The FBI’s intelligence activities are overseen by the Director of National Intelligence. What question are you referring to?

[Pete F.]

Your regular reminder that, by law, the DNI is supposed to be a career Intelligence Community civil servant.

The current DNI is a partisan hack who has never worked a day in the Intelligence Community.

Trump was impeached for abusing his office to slime Joe Biden. And, what, exactly is Trump, with an assist from DNI Ratcliffe, Fox News, and others, doing RIGHT NOW? Oh.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Your regular reminder that, by law, the DNI is supposed to be a career Intelligence Community civil servant.

Would you cite this law? I could only find that he is appointed by the President with the confirmation of the Senate. Which is what happened.

The current DNI is a partisan hack who has never worked a day in the Intelligence Community.

From what is being exposed about the intelligence community, it appears to have been a sort of corrupt swamp at the top.

Trump was impeached for abusing his office to slime Joe Biden. And, what, exactly is Trump, with an assist from DNI Ratcliffe, Fox News, and others, doing RIGHT NOW? Oh.

Oh. Sliming a politician is what politicians always do. That's not what he was impeached for. You keep making stuff up.

And what are the leftist press and social media doing RIGHT NOW? Oh . . . what they always do . . . attempt to mock,"debunk," suppress and destroy information that hurts their guy.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Oh. Sliming a politician is what politicians always do. That's not what he was impeached for. You keep making stuff up.

And what are the leftist press and social media doing RIGHT NOW? Oh . . . what they always do . . . attempt to mock,"debunk," suppress and destroy information that hurts their guy.

1. The fact that the DNI is abusing all instruments of his power and serving as a trump campaign surrogate is a metaphor for how Trump has treated intelligence from day 1: as PR material.

That’s not just un-intelligent it’s dangerous.

2. Why you may ask? Well for starters we have no reason to believe that the DNI is forthcoming about threats / assessments that don’t jibe w Trump’s political needs. Censoring intel to assuage Trump’s ego means policy makers and the public may not get a full picture.

3. Plus he has trumped up material that suits Trump’s TPs - even when it should have a Russian warning label attached.

4. Collection priorities may be skewed toward what Trump needs for his campaign machine vs what we need to keep us safe

5. And assessments that don’t match Trump’s spin machines needs may be censored or neutered.

6. The DNI talking about politics is just a signal to the world that all “intel” has a political filter permanently applied under this President.

7. Our intel partners probably don’t trust Ratcliffe bc he’s looks like Trump’s political errand boy - they won’t want to put their own sources and methods at Risk

8. Our adversaries likely think if they can put out “Intel” that suits Trumps campaign needs Ratcliffe will release it / elevate it even if it’s part of a disinfo attack

9. This gross politicization of intel could turn off qualified Americans from applying to serve in the IC. And it could lead existing IC personnel to leave.

10. It appears that Ratcliffe doesn’t care about the adverse effects he’s having on our country’s security.

11. How unpatriotic can you get?

12. A DNI should not be using the media to do the President's political errands.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

1. The fact that the DNI is abusing all instruments of his power and serving as a trump campaign surrogate is a metaphor for how Trump has treated intelligence from day 1: as PR material.

That’s not just un-intelligent it’s dangerous.

2. Why you may ask? Well for starters we have no reason to believe that the DNI is forthcoming about threats / assessments that don’t jibe w Trump’s political needs. Censoring intel to assuage Trump’s ego means policy makers and the public may not get a full picture.

3. Plus he has trumped up material that suits Trump’s TPs - even when it should have a Russian warning label attached.

4. Collection priorities may be skewed toward what Trump needs for his campaign machine vs what we need to keep us safe

5. And assessments that don’t match Trump’s spin machines needs may be censored or neutered.

6. The DNI talking about politics is just a signal to the world that all “intel” has a political filter permanently applied under this President.

7. Our intel partners probably don’t trust Ratcliffe bc he’s looks like Trump’s political errand boy - they won’t want to put their own sources and methods at Risk

8. Our adversaries likely think if they can put out “Intel” that suits Trumps campaign needs Ratcliffe will release it / elevate it even if it’s part of a disinfo attack

9. This gross politicization of intel could turn off qualified Americans from applying to serve in the IC. And it could lead existing IC personnel to leave.

10. It appears that Ratcliffe doesn’t care about the adverse effects he’s having on our country’s security.

11. How unpatriotic can you get?

12. A DNI should not be using the media to do the President's political errands.

This is all your piled on conjecture and accusation.

[Pete F.]

Google is easy

50 U.S.C. § 403-3a
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Google is easy

50 U.S.C. § 403-3a

That doesn't say, as you claimed, that he must be a "career Intelligence Community civil servant." It does say he should have extensive intelligence experience, which he doesn't seem to have, but the Senate was satisfied that he did. In any event, he would know what the intel says about the emails.

[Pete F.]

The Trumplican Senate confirmed him, afraid of San angry tweet from the head victim.
Notice that they are now starting to claim they secretly disagreed with him.
Worse than rats
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

The Trumplican Senate confirmed him, afraid of San angry tweet from the head victim.
Notice that they are now starting to claim they secretly disagreed with him.
Worse than rats
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if the democrats and the media had evidence it was a russian plot, that would prove that the head of NI is lying. so what aren’t any of them sharing any of the evidence?

here’s biden spokesperson saying that no one on the campaign is saying the emails are inauthentic. the campaign doesn’t have to say that. democrats and the media are saying it for them.


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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

if the democrats and the media had evidence it was a russian plot, that would prove that the head of NI is lying. so what aren’t any of them sharing any of the evidence?

here’s biden spokesperson saying that no one on the campaign is saying the emails are inauthentic. the campaign doesn’t have to say that. democrats and the media are saying it for them.

Again, they use the "just say it" method. Just saying it is the proof. And when you can combine that with the "kill the messenger" ploy, that's a double whammy faux proof.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

if the democrats and the media had evidence it was a russian plot, that would prove that the head of NI is lying. so what aren’t any of them sharing any of the evidence?

here’s biden spokesperson saying that no one on the campaign is saying the emails are inauthentic. the campaign doesn’t have to say that. democrats and the media are saying it for them.


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Classic blame the media.. burden of proof jim you have none and haver never had any.. yet we have lots of proof the man who runs the post gave trump campaign 75mil
We know Giuliani has been feeding Trump with russian supplied info.. seems these emails as well. But i get it by any means nessarary, honor decency respect eithic once were republicans ideals .. not any more i guess what Obama said was spot on they cling to religion ( minus it teachings. You've showedus that. )and guns.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Classic blame the media.. burden of proof jim you have none and haver never had any.. yet we have lots of proof the man who runs the post gave trump campaign 75mil
We know Giuliani has been feeding Trump with russian supplied info.. seems these emails as well. But i get it by any means nessarary, honor decency respect eithic once were republicans ideals .. not any more i guess what Obama said was spot on they cling to religion ( minus it teachings. You've showedus that. )and guns.
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wayne, are you denying that the media is saying this is a russian hoax? that’s whet they’re saying. and there’s zero evidence. zip.
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

wayne, are you denying that the media is saying this is a russian hoax? that’s whet they’re saying. and there’s zero evidence. zip.
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Keep the deflection going ... So again you have no issue with Trump suggesting Barr should arrest Biden?

Or Fox News and Senator Ron Johnson (R-WI) for suggesting without evidence that a laptop allegedly belonging to Hunter Biden contained child pornography.

Like i said they've Republicans and apparently you as well have abandoned any moral high ground and self respect and have gone all in on conspiracy theories its all they have.. 😥
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[Pete F.]

Well emails worked last time, why not try that again
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Well emails worked last time, why not try that again
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Apparently, there are more coming out soon.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Well emails worked last time, why not try that again
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again, biden’s campaign is t saying it’s not hunters laptop, they aren’t saying the emails aren’t authentic.

does it suggest anything tonyou that the media and elected democrats are saying it’s a russian smear campaign, worth zero evidence?

you whine that we’re saying emails again. no can whine that your side is playing the russia card again, can’t i?

what’s the evidence that this is russian smear?
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[Pete F.]

Besides, this is the reality: Tweety has lost all contact with reality. He is consumed by paranoia, rage, fear, and a massive feeling of failure so anything goes.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Besides, this is the reality: Tweety has lost all contact with reality. He is consumed by paranoia, rage, fear, and a massive feeling of failure so anything goes.

Actually, this is more like projection than reality.

[Pete F.]

The problem for the GOP going forward is not Trump. Keep this in mind, a large majority of Trumplicans: don’t believe in evolution, don’t believe in climate change caused by human activity, support a ban on Muslims, and believe Christianity should be America’s national religion.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

The problem for the GOP going forward is not Trump. Keep this in mind, a large majority of Trumplicans: don’t believe in evolution, don’t believe in climate change caused by human activity, support a ban on Muslims, and believe Christianity should be America’s national religion.
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i guess that explains why republicans never win any elections.
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[Pete F.]

Giuliani: Even if Hunter Laptop Story ‘Isn’t Accurate,’ Americans ‘Are Entitled to Know It’

So when they shout "fake news" at a story, they're really acknowledging that they want in on the action.
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