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did you really think it was gonna turn around in 60 something days? i don't understand all the hate on this guy, i mean come on it took 6 years to get into this mess... and what are is everyone going to say when it turns around???
did you really think it was gonna turn around in 60 something days? i don't understand all the hate on this guy, i mean come on it took 6 years to get into this mess... and what are is everyone going to say when it turns around???
The Bush/Obama plan is borderline criminal IMO. If a Republican had added the kind of dept this guy has in 60 days you would be calling for his head.
The Bush/Obama plan is borderline criminal IMO. If a Republican had added the kind of dept this guy has in 60 days you would be calling for his head.
We just did have a Republican running up this kind of debt and I don't remember anyone being too happy about it.
Obama's debt is pretty huge, but I think some of this can be justified due to economic circumstances and some can't.
Imagine if we elected McCain instead of Bush in 2000 over Gore. We probably wouldn't have had the prescription drug plan or the Iraq war. The budget would likely have been in much better shape and left America much better prepared to deal with the Global recession. Obama wouldn't have had a chance against Republican opposition.
Give him more time?
I couldnt find the youtube, but here is the transcript - look at what the HArvard Law professor had to say about salaries-
STEVE KROFT:
And now I think there are a lot of people say, "Look, we're not going to be able to keep our best people. They're not going to stay and work here for $250,000 a year when they can go work for a hedge fund, if they can find one that's still (LAUGHTER) working—
BARACK OBAMA:
I've told them directly. 'Cause I've heard some of this. they need to spend a little time outside of New York. Because— you know, if you go to North Dakota, or you go to Iowa, or you go to Arkansas, where folks would be thrilled to be making $75,000 a year— without a bonus, then I think they'd get a sense of why people are frustrated.
Huh? The President of the United STates is comparing the salaries of New York, Boston and San Francisco and saying, well you shold see what the make in ARKANSAS, IOWA and NORTH DAKOTA???????
That because MORON, the people who can do the job and get paid more money MOVE OUT OF AKANSAS, IOWA and NORTH DAKOTA!!! The market drives salaries. Whats the cost of living in Manhattan vs. ANYWHERE in North Dakota? I dont think I ever heard a more ignorant comment by a presidnet in my life.
And the Patriot act scared you? Wheres code pink when you need them?
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner will push for unprecedented new regulatory powers on Tuesday to seize financial institutions whose failure would pose serious risks to the U.S. financial system, according to two senior administration officials.
Huh? The President of the United STates is comparing the salaries of New York, Boston and San Francisco and saying, well you shold see what the make in ARKANSAS, IOWA and NORTH DAKOTA???????
That because MORON, the people who can do the job and get paid more money MOVE OUT OF AKANSAS, IOWA and NORTH DAKOTA!!! The market drives salaries. Whats the cost of living in Manhattan vs. ANYWHERE in North Dakota? I dont think I ever heard a more ignorant comment by a presidnet in my life.
Good lord, have you hit the bottle already this morning?
Obama is simply stating that a big reason for the populist rage is precisely because the economies of scale on pay are so different.
People leave Iowa not necessarily to make more money, but because if you want to work in finance there are very few jobs to begin with.
It's like you're not even thinking about this stuff before you post it.
Good lord, have you hit the bottle already this morning?
Obama is simply stating that a big reason for the populist rage is precisely because the economies of scale on pay are so different.
People leave Iowa not necessarily to make more money, but because if you want to work in finance there are very few jobs to begin with.
It's like you're not even thinking about this stuff before you post it.
-spence
Spence, you're getting to the point of not even warranting a reply.
Yep, Obamas is right, them there city slickers should get out in the countree and see howz us simple folks live! I reckon 75 thousands dollars would be me one of them big ole screen teevees, I reckon. Good thing I got mee guns and mee religion to cling too, yes suh!
Spence, you're getting to the point of not even warranting a reply.
Yep, Obamas is right, them there city slickers should get out in the countree and see howz us simple folks live! I reckon 75 thousands dollars would be me one of them big ole screen teevees, I reckon. Good thing I got mee guns and mee religion to cling too, yes suh!
Wow, that brings up memories growing up in Iowa.
My father (who designed one of the first avionics computers before he became an aerospace executive) used to come home from work and count my teeth. If I didn't loose more than one that day I got to keep my rock candy from the pharmacy we'd visit once a month.
Even highly skilled white collar jobs in some states don't earn a lot of money. When I started out of college in 1994 I was doing 3D computer animation for very profitable litigation cases and earned $20,000 a year. Even today $75 grand with a low cost of living is a lot of money and more than most people in the Mid-west outside of cities earn. When you live in Manhatten there is so much money around you the notion of earning millions, or tens of millions seems commonplace.
nice try,
notice Obama puts the burden on the people in NYC , why not EDUCATE the public? Why not explain the high demand for these professionals, the milions of workers in these industry that had nothing to do with the crisis, the millions of workers that are managing pension funds and humanity funds so that your grandparents get monthly pay? The thousnads of technology workers that are leading the world in development of client service.
See Spence, he cant do that, he cant highlight successful people, then his base will say "Hey, you mean I still have to work to be succesful under Obama"?
He cant be seen siding with "The MAn"
Everything he has done since taking office is to SCREW hard working people who get paid well.
nice try,
notice Obama puts the burden on the people in NYC , why not EDUCATE the public? Why not explain the high demand for these professionals, the milions of workers in these industry that had nothing to do with the crisis, the millions of workers that are managing pension funds and humanity funds so that your grandparents get monthly pay?
Because that wasn't the context of the comment.
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See Spence, he cant do that, he cant highlight successful people, then his base will say "Hey, you mean I still have to work to be succesful under Obama"?
He cant be seen siding with "The MAn"
Everything he has done since taking office is to SCREW hard working people who get paid well.
That's not the point.
The comments you posted were comparing the average Joe in the Midwest to the top people earing hugh salaries in the financial industry, the people who are making millions regardless if they're successful or not and having the taxpayer (i.e. the average Joe in the Midwest) bail them out, and about Obama (being president) having to reconcile the situation.
What exactly has Obama done to screw people that get paid well? Let's see, he's decided not to extend some of Bush's tax cuts that are set to expire next year. Hmmm, were these people getting screwed under Clinton, because as I remember they seemed to be doing quite well.
In some people's opinion, not extending tax cuts is no different than saying you're going to raise tax cuts. While I disagree with this idea, there are many delusional folks who don't get the difference.
Bush's tax cuts benefited the wealthy more than the middle-class worker. I disagreed with the tax cuts then and still feel they *helped* (noticed I didn't say "caused") put us into the situation we are in today. The country went to war which bears a massive amount of expense, and at the same time he cut taxes?
The comments you posted were comparing the average Joe in the Midwest to the top people earing hugh salaries in the financial industry, the people who are making millions regardless if they're successful or not and having the taxpayer (i.e. the average Joe in the Midwest) bail them out, and about Obama (being president) having to reconcile the situation.
What exactly has Obama done to screw people that get paid well? Let's see, he's decided not to extend some of Bush's tax cuts that are set to expire next year. Hmmm, were these people getting screwed under Clinton, because as I remember they seemed to be doing quite well.
-spence
you need to read the question/answer again, your twisting the context.
So today's economy is equivalent to under Clinton?
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