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I would have thought you guys would have been all over this. Every statement, deed, action by Obama is dissected here yet someone who sexually harrasses 2 woman gets a pass! How about his flip flopping on whether he remembered that incident and if there was a settlement (I thought he was a hands on, take charge CEO)? And how about Rush and Ann's pulling the race card - I think I saw she even pulled out the "High tech lynching" line.
I would have thought you guys would have been all over this. Every statement, deed, action by Obama is dissected here yet someone who sexually harrasses 2 woman gets a pass! How about his flip flopping on whether he remembered that incident and if there was a settlement (I thought he was a hands on, take charge CEO)? And how about Rush and Ann's pulling the race card - I think I saw she even pulled out the "High tech lynching" line.
nothing?
Obama is the president and Cain is one of 10 potential nominees so its a little different. I cant give him a pass or comment since there have been zero details released. We have no idea what the complaint gainst him was? Do you have info? I think the major criticism is that he changed his story in a matter of a few hours, pretty lame performance and I think it will hurt him. very few think he has a chance anyway. Did you hear his two different takes on abortion - it was hilarious, he made no sense.
I dont think this rises to the level of John Edwards banging his staff and having an illegimate child while his wife battled cancer but who am I to say. Did you see Perry's speech in new hampshire? Guy was giddy, pretty funny and much more interesting than Cain.
Obama is the president and Cain is one of 10 potential nominees so its a little different. I cant give him a pass or comment since there have been zero details released. We have no idea what the complaint gainst him was? Do you have info? I think the major criticism is that he changed his story in a matter of a few hours, pretty lame performance and I think it will hurt him. very few think he has a chance anyway. Did you hear his two different takes on abortion - it was hilarious, he made no sense.
I dont think this rises to the level of John Edwards banging his staff and having an illegimate child while his wife battled cancer but who am I to say. Did you see Perry's speech in new hampshire? Guy was giddy, pretty funny and much more interesting than Cain.
I don't have any more details than you but given that there was a settlement, I'm sure something happened more beyond his holding his hand up to his chin and saying something like your just as tall as my wife. It's hard to rank harrassment but Edwards certainly was as low as you can go. Good point about pres. vs. candidate. Yes, Perry's speech on $/gold and Cain's flip flopping on abortion were funny. I attribute both (and many other mis-statments by candidates/pres.) to the incessant round the clock media coverage.
Yes, Perry's speech on $/gold and Cain's flip flopping on abortion were funny. I attribute both (and many other mis-statments by candidates/pres.) to the incessant round the clock media coverage.
Come on Paul, lets be realistic and just agree on this...both Perry and Cain suck as canditates. It may be the one time we ever agree.
I think it will be Romney vs Obama and I will reluctantly pull the trigger on the R ticket just so I have the right to complain.
I haven't read an impartial article on the harrassment claims yet, but from the details, it seems like this could have been handled much better by Cain and his people.
The one article I read was from a conservative outlet, so I won't put too much stock in it. But if it's true, it's gonna be bad for him. He won't get the same passes (from voters, not the media) Obama got when he was running for pres.
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He couldn't be any firmer on his stance about abortion. He is against it, period. I think it should be a woman's right if she does or does not want abortion.
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So he is against it personally, but they must be legally available if it remains a women's choice. Most against it are against it, period.
I'm pro-choice, but not pro-'everyone get one'-abortion, whatever JimCT thinks...
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seriously? I guess you havent heard the John Stossel (sp) Interview? He flip flops mid sentence!
wtf...watch this!
Maybe I need a hearing aid, but I thought I heard him loud and clear,"he is pro-life," does not personelly believes in abortion. And government should not be involved with a womens wishes one way or the other.
Like I said I can care less if a woman wants one or not and I will add that as long as my taxes do not contribute to an abortion go ahead and have one.
Did you get a good look at Stossels eyes, were they diolated?
Maybe I need a hearing aid, but I thought I heard him loud and clear,"he is pro-life," does not personelly believes in abortion. And government should not be involved with a womens wishes one way or the other
so how can you be pro-life and then say the government should not be involved? Thats the very definition of pro choice!
A "womens wishes" equals her "choice"!
You are correct! Not my choice, not the governments choice, not the churches choice, not the devils choice, but, her choice alone.
A woman's belief could be pro-life before unknowingly becoming pregnant with an un-warnting fetus and may want to become pro-choice and decide to abort.
My question is, if she was blonde, how would she think??
The Dems didn't hold sexual impropriety against Bill Clinton, and they sure as hell didn't hold it against Ted Kennedy. So why do personal ethics matter only with GOP candidates? I'm sorry, but even i fthe claims are true (and that's a huge "if"), I don't feel like getting lectured about morality from the party that elects Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy. Unbelievable double standard.
The Dems didn't hold sexual impropriety against Bill Clinton, and they sure as hell didn't hold it against Ted Kennedy. So why do personal ethics matter only with GOP candidates? I'm sorry, but even i fthe claims are true (and that's a huge "if"), I don't feel like getting lectured about morality from the party that elects Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy. Unbelievable double standard.
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The Dems didn't hold sexual impropriety against Bill Clinton, and they sure as hell didn't hold it against Ted Kennedy. So why do personal ethics matter only with GOP candidates? I'm sorry, but even i fthe claims are true (and that's a huge "if"), I don't feel like getting lectured about morality from the party that elects Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy. Unbelievable double standard.
Someone who makes comments about woman's looks discussing morality is hilarious. I thought the repubs. where the party of morals?
Someone who makes comments about woman's looks discussing morality is hilarious. I thought the repubs. where the party of morals?
Who discussed women's looks?
God damn right we're the party of morality. So if genuinely righteous conservatives want to hold this against Cain, I'm fine with that. But when the party whose motto is "if it feels good, do it, and screw the consequences" suddenly gets selective about ethics, that's a double standard.
God damn right we're the party of morality. So if genuinely righteous conservatives want to hold this against Cain, I'm fine with that. But when the party whose motto is "if it feels good, do it, and screw the consequences" suddenly gets selective about ethics, that's a double standard.
Rachel Madow - a week or 2 ago. Cain's ratings and donations hit record levels right after this came out. Rush, Coulter and others came right to his defense. Where is the criticism from the Rebubs.? There is the double standard. I've always said both parties are the same but Scott doesn't think so.
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I'm sure that Paul has never made a comment about or discussed a woman's looks not that there's anything wrong with that
Not in a public forum just because I dislike her politics. You find a picture of Madow in a bikini that she posted, then she's open game.
I'm sure that Paul has never made a comment about or discussed a woman's looks not that there's anything wrong with that
Check out some old threads about Sarah Palin. I remember Paul making some comments about her looks. But it's different when it's a whack job Republican woman, so I guess it's doesn't count. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
Conservatism is not about leaving people behind. Conservatism is about empowering people to catch up, to give them tools at their disposal that make it possible for them to access all the hope, all the promise, all the opportunity that America offers. - Marco Rubio
Check out some old threads about Sarah Palin. I remember Paul making some comments about her looks. But it's different when it's a whack job Republican woman, so I guess it's doesn't count. Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device
Did I call her a dog, animal or something similiar?
Rachel Madow - a week or 2 ago. Cain's ratings and donations hit record levels right after this came out. Rush, Coulter and others came right to his defense. Where is the criticism from the Rebubs.? There is the double standard. I've always said both parties are the same but Scott doesn't think so.
Not in a public forum just because I dislike her politics. You find a picture of Madow in a bikini that she posted, then she's open game.
I didn't know you were talking about me...guilty as charged, Rachael Maddow is a repugnant beast, and a deranged hate-monger. I don't just dislike her politics...she is an intellectually dishonest, sniveloing coward who, like just about everyone else at that network, refuses to engage in smart people who disagree with her.
"Where is the criticism from the Rebubs.?"
Criticism for WHAT? Anonymous women who have made vague allegations? What should we do, lynch Cain on the spot?
The hypocrisy is glaring on the left, because if Cain was liberal, all the liberal jerks would be saying that he is presumed innocent. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson would be hysterical. Liberals are extremely selective about this presumption of innocence. For example, the Duke lacrosse players (rich white jocks accused of raping a poor black girl) were villified by those "tolerant" folks on the left, right off the bat.
The other hypocrisy is the liberal notion that Bill Clinton and Ted Kennedy were worthy of public office, but Cain is not? Have fun with that...
I thought the repubs. where the party of morals?
not that there's anything wrong with that
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