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Slipknot · 07-28-2007, 02:51 PM

just got back from the meeting and they had 3 articles to cover.
Mr.Macy will be happy to hear that the 2nd article was FOR the approval of the agreement the selectmen made with the tribe for a casino and money involved, there were 2300 for and one thousand something against

The agreement could have been written much better in my opinion and many others, and to more benefit of the town had they not rushed the thing thru. I don't see what the rush was anyway other than the elections are coming up soon. The issue in my mind should have been a question on a ballot for the whole town to vote on, not just those able to bear the sun and heat.

this is not a good thing for this town that has enough trouble balancing it's budget, they seem to be 6 million short constantly and that 7 million we will get will be eaten up long before the first quarter is placed in any slot machine

The town got famboozled.
I don't think that the federal goverment is even taking any applications for land granting anyway, so why the rush in the first place?

The 3rd article asked the question - does the town want a casino. the vote was clearly a resounding no. But this has no bearing on anything, except maybe Gary Marshall from the tribe got his answer that the town does not want a casino and if he is true to his word, they will go away. fat chance on that one

I guess lots of the yes voters left the meeting or others realize that the casino will be bad for the town.
Gambling is morally wrong.

that's all I got to say now

ProfessorM · 07-28-2007, 03:02 PM

Thanks Bruce for the update. I think they can put slots in no matter what the town or state says, like they did in Fla. , but in order to get a full Vegas style Casino it is going to have to be approved by the state and that is not a slam dunk. The NB standard Times did a great article last week on the ins and outs of the whole situation. This was todays paper
http://www.southcoasttoday.com/apps/...NEWS/707280325

Tagger · 07-28-2007, 03:06 PM

I was listening to the casino stuff on the radio driving to work today . They were saying how the traffic will have a negative impact on surrounding towns and they have no vote or say at all .. They were also talking about State gambling houses..Try to snatch all that $$$ away from the indians and thier investors . What do you think .. What year do you think the states first Ho House will be ..Progress .. Sometimes I long for an out house and a sears cataloge ..

Backbeach Jake · 07-28-2007, 03:35 PM

All That I know is from the news. The dollar quotes that I've heard = Middleboro is getting boned.

justplugit · 07-28-2007, 03:43 PM

Gambling, what a joke. When it was considered in Joisey, it was supposed to reduce taxes,

help defray the cost of education, help the elderly, and rebuild the infrastructure of Atlantic City.

Since it's inception, Joisey has an income tax, a 7% sales tax, a defecit in the teacher's pension fund

and Atlantic City looking like Hiroshima after the A bomb.

Was down for a boat show sitting at a counter having a cup of coffee next to a Philadelphia cop with tears in his eyes.

Guy was hooked, drove down every nite after his shift, in horrible debt loosing his family and everything he had.

A decent guy with prolly 100,000 others like him suffereing in some way or another.The people who can least afford it go,

including the enticement of the senior citizens with a free bus ride and a stipened to gamble.

Now they have tv adds for gamblers anonymous. The only winners are the casino owners and the people behind them.

If it sounds too good to be true it is.

But the herd will follow anyway, thinking that this time it will be different. Dopes.

Mike P · 07-28-2007, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by justplugit

Gambling, what a joke. When it was considered in Joisey, it was supposed to reduce taxes,

help defray the cost of education, help the elderly, and rebuild the infrastructure of Atlantic City.

I remember them saying the same thing about the Lottery when it first came out, back in the days when the NH Sweepstakes was the only legal lottery around. How's that worked out with the state getting all of the cut?

If they were really serious about people blowing their hard-earned cash, they'd cap Lotto purchases at $20. How often have you stood in line for 10 minutes at Cumbies while some guy who got out of a beat-up 87 Lumina with a R sticker blew $50 on numbers and scratch tickets?

People in debt? Something new? Before they had casino markers, they owed it to Louie the Nose. Every corner drug store or newspaper stand took action on what they called the "n-word pool", which was determined by reading down the hundred dollar column in the daily race track handle figures published in the Record-American. It took me years to find out why my uncles purchased the Record religiously even though they lived in RI. Many still owe a Shy, like the guys who want to bet sports.

Slingah · 07-28-2007, 06:48 PM

welcome to Las Boro.....
the last thing this state needs is legalized gambling ....

Slipknot · 07-28-2007, 07:30 PM

Like Bernzy sometimes says, be careful what you wish for, you might just get it. I hope the state can see the light and do the right thing.

Mike P · 07-28-2007, 09:28 PM

The state will "see the light" when the tribe comes up with a big enough share of the pie for Beacon Hill.

Them's better odds than they'll give you in the Big Wampum Teepee when it's up and runing.

Coupe Deval and the guy who runs the Lotto are just standing there with their hands out--mark my words.

mrmacey · 07-29-2007, 04:12 AM

Hmm! Your not going to like it.

The Town of Middleboro got the most lucrative deal an Indian tribe ever gave to a Host Town and now its up to the Town officials to do the right savings and spending to make it work.

The agreement is full of offshoot benifits to generate more $$.

The whole area will be able to generate from this, I feel the town should look for offshoot businesses to come in and generate a tax base off of them.

I feel Middleboro will be one of the richest communities around.

The one article that got voted NO Casino in Town was voted on after everyone was piling out of there to get out of the Heat only the Die Hard NO Casino people stayed to be heard on that they were heard got there say but nobody was listening LOL!!!!

The town spoke, Bruce you seen me and you know who I transported, I had 70-80 year olds that made it out to vote and made sure there vote was heard.

I give them and every other person that stood on that sweltering field the upmost respect I applaued you all.

I do not want to hear from the people that stayed home when I seen and witnessed the people who should have stayed home board my buses and make it too the meeting They knew the importance of this meeting and they made it.

Now the arm chair quaterbacks will try and voice there opinions saying it was unfair I couldnt go BULL! tell that to the elderly folks I transported I think you will be talking to Deaf ears!

The Town has spoke lets move on to the State level when the indians hit them off with there cut Legalized gambling Casinos will be popping up everywhere not just Middleboro.

In closing Mr Cahill has no say in this. He should have been Fired in my opinion for his "Blunder of it all" $20.00 scratch ticket people are not as Dumb as people think.

The Town Voted for the future maybe kids will be able to Play there sports again and Bruce maybe you will be able to buy Dungarees in Middleboro again.

I never knew until this you could not buy clothes in Middleboro you had to come to Raynham Or Taunton to shop for Clothes.

For those that want out of Middleboro I have a nice raised ranch for sale $299.900 live in Raynham.

mrmacey · 07-29-2007, 04:28 AM

Slipknot · 07-29-2007, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by mrmacey

The one article that got voted NO Casino in Town was voted on after everyone was piling out of there to get out of the Heat only the Die Hard NO Casino people stayed to be heard on that they were heard got there say but nobody was listening LOL!!!!

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ya LOL, well you know I am NOT laughing out loud!

Mike, even if the town had a real town election yesterday and the question was on a ballot, I feel the results would have been much the same. the misinformed were tricked into believing that if the town doesn't accept the agreement that they would build the casino anyway and then we would get diddly squat. The pro casino people did a good job swaying people to their side with the help of the selectmen. If it passes all the things that need to happen, I hope a casino really does help this town, but I will believe it when I see it.
I grew up in Abington when there was no dept. store in town there either so I have no problem not being able to buy a pair of pants in town, it's not a big deal at all.Been here 19 years now, I have no plans to leave.

the selectmen cowtowed to the tribe and rushed this decision thru
they could have done WAY better for the town, it's NOT that lucrative believe me. There should have been more money for schools for one thing.

let me ask again, WHAT was the rush? they wanted to strike while the iron was hot and I have the sunburn to show that.

MAC · 07-29-2007, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Slipknot

let me ask again, WHAT was the rush? they wanted to strike while the iron was hot and I have the sunburn to show that.

Everystep of the way will be a push. Casinos don't make a nickle until the doors open. So look at it from the tribes point of view; A couple of months here, a couple of months there and now the casino openning is delayed 6 months to a year or maybe more.

The vote was just the first step in a long list of hurdles the tribe must overcome.

basswipe · 07-29-2007, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MAC

Everystep of the way will be a push.

The vote was just the first step in a long list of hurdles the tribe must overcome.

A perfect example of that was the casino proposed in West Warwick by the Narragansetts.That dragged on for a couple of years and in the end:
no casino.

mrmacey · 07-29-2007, 08:40 AM

Glenn Marshall answers question number one
by Tony Lawrence, correspondent*

7/28/07 Mashpee Wamapanoag Tribal Chairman Glenn Marshall spoke to residents of Oak Point last night. He was asked the question everyone is asking.

It was the very first question, from a woman who asked:

"Months ago you said if you were not welcome, you'd go somewhere else."

Casino opponents have insisted that a "no" vote will result in the tribe no building any kind of casino in Middleboro

Marshall replied that first, the vote is about the contract. But, he does feel welcome. He said he was welcomed by the police, the fire department, the school committee and a poll that said 67% of the community wants him to come. He then said:

"We do feel welcome. That's your answer."

Right from him The town made the right decision.

No More debate Lets go fishing.

BrianS · 07-29-2007, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by mrmacey

"We do feel welcome. That's your answer."

Right from him The town made the right decision.

No More debate Lets go fishing.

and soon he will be able to sell you $150 pairs of designer jeans!!!

Swimmer · 07-29-2007, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike P

The state will "see the light" when the tribe comes up with a big enough share of the pie for Beacon Hill.

Them's better odds than they'll give you in the Big Wampum Teepee when it's up and runing.

Coupe Deval and the guy who runs the Lotto are just standing there with their hands out--mark my words.

I agree with Mike on this and I'm sure everyone else does also. When all the corporations are in place that will do business with the casinos that are owned by the POLS or ah geez I mean the relatives

of the POLS, yes thats better, then the casinos will fly through any permitting process.

Something I heard the other day was that the Wampanoag were the first tribe to welcome white people to this country and the 563 tribe to receive recognition from the FEDS. Why do you think that is? My guess is our reps in Washington have upheld threcognition for along time. It should have been the first tribe to be recognized.

fishbones · 07-30-2007, 10:21 AM

"I feel Middleboro will be one of the richest communities around."

Mr. Macey, will you be moving to Middleboro to be part of this wealthy community? I realize that you are supporting it because it is good for your business, and I have no problem with you profiting from the casino. I just don't want to see a quiet little town like Middleboro becoming a dump.

There will definitely be a lot of money coming into the town, but I doubt anyone will confuse Middleboro with Dover, Newton or even Canton and Sharon. Residents will start putting their houses up for sale and getting out so they don't have to deal with all of the stuff that comes along with the endless riches a casino brings. When the market is flooded with housing inventory, the prices will go down and the lower prices will bring lower income buyers. Look what has happened in towns like Randolph when houses became too affordable. Crime went through the roof. As for this money helping the town out of a deficit, do you think this is really going be the answer? If the town is mismanaging their finances now, why would it get better with the casino? It will still be mismanaged. It's like a gambler who goes out and blows his paycheck at the track, then goes home and empties the savings account. Then, he goes back to the track and blows the rest of his money. Having more money to spend doesn't make you any smarter. I'm sure the town will find a way to waste this money on things that will not help the residents.

justplugit · 03-01-2014, 08:33 PM

New Jersey has just allowed the Casinos to bring gambling to the Web
offering it 24/7 over your computer or phone. Just what we need, another
easy way to get a family ruining vice ,like there is not enough addictions to
attract people.
Oh, but they do offer a problem gamblers toll free number.

Raven · 03-02-2014, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by justplugit

New Jersey has just allowed the Casinos to bring gambling to the Web
offering it 24/7 over your computer or phone. Just what we need, another
easy way to get a family ruining vice ,like there is not enough addictions to
attract people.
Oh, but they do offer a problem gamblers toll free number.

actually there are 3 toll free numbers DAVE
and depending on which one you choose

you can win a Vacation on Carnival Cruise Line
or you can win a trip to ride wild mudslides while drinking mudslides in Southern California with some wild beach blondes in bikini's

justplugit · 03-02-2014, 05:45 PM

Yes Rav, they are such a philanthropic group.

One Casino is actually offering $500 to start using their site.

What a country, just think, soon people will be able to wake up,
light up some weed, gamble right in your bed,go collect your freebees
and just hang out and become a useless piece of whatever.