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Old 01-13-2020, 10:05 PM   #1
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Bongino illustrates how deep state inures that FISA "mistakes" won't change

Probably too long for JohnR, but this guy is good.

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Old 01-14-2020, 01:19 AM   #2
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You lost me at deep state.
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Old 01-14-2020, 07:02 AM   #3
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spence, when Whitey Bulger essentially took over the Boston FBI office, everyone knew it was happening, but the DOJ leadership there was impotent to stop it. So they sent US Attorney Durham
there to clean it up. The US attorney for that office was Robert Mueller. When someone is that bad at their job, but instead of getting fired they get promoted all the way to Attorney General, how does that happen? could
that happen where you work? not at any place Iíve worked.
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Old 01-14-2020, 10:06 AM   #4
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You've been lost since Trump got elected. Deep state is just a label for the conglomeration of existing intel, criminal, and other, federal agencies. It's not some mysterious, unknown, secret cabal. Bongino was actually a part of "the deep state" for a while. The "deep state" actually is populated by mostly good, dedicated, patriotic employees who do important work to make the country secure. When a few at the top take it on themselves to decide who should be the President, they are a danger to the security of the nation, and they should be exposed, removed, prosecuted, and steps should be taken that it never happens again.

Bongino shows how the correction that is supposed to occur as a result of the Horowitz investigation may well be sabotaged. I wouldn't expect you to care about that because the Progressive media that you rely on didn't tell you about it. You know, the media that mislead you about who would 100% win in 2016, and who insisted that Trump was in Putin's pocket and "colluded" with Russia, and who consistently tie Trump to Nazis, racists, homophobes, mysogenists, etc., which supposedly makes him all of those things.

Bongino, and other non-Progressive alternative media predicted the Trump victory, as well as being nearly 100% correct about the "collusion" nonsense, pointing out many of the details that Horowitz found before Horowitz found them. He has been spot on re this stuff all the while the Progressive media were spouting nonsense.

So yeah, you're lost . . . led astray by biased reporting, commentating, and bad "deep state" actors.
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Old 01-14-2020, 11:31 AM   #5
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Bongino was criticized by former colleagues at the Secret Service for using his Secret Service background as part of his run for political office and for his claim of having secret information based on conversations he overheard in the Obama White House.[5][6][1] A former colleague criticized him for trying to use his proximity to President Obama in his political career: "He's trying to draw attention to himself and he's hijacking the Secret Service brand.
Bongino has frequently appeared on Fox News' opinion programming and InfoWars.

Its comical to see what you see as fake and factual.
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Old 01-14-2020, 12:48 PM   #6
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Bongino was criticized by former colleagues at the Secret Service for using his Secret Service background as part of his run for political office and for his claim of having secret information based on conversations he overheard in the Obama White House.[5][6][1] A former colleague criticized him for trying to use his proximity to President Obama in his political career: "He's trying to draw attention to himself and he's hijacking the Secret Service brand.
Bongino has frequently appeared on Fox News' opinion programming and InfoWars.

Its comical to see what you see as fake and factual.
OK, so you turn to your usual ad hominem attack on the messenger rather than discussing the message. You usually go to Wickipedia (which has a leftward slant) to find info on someone you don't know anything about (which is a testament to your usual ignorance of anything outside of the MSM that you depend on) and pick whatever seems to be a negative and report it as if that's all we need to know and therefor his message is not worth hearing or commenting on.

Oh . . . some former colleagues don't like him. Whoopie. That's true of about anybody who has strong views. Nor does that little, marginally significant factoid diminish what he is saying in this video (as well neither his many other opinions, statements, books, and articles). And the rest of the Wickipedia article doesn't paint him as unreliable or untrustworthy.

There are former colleagues in the service that don't dislike him, and probably feed him some of the info that allows him to CORRECTLY analyze "deep state" activities while others in the MSM get it wrong.

But you can't ever discuss these videos. You can only and pitifully try to discredit the messenger. You can't show how what he says is not factual. You can only, somehow, try to indirectly, and ignorantly, cast some picayune aspersions that you think takes the place of rational and factual conversation. Typical strategy of losers who can't win or even engage in an honest discussion.
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Old 01-14-2020, 01:27 PM   #7
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OK, so you turn to your usual ad hominem attack on the messenger rather than discussing the message.

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did you really expect anything different?
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