Ford's demands are out

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

She was her friend not her baby sitter
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nobody suggested she was her baby sitter

[PaulS]

Have the FBI investigate and they will all be under oath. Otherwise it's just he said she said.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Have the FBI investigate and they will all be under oath. Otherwise it's just he said she said.
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What will an FBI investigation really accomplish, in practical terms? The FBI investigated Clarence Thomas, found zero evidence he did anything wrong. Did the democrats and the media all get together and give him an apology? Nope. Anita Hill is all over the media, being asked what it was like to be a victim. They pretty much dismissed the FBI investigation because the outcome didn't serve their agenda.

What times we live in, I gotta tell you.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

What will an FBI investigation really accomplish, in practical terms? The FBI investigated Clarence Thomas, found zero evidence he did anything wrong. Did the democrats and the media all get together and give him an apology? Nope. Anita Hill is all over the media, being asked what it was like to be a victim. They pretty much dismissed the FBI investigation because the outcome didn't serve their agenda.

What times we live in, I gotta tell you.

Most of what A H and C T said dealt with he said she said. In this instance(s) there are other witnessess. One said he was there and it didn't occur but doesn't want to testify - well put him under oath. With the new person - some say they remember hearing about it that night or the following morning. Put them under oath and see if they are credible.

The Repubs are saying a vote needs to occur - why the self imposed deadline? There is no reason for a deadline for such an important position.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Most of what A H and C T said dealt with he said she said. In this instance(s) there are other witnessess. One said he was there and it didn't occur but doesn't want to testify - well put him under oath. With the new person - some say they remember hearing about it that night or the following morning. Put them under oath and see if they are credible.

The Repubs are saying a vote needs to occur - why the self imposed deadline? There is no reason for a deadline for such an important position.

you are smarter than this

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Most of what A H and C T said dealt with he said she said. In this instance(s) there are other witnessess. One said he was there and it didn't occur but doesn't want to testify - well put him under oath. With the new person - some say they remember hearing about it that night or the following morning. Put them under oath and see if they are credible.

The Repubs are saying a vote needs to occur - why the self imposed deadline? There is no reason for a deadline for such an important position.

"In this instance(s) there are other witnesses"

All of whom deny the accusations as far as I know.

"The Repubs are saying a vote needs to occur - why the self imposed deadline? There is no reason for a deadline for such an important position"

I agree, do an investigation, I just think it's a sham because if the FBI concludes he didn't do anything, it's not as if the liberals and the media are all going to admit he got screwed. None of them will admit that (you might, I mean the politicians and people on TV).

The reason for a deadline is that if he fails, they need to get someone else in before the midterms. If Trump makes another nomination, you can bet it will be that Catholic woman, can't recall her name. Feinstein hates her, Trump will pick her for that reason alone.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I agree, do an investigation, I just think it's a sham because if the FBI concludes he didn't do anything, it's not as if the liberals and the media are all going to admit he got screwed. None of them will admit that (you might, I mean the politicians and people on TV).

You don't know that but if an investigation occurs, then you can rightfully say "what more did you want to happen?"

The reason for a deadline is that if he fails, they need to get someone else in before the midterms. If Trump makes another nomination, you can bet it will be that Catholic woman, can't recall her name. Feinstein hates her, Trump will pick her for that reason alone.

Coney Barrett (I think)???

They don't "need" to get someone bf the midterms, they "want" to get someone before the midterms.

I thought it was they wanted someone before the start of the next supreme court session which I thought starts Oct 1??

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

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The reason for a deadline is ....

the reason for a deadline is lunatic democrats have no interest in fairness or process...they have organized from the beginning to prevent and ensure that Kavanaugh is never confirmed by any means necessary and will continue to do so if they are not stopped......censure feinstein, censure hiromo.... hold the vote....

[spence]

Come on, he’s done.
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

Come on, he’s done.
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You’d have fit in well in 1600’s Salem.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

You’d have fit in well in 1600’s Salem.
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You have two accusers now and Michael Avenatti claiming to have people stating much worse.

One of Kavanaugh’s good friends tries to pin it on another classmate potentially creating a defamation case.

This is a mess. Time for a mulligan.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

You have two accusers now and Michael Avenatti claiming to have people stating much worse.

One of Kavanaugh’s good friends tries to pin it on another classmate potentially creating a defamation case.

This is a mess. Time for a mulligan.
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you are embarrassing yourself

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

You have two accusers now and Michael Avenatti claiming to have people stating much worse.

One of Kavanaugh’s good friends tries to pin it on another classmate potentially creating a defamation case.

This is a mess. Time for a mulligan.
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You still, after 2 years, have no idea who's in the Oval Office. I mean if real evidence is presented, that's one thing. But Trump isn't going to want to withdraw his nominee, based on allegations that have zero supporting evidence, and a fair amount of contradictory evidence.

If an unsubstantiated allegation is enough to disqualify someone, then no one will ever get confirmed. The minority party, especially if it's the democrats, will always get someone to come forward.

It's also interesting to me, that apparently the state of MD has no statute of limitations on such a crime. If that's true (that's what I'm hearing), why isn't Ford asking the MD police to investigate, why is she limiting her storytelling to the political arena?

Then as far as Senate Democrats go, none of them is saying Keith Ellison must resign, so that shows you how sincere they are.

As for Fitgerald, the second accuser...the New York Times refused to run the story, because they didn't believe it. Case closed.

[Raider Ronnie]

Woman is supposedly raped or sexually assaulted and waits 30 years before she says a word 🤔
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[RIROCKHOUND]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

Woman is supposedly raped or sexually assaulted and waits 30 years before she says a word 🤔
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How many men waited 30 years after a priest diddled them to say a word?🤔
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[Got Stripers]

Originally Posted by Raider Ronnie

Woman is supposedly raped or sexually assaulted and waits 30 years before she says a word 🤔
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Ignorant! You either don’t care or are completely out of touch with the fear a young victom feels about coming forward.
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[Nebe]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Ignorant! You either don’t care or are completely out of touch with the fear a young victom feels about coming forward.
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He doesn’t care.
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[Raider Ronnie]

Originally Posted by Nebe

He doesn’t care.
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Don’t care ???
Do some research.
I’m one of the biggest haters of child molesters and have had no problem calling them out.
Go back in the archives and look.
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[Raider Ronnie]

Originally Posted by Got Stripers

Ignorant! You either don’t care or are completely out of touch with the fear a young victom feels about coming forward.
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Victims feelings ???
Both accusers (the 2nd one admitted it) they were so drunk they have no idea how they got there,who was there, when it happened etc.....,
The only certainty is both will have no problem remember to cash the check from Soros !
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[Pete F.]

Looking at the latest poll, by Fox, i would suggest that in the interest of the Republican Party Kavanaugh should withdraw.
Half of the voters would not confirm him currently and many say the hearings and votes will affect how they view their candidates.
If you only look at suburban women things get worse.
The political rebound from having him withdraw, saying we don't think he is guilty but yada yada yada it is the most important appointment and we need to have the right candidate etc. and nominating someone else will have positive effects on the voters most needed in the midterms.
Keep going down this rabbithole and nothing good will happen.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

i would suggest that in the interest of the Republican Party Kavanaugh should withdraw.

that would only encourage evil democrats to continue their evil ways

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

that would only encourage evil democrats to continue their evil ways

Exactly.

If there's real evidence, some serious evidence, then he should go away. I don't think they should do it based just on unsubstantiated allegations.

The same pollsters at Foxnews said Hilary was going to win big.

[Pete F.]

I think if they don't replace Kavanaugh, but ram him thru and Congress flips in the midterms, they will move to impeach Kavanaugh.........and Thomas
Then refuse to hold a hearing for any replacements

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

I think if they don't replace Kavanaugh, but ram him thru and Congress flips in the midterms, they will move to impeach Kavanaugh.........and Thomas

based on what?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

I think if they don't replace Kavanaugh, but ram him thru and Congress flips in the midterms, they will move to impeach Kavanaugh.........and Thomas
Then refuse to hold a hearing for any replacements

So to the liberals here, a mere allegation is enough? Do any of you remember Al Sharpton and the Tawanna Brawley case? Or the Duke lacrosse players?

Sorry, in these politically charged times, a mere allegation is nowhere near enough. If no additional evidence is presented, if all we know is what we now know, he's going to get confirmed.

There's a great chance the dems take the house, so they can make a big show of impeachment. Impeachment requires a two-thirds vote in the Senate, and that will never happen. Never.

Yes, I think the dems should vote to impeach Kavanaugh and Thomas, and explain to the voters why none of them even mentions the name "Keith Ellison".

Here's a fascinating, crazy idea. How about we talk about whether or not any of Kavanaugh's judicial rulings were wrong on the law, or constitutionally un-sound? Does that factor into this, at all?

Worst case scenario, if the withdraw Kavanaugh (hopefully not before more evidence comes to light), they'll nominate Barrett. There is no way that seat is vacant going into the midterms. If Jeb Bush was POTUS, maybe the democrats could bully him into waiting. Not this guy. They still, after two years, have absolutely no idea who they're dealing with. They think they can slap him around the way they did to Bush, McCain, Romney, etc. Trump isn't them.

[Fishpart]

Interestingly enough there is only one person in this case who has not testified under oath....THE ACCUSER

I hope this type of legal abuse never happens to you or your sons...

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Fishpart

Interestingly enough there is only one person in this case who has not testified under oath....THE ACCUSER

I hope this type of legal abuse never happens to you or your sons...

I know you usually make a post and then never come back to defend it when people question it but isn't the answer to have the FBI investigate as all parties will be under oath - right?

Is the abuse that someone makes a claim and people can have the FBI investigate it and yet they refuse to do it?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

I know you usually make a post and then never come back to defend it when people question it but isn't the answer to have the FBI investigate as all parties will be under oath - right?

Is the abuse that someone makes a claim and people can have the FBI investigate it and yet they refuse to do it?

Who is the "they" that refuse an FBI investigation? Who is it, that you think can tell the FBI what to do? That's on Trump. Kavanaugh doesn't have the authority to launch an FBI investigation.

If only Feinstein had bothered to mention this to the FBI when they were already investigating him.

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Who is the "they" that refuse an FBI investigation? Who is it, that you think can tell the FBI what to do? That's on Trump. Kavanaugh doesn't have the authority to launch an FBI investigation.

If only Feinstein had bothered to mention this to the FBI when they were already investigating him.

The Pres. can ask the FBI to investigate - but you knew that didn't you?

And you knew that Ford asked Feinstein not to release her name.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

The Pres. can ask the FBI to investigate - but you knew that didn't you?

And you knew that Ford asked Feinstein not to release her name.

I did know that, which is why I included it in my post. You said "they", I was sincerely curious who you meant by "they".

"And you knew that Ford asked Feinstein not to release her name"

yes, and I know that didn't stop the democrats from leaking her name to the press when it suited them. And I know that Feinstein could have asked them to look into the claim, without revealing the name, she could have said look into an allegation of assault from high school.