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12-13-2006, 04:50 PM
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Calling Jon The Fisherman
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Sox Bag D-Mat
They signed him and for 6yr 52M deal.... that's pretty low per year!
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12-13-2006, 04:54 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
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I am still hoping this deal falls through! This will come to be known as "Theo's Folly"! To pay this kind of money for an unproven talent who has ZERO major league experience is just ridiculous!!! Of all of the Japanese talent that has come into the league in recent years, only 2 have cut the mustard.....Ichiro Suzuki and Hidecki Matsui! I predict this guy falls on his keester and takes millions of the Sox dough with him!!! Bad, bad move! You will come to see my prediction is quite accurate!  |
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12-13-2006, 04:56 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
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Oh....and pretty low per year....add the $51,000,000 dollars they had to pay the Japanese team just to talk to him!!! So if they pay him 10,000,000 a year....add another 10,000,000 dollars to that.....its costing the Sox around $20,000,000 dollars a season for this "Great" pitcher!!!!!  |
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12-13-2006, 05:07 PM
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Somewhere the Bambino is laughing his a--- off at this .  |
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12-13-2006, 05:28 PM
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Calling Jon The Fisherman
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You guys are pretty negative people eh? Typical New Englanders... I agree that the posting price was astronomical, but I have watched a lot of his games and I think you're going to see that this guy is the real deal... we shall see.
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12-13-2006, 05:29 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
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Marketing only works if the guy pans out! (No pun intended)  |
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12-13-2006, 05:30 PM
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Calling Jon The Fisherman
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And when I say "low per year" I only say it b/c of Bore A$$ and his rep... Mat's no bargain... this deal will NOT fall though, not after the skanks signed Pet tit...
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12-13-2006, 05:30 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
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This could be a disaster for the Sox if they sign him and he flushes out! Not negative Dave just realistic! I think they could have better spent that kind of money!
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12-13-2006, 05:46 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
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Oh the "sheeple" here will gobble it up too!  |
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12-13-2006, 05:46 PM
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Calling Jon The Fisherman
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigFish
This could be a disaster for the Sox if they sign him and he flushes out! Not negative Dave just realistic! I think they could have better spent that kind of money!
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They key word is "could" he also "could" be a wonderboy... I think you'll see him somewhere in between... 16M for the washed up petitte or 19 for a young up and comer.... who knows... We should close this thread and re-open it in July... one of us will be sticking their foot in their mouth... might be me might be you   Only time will tell Larry-San  |
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12-13-2006, 05:48 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
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Dave....I for one hope you are right! If I am this will truely take years for the Sox to dig themselves out of the hole!  |
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12-13-2006, 05:50 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
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PS....that was stupid money the Yanks paid for Petite....what has he ever done??? Win a Cy Young award???? Big freakin deal.....try winning 2 or 3! I hard from a buddy of mine said the Sox are trying "again" to get Roger to come back....but he said it was contingent on whether they sign Datsu....ummmm....Dashe.....ahhhh.....on Dasher, on Dancer on Prancer and Vixen!  |
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12-13-2006, 06:04 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
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Just checked....I don't think Peteite ever won the Cy Young award? |
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12-13-2006, 06:21 PM
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Afterhours Custom Plugs
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this guy is special- for less than clement.
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12-13-2006, 06:41 PM
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The deal has NOT been made yet according to John Henry on WEEI late today, however, they all were flying back to Boston.
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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12-13-2006, 07:01 PM
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bf, you a sox fan?!? I thought all those feelings went away in 04. A 26 yo phenom almost in the fold and you are poo-pooing ALREADY? Have you seen him at all? Besides, after 04, I give them 10 years, for free. I don't care WHAT they do right now. Honeymoon's still on baby. It's the honeymoon with the Pats that will be coming to an end if they don't turn it around to make a decent postseason showing this year. btw, nesn just showed dice k going into mass general for the physical. Any minute now......
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12-13-2006, 07:02 PM
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I hope he comes to Boston, Put your name here please 
I am not paying him
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12-13-2006, 07:12 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
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You heard it here first! This is a bad move! You will all be singing the same song soon enough! For this kind of money he ought to be winning 20 plus games out of the box and he ain't gonna be!
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12-13-2006, 07:37 PM
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BigFish = Mr. Negative lately..All Boston teams suck...   |
I'm going where I'm going... 
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12-13-2006, 07:45 PM
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LETS GO BRANDON
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12-13-2006, 07:53 PM
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Ok ..I was wrong...All the time...  |
I'm going where I'm going...
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12-13-2006, 08:10 PM
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DDG-51
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Sure beats seeing him in pinstripes. And we got Mirabelli for another year!!
2007 THIS IS THE YEAR.  at least I hope it is.
Shilling
Becket
Papelbaum
D-Mat
Wakefield
Not a bad looking starting 5. I'm looking forward to the new year - Go Sox!! |
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12-13-2006, 08:14 PM
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Calling Jon The Fisherman
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I'm excited to see this kid pitch, damn the nay-sayers  ... and I like Peters take on it... Hey I'm not paying the kid.  |
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12-13-2006, 08:51 PM
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The glass is half full
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The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
1984 was a warning, not a guidebook!
It's time more people spoke up with the truth. Every time we let a leftist lie go uncorrected, the commies get stronger.
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12-13-2006, 09:07 PM
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I really like this deal. It is way better than the 11/6 that Boras had been originally seeking. If it is 52/6 as reported, that is like 8.66 per year. Considering Gil Meche, whose lowest ERA is 3.78, singed for 55/5, I think Matsuzaka is a steal at the price we paid for him (His HIGHEST ERA is 3.97 once and all others are lower than 3.6).
Lots of people will say, "Yeah, but we had to pay 52 million to post, so it is really, 104 million over 6 years or around 17 Million per year". However, to them, I have to agree with Boras. The Sox (and every other team) could have waited two more years and avoided posting that amount. And if he were a free agent this year, it is likely Dice-K would have negotiated a price WAY over 11 million per year. So we had to pay a little premium to get his services early, but in the long run it took money off the top of Dice-K's contract and ensured we wouldn't have to compete with other teams down the road.
So I say great deal!
I like the looks of that rotation VERY much! But I'm not sure how long Wake stays in the starting rotation. He has always been successful out of the pen and his back might not be completely healed. I wouldn't be too suprised to see Tavares getting turns in the rotation if Wake falters at all after Julian's late season success in that role last year.
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Originally Posted by fishsmith
Shilling
Becket
Papelbaum
D-Mat
Wakefield
Not a bad looking starting 5. I'm looking forward to the new year - Go Sox!!
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12-13-2006, 10:22 PM
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BigFish Bait Co.
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Lets talk at the All-Star break!  |
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12-14-2006, 06:10 AM
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Theo should be fired, this is a joke.
I don't like the D-Mat thing,a lot of things just don't make sense?
Bad move after bad move.
Bringing back Mirabelli a guy that can't hit his weight.
A personal catcher for a pitcher that stunk out loud last season.
Let alone the fact that they gave up a great young pitcher and catcher to get him.
I guess we will have to wait and see.
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12-14-2006, 08:03 AM
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Take a good look folks, this kid is the future of the Red Sox.
This is the best deal I have seen in a while from the Sox,
Best Or Bomb ... Everyone in the WORLD will be watching him and our RedSox team, With John Henry getting a % or the pie. Around the globe people will be waiting to see what his next pitch will be.
I am most happy because the Dam Yankees did not get him and we pulled the trigger first. They just plain Sux
And BigFish .... I hope you get a bobblehead of this kid before they are sold out  |
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12-14-2006, 08:21 AM
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Can someone tell me what other starting pitchers we could have signed? Not a lot out there. Zito? I don't consider him the answer. Did you look at the Free Agent list of pitchers this year.....terrible. At least they are TRYING to put quality pitching out there. would you guys like to go back to the Lou Gorman days......Only interested in you if you're over 40
If the front office doesn't do anything........ they Suck.
Everytime they do something ..........they Suck
It seems as Boston Fans are never happy unless they're bitchin about something. Christ, the Pats have won 3 of the last 5 superbowls and people are bitchin. Lets see what the kids got 1st.
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12-14-2006, 08:31 AM
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News this AM said they have made an offer to Rocket Rodger 
He can stay at home on his off days, but they want him to play 3/4 of the year not 1/2 like last year. We shall see
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