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03-19-2010, 06:57 AM
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Also known as OAK
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Westlery, RI
Posts: 10,349
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So....
Cites didn't pass.
this is a very good thing for many of us who fish for tuna recreational, charter and commercial.
Here is my question.
Everyone, including me, who was against the CITES listing, do you think that the tuna population is fine and status quo (as far as what we can enforce) is the way to go?
Unfortunately, they continue to over exploit in the Med and elsewhere, but I have an issue with the idea that just because we can't enforce them, we should do whatever we want... As a global pelagic fish, I don't see this as the last hurdle towards moving the stock forward as a healthy fishery.
What is the solution? Is there a problem?
I don't know. Just trying to start some dialog. Disclaimer: This is not meant to judge anyone or start any %$%$%$%$, just open some dialog.
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Bryan
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"For once I agree with Spence. UGH. I just hope I don't get the urge to go start buying armani suits to wear in my shop"
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03-19-2010, 01:27 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Newtown, CT
Posts: 5,659
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Well, If we consistently don't catch our quota, then ICCAT may take some of our quota away from us. So we are kind of forced to keep trying to catch our ICCAT quota. Where the work needs to be done is at ICCAT, where the quotas have to be lowered and there has to be some kind of penalty for nation that exceed their quotas. Locally there isn't much that we can do, since MSA is overridden when it comes to fisheries managed by an international body.
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03-19-2010, 04:09 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 629
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Iccat needs an overhaul.They treat bft as an unexpendable resource.Last year they wanted to give half the US quota to nations who could fill it.If the whole world believes bft are in trouble,why does the international agency charged with their conservation want to kill more of them?Eff Iccat!
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03-21-2010, 10:13 PM
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: Mansfield, MA
Posts: 5,238
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Doesn't matter. As soon as the public realizes that BFT is reported to have high PCB and mercury content, prices will fall and it won't be worthwhile for commercial guys to drop tens of thousands to fish for them. Then, there will be all the more fish for us recreational guys.  |
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03-22-2010, 02:03 PM
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M.S.B.A.
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: I live in the Villiage of Hyannis in the Town of Barnstable in the Commonwealth of MA
Posts: 2,795
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ICCAT will not be restructured as there is just toooooooo much controvers when it comes to international fisheries for enough countries to get on one page
The US can not bitch about over harvesting anything when we continued to overfish the %$%$%$%$ out of Cod for somehting like 15 years and when Canada shut down we laughed....not to mention what is going on with stocks like Sea Herring
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"It is impossible to complain and to achieve at the same time"--Basic Patrick (on a good day)
 
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03-22-2010, 02:52 PM
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Join Date: May 2008
Location: Mansfield, MA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BasicPatrick
The US can not bitch about over harvesting anything when we continued to overfish the %$%$%$%$ out of Cod for somehting like 15 years and when Canada shut down we laughed....not to mention what is going on with stocks like Sea Herring
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However, people can and have bitched about a terribly managed system here that is essentially impotent in how it enforces the pittance of regulation that does get knocked around. |
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03-24-2010, 06:54 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 7,649
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BP is right on Cod..IMO this should have been completely shut down for the past decade. Fishery managers are blind to reality. (BTW it was not the rec's who destroyed the cod fishing industry, or herring)
Frankly, I think some fishery managers in this country should be jailed for their non-protection of the species to only protect the income of the commercial fishermen. Makes me 
Tuna is complex because of their range. There is no way we can regulate Europe or anyplace else. We can only regulate ourselves (barely) and we do a poor job at this. There needs to be a global approach with HMS and there is none and most of the world does not want one and probably would not respect it even it it was created. Long term...Species is doomed. Catch all you can as soon as you can. Sad. but this has to be the new mantra.
Last edited by Mr. Sandman; 03-24-2010 at 07:01 AM..
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03-24-2010, 08:43 AM
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DDG-51
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 3,550
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Does the endless supply of dogfish have anything to do with cod stocks? ..... I can't wait for 4/16 .
As for the bft, same regs, but one fish per boat would be fine by me, that cuts the rec take.
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03-24-2010, 02:26 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Newtown, CT
Posts: 5,659
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fishsmith
Does the endless supply of dogfish have anything to do with cod stocks? ..... I can't wait for 4/16 .
As for the bft, same regs, but one fish per boat would be fine by me, that cuts the rec take.
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That's what it "normally" starts off at. Then NMFS ups the limit, because we aren't going to catch our quota, and if we don't catch our quota ICCAT may take some away. |
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04-25-2010, 02:55 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: On the ocean
Posts: 209
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I did try to cook a dog fish and it was useless and nasty. My grandfather like it but he like everything....... Fish and chips with it seems gross!
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