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Jim in CT · 07-09-2018, 08:40 PM

I wanted Barrett.

I'll take a guy educated at Yale who teaches law at Yale, Harvard (hired by Elana Kagan) and Georgetown. I like how he horsed around with his daughters during his speech. And I like his Catholicism. And I like the normalcy of a guy who finds time to coach his daughter's basketball team, where he is known as Coach K.

Let the war begin. Saw Corey Boker on MSNBC claiming that there was a 99% chance that we're all going to die if he gets confirmed. That's a slight exaggeration.

JohnR · 07-09-2018, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

I wanted Barrett.

I'll take a guy educated at Yale who teaches law at Yale, Harvard (hired by Elana Kagan) and Georgetown. I like how he horsed around with his daughters during his speech. And I like his Catholicism. And I like the normalcy of a guy who finds time to coach his daughter's basketball team, where he is known as Coach K.

Let the war begin. Saw Corey Boker on MSNBC claiming that there was a 99% chance that we're all going to die if he gets confirmed. That's a slight exaggeration.

Well if it was Joe Biden announcing the pick, Kavanaugh's his wife would at least get a back rub from "Uncle Joe".

wdmso · 07-10-2018, 06:37 AM

Judge Kavanaugh Congress should pass a law giving presidents immunity from civil suits and criminal investigations and prosecutions until they leave office.

Interesting his reasoning POTUS is a hard job ..

Jim in CT · 07-10-2018, 07:30 AM

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Judge Kavanaugh Congress should pass a law giving presidents immunity from civil suits and criminal investigations and prosecutions until they leave office.

Interesting his reasoning POTUS is a hard job ..

I see you were watching MSNBC last night.

That has the appearance of being self-serving from Trump's point of view, but we're a million miles away from Trump being indicted and the question going to SCOTUS. But it's a good point.

From what I can tell, people are upset because Kafanaugh thiks that judges should adhere to the rulebook (the Constitution), and not invent law or invent rights that aren't enumerated in that document. To the left, that is controversial.

My senator, Richard Blumenthal, is afraid women will lose their rights. An overturn of Roe V Wade (we're also a million miles away from that) doesn't outlaw abortion. It sends the question to the states. Very., very few states would outlaw abortion.

spence · 07-10-2018, 08:42 AM

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I see you were watching MSNBC last night.

That has the appearance of being self-serving from Trump's point of view, but we're a million miles away from Trump being indicted and the question going to SCOTUS. But it's a good point.

Actually it's being reported pretty much everywhere.

As for a million miles from Trump being indicted, I think we're a few months away from several very high profile indictments, maybe even family. Unless Mueller has something just blatantly criminal against Trump I doubt he'll try and indict a sitting President...let Congress impeach him.

Jim in CT · 07-10-2018, 08:49 AM

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Actually it's being reported pretty much everywhere.

As for a million miles from Trump being indicted, I think we're a few months away from several very high profile indictments. Unless Mueller has something just blatantly criminal against Trump I doubt he'll try and indict a sitting President...let Congress impeach him.

"I think we're a few months away from several very high profile indictments"

Which doesn't contradict what I said...

"let Congress impeach him"

If there's an impeachable offense, sure.

As to Kavanaugh. He said last night that Elana Kagan hired him to teach law at Harvard. Isn't that interesting...

You said you expected it to be civil. We shall soon see. The protesters were out in force immediately, and I saw Princess Liz Warren, raising her fist at their podium, showing her solidarity. It appears that Princess Lie-awatha wants the scalp of the Great White Chief, and that her ultimate goal, is his tee-pee.

All the women will either be dead or in internment camps, if you listen to Sen Blumenthal or Sen Corey Booker, who apparently get their tin foil hats at the same store.

Trump publicly offered to donate $1 million to Warren's favorite charity, if she'd take a DNA test. She hasn't taken him up on it yet, I can't imagine why.

The Dad Fisherman · 07-10-2018, 07:43 AM

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Judge Kavanaugh Congress should pass a law giving presidents immunity from civil suits and criminal investigations and prosecutions until they leave office.

Interesting his reasoning POTUS is a hard job ..

What's even more interesting is that it was in reference to Jones v Clinton.

Guess it made perfect sense back then, now, Not so Much

Jim in CT · 07-10-2018, 07:46 AM

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What's even more interesting is that it was in reference to Jones v Clinton.

Guess it made perfect sense back then, now, Not so Much

It was heroic then.

Pete F. · 07-10-2018, 07:50 AM

Hard tellin, not knowin
Brett Kavanaugh, who President Donald Trump nominated to replace the retiring Supreme Court justice Anthony Kennedy, previously contributed to a 1998 report that made a case for President Bill Clinton's impeachment.
This experience has shaped Kavanaugh's belief that presidents should not be indicted or distracted by investigations while in office.
"Whether the Constitution allows indictment of a sitting President is debatable," he has said.
Kavanaugh instead believes impeachment is the proper way to deal with a president's serious and "dastardly" misbehavior.
Donald Trump's pick for a seat on the Supreme Court is Brett Kavanaugh, a man who holds strong opinions on whether a president should be indicted or impeached.

A Yale Law graduate, Kavanaugh started his career as an associate counsel with special prosecutor Kenneth Starr, where he helped draft the report that recommended Clinton should be impeached for having an extramarital affair with White House intern Monica Lewinsky.

The report laid out 11 possible grounds for impeachment, including how misleading the public and lying to staff amounted to obstruction of justice. These findings have become particularly relevant as special counsel Robert Mueller, who is heading the Russia investigation, considers actions Trump has taken that could possibly be considered obstruction of justice.

But despite his experience co-authoring the report, or rather because of it, Kavanaugh has become an ardent supporter of a president's power.

Sea Dangles · 07-10-2018, 10:27 AM

The only evidence is that she misrepresented herself for to get a leg up on a potential job. Not the worst person but certainly a lack of character.
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Pete F. · 07-10-2018, 10:32 AM

Why would I equate Warren with Trump?
While I don’t agree with her on many political issues I think she has far more integrity than Donnie Bonespur
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-native-ameri/
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Jim in CT · 07-10-2018, 10:49 AM

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Why would I equate Warren with Trump?[/i][/size]

You would if you were honest.

But you can't., You can't bring yourself to say "she lied to get a job she wanted". everyone in the world knows that's exactly what happened.

zimmy · 07-10-2018, 11:28 AM

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You would if you were honest.

But you can't., You can't bring yourself to say "she lied to get a job she wanted". everyone in the world knows that's exactly what happened.

I find it interesting that Jim has absolutely no way to know her genealogy, yet he claims to know exactly what happened. Catholic virtue? Ha.
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Pete F. · 07-10-2018, 11:00 AM

Harvard Law School professor Charles Fried, who served as U.S. Solicitor General under President Ronald Reagan and was part of the committee that put Warren in a tenure position, said in a written statement that her ethnicity never came up during the process.

Fried, who donated $250 to Warren's campaign, told the Republican, a Springfield, Mass., newspaper, in 2012, "This stuff I hear that she was an affirmative action hire, got some kind of a boost, it is so ludicrous and so desperately stupid and ignorant, it just boggles the mind."
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Sea Dangles · 07-10-2018, 11:53 AM

At least she is trying to make the cost of education more affordable
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Pete F. · 07-10-2018, 01:20 PM

"This stuff I hear that she was an affirmative action hire, got some kind of a boost, it is so ludicrous and so desperately stupid and ignorant, it just boggles the mind."
Charles Fried
Politics and affiliations
In September 2005, Fried testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee in support of the nomination of John Roberts to become Chief Justice of the United States. After the nomination of Samuel Alito to the U.S. Supreme Court, Fried praised Alito as an outstanding judge but dismissed claims that Alito is radical, saying, "He is conservative, yes, but he is not radically conservative like Scalia."[6] Fried testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee and wrote a New York Times op-ed in support of Alito, who had served under him in the Solicitor General's office.[7]

On October 24, 2008, despite his previous support for the presidential aspirations of Senator John McCain, Fried announced that he had voted for Senator Barack Obama for President by absentee ballot. Fried cited Senator McCain's selection of Governor Sarah Palin as his running mate as the principal reason for his decision to vote for Senator Obama.[8] As president of the Harvard Law Review in 1990, Obama had published an article Fried wrote criticizing the effects of race-based affirmative action.[9] Fried later told The Wall Street Journal:

I admire Senator McCain and was glad to help in his campaign, and to be listed as doing so; but when I concluded that I must vote for Obama for the reason stated in my letter, I felt it wrong to appear to be recommending to others a vote that I was not prepared to cast myself. So it was more of an erasure than a public affirmation—although obviously my vote meant that I thought that Obama was preferable to McCain-Palin. I do not consider abstention a proper option.[10]

In February 2011, Fried testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee in support of President Obama's health care reform law.[11] When asked by Illinois Senator Richard Durbin to respond to critics of the law's individual mandate who ask: "[I]f the government can require me to buy health insurance, can it require me to have a membership in a gym, or eat vegetables?,” Fried replied:

Yes. We hear that quite a lot. It was put by Judge Vinson, and I think it was put by Professor Barnett in terms of eating your vegetables, and for reasons I set out in my testimony, that would be a violation of the 5th and the 14th Amendment, to force you to eat something. But to force you to pay for something? I don’t see why not. It may not be a good idea, but I don’t see why it’s unconstitutional.[12][13]

Fried is an adviser to the Harvard chapter of the Federalist Society.

detbuch · 07-10-2018, 04:32 PM

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Yes. We hear that quite a lot. It was put by Judge Vinson, and I think it was put by Professor Barnett in terms of eating your vegetables, and for reasons I set out in my testimony, that would be a violation of the 5th and the 14th Amendment, to force you to eat something.

Would it be a violation to force you to buy vegetables?

But to force you to pay for something? I don’t see why not. It may not be a good idea, but I don’t see why it’s unconstitutional.[12][13]

Would it be constitutional to force you to pay for something you don't want to buy?

Sea Dangles · 07-10-2018, 05:24 PM

Speculation Jeff?
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spence · 07-10-2018, 05:27 PM

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Speculation Jeff?
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More like common sense.

TheSpecialist · 07-10-2018, 05:38 PM

Don't get led astray Jim on the Indian crap, hit them with her making $430,000 for 2010 and part of 2011 to teach one class. She has a personal net worth of over 8 million. Yet she claims to be for the little guy, rails against the very establishments that got her to where she is. The woman is a two faced fraud

Sea Dangles · 07-10-2018, 06:38 PM

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Don't get led astray Jim on the Indian crap, hit them with her making $430,000 for 2010 and part of 2011 to teach one class. She has a personal net worth of over 8 million. Yet she claims to be for the little guy, rails against the very establishments that got her to where she is. The woman is a two faced fraud

How many Pinocchios Jeff?
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spence · 07-10-2018, 07:34 PM

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Don't get led astray Jim on the Indian crap, hit them with her making $430,000 for 2010 and part of 2011 to teach one class. She has a personal net worth of over 8 million. Yet she claims to be for the little guy, rails against the very establishments that got her to where she is. The woman is a two faced fraud

I have never seen a single credible reference that she was paid more than normal to teach X classes.

TheSpecialist · 07-11-2018, 08:16 AM

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I have never seen a single credible reference that she was paid more than normal to teach X classes.

The point is not whether or not she was paid more, the point is as long as she was getting paid by an institution of higher learning she was fine with the system, once she became a senator the system is bad

zimmy · 07-10-2018, 08:57 PM

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She has a personal net worth of over 8 million. Yet she claims to be for the little guy, rails against the very establishments that got her to where she is. The woman is a two faced fraud

He can relate.

JohnR · 07-10-2018, 10:11 PM

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I don't think you have ANY evidence to justify your speculation. I've also never heard of a single instance where she received any benefit for this consideration.

Reality is she's extremely smart and passionate which makes her a threat. Put this political smear in context of her significant career and it's insignificant.

What that Academia, particularly Harvard, does not award extra Purple Forehead Stars and unicorn sticker points for extra check boxes on Diversity? They've got an effing wing of Diversity Zampolits. Being one 64th Insert Your Ethnic Diversity Mark here is a big checkmark on Campus. That is worth two whole licks on the Self-Licking Faculty IceCream Cone.

wdmso · 07-11-2018, 07:14 AM

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Don't get led astray Jim on the Indian crap, hit them with her making $430,000 for 2010 and part of 2011 to teach one class. She has a personal net worth of over 8 million. Yet she claims to be for the little guy, rails against the very establishments that got her to where she is. The woman is a two faced fraud

Tump is worth 3.1 billion and says hes for the little guy as well funny dont hear you calling him a 2 faced fraud ??

TheSpecialist · 07-11-2018, 08:21 AM

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Tump is worth 3.1 billion and says hes for the little guy as well funny dont hear you calling him a 2 faced fraud ??

What you don't hear is Trump giving away your hard earned dollars to illegals or putting them ahead of us. You don't hear Trump rolling over you know face down ass up to the rest of the world like the previous status quo.

USA NO LONGER A DOORMAT!!!