Rush and Pat Robertson

[RIROCKHOUND]

Wow.
Rush: talk about trying to politicize a disaster

Pat:
Just %$%$%$%$ing nuts...

[scottw]

why? are they blaming Bush and Cheney or the failure of the recent Global Warming Summit for the disaster?

[RIROCKHOUND]

LIMBAUGH: Yes, I think in the Haiti earthquake, ladies and gentlemen -- in the words of Rahm Emanuel, we have another crisis simply too good to waste. This will play right into Obama's hands -- humanitarian, compassionate. They'll use this to burnish their -- shall we say -- credibility with the black community, in the both light-skinned and dark-skinned black community, in this country. It's made-to-order for 'em. That's why he couldn't wait to get out there. Could not wait to get out there."

Pat Robertson
"And you know Kristi, something happened a long time ago in Haiti and people might not want to talk about it. They were under the heel of the French, uh you know Napoleon the third and whatever. And they got together and swore a pact to the Devil. They said we will serve you if you'll get us free from the French. True Story. And so the Devil said "OK, it's a deal." And they kicked the French out. You know, the Haitians revolted and got themselves free. But ever since they have been cursed by one thing after the other, desperately poor. That island is Hispaniola is one island. It's cut down the middle. On one side is Haiti, on the other side is the Dominican republic. Dominican Republic is prosperous, healthy, full of resorts, etc.. Haiti is in desperate poverty. Same island. Uh, they need to have, and we need to pray for them, a great turning to God and out of this tragedy. I'm optimistic something good may come."

The US did a lot of good during the Tsunami recovery, and was one of the post 9/11 high points of the Bush Administration. They didn't politicize that, and the present administration is not politicizing this one, at least not yet.

[spence]

Rush is simply a porn merchant, and Robertson I'd have to agree has lost a few marbles.

It's really scary to think how much influence Rush has over the Republican party.

-spence

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

Rush is simply a porn merchant, and Robertson I'd have to agree has lost a few marbles.

It's really scary to think how much influence Rush has over the Republican party.

-spence

After not listening to Rush for a couple of years, I've tuned in to his show the past three days. He sounded like the same Rush from the past. Neither then, nor now, have I heard him peddle porn. Perhaps I just missed it. Maybe in the past couple of years that I wasn't listening he was getting down and dirty, and he just took a break the past three days.

I recall you saying something to the effect that he was a whore because he made a lot of money for his employers. Is that what you mean by porn?

[buckman]

Originally Posted by spence

Rush is simply a porn merchant, and Robertson I'd have to agree has lost a few marbles.

It's really scary to think how much influence Rush has over the Republican party.

-spence

Rush has lost alot of his listeners. I can't stand listening to him. He's more something the left would like to hang around the neck of all Republicans. Kind of a decoy while they stick the knife in your kids back.

How bad can it be down there? Hell their Special Envoy is campagning in Mass!

[seabuggy]

Pat Robertson is still the same idiot he always was. My only question is where does he find anyone to listen to him. I remember the comment he made after 911 " it happened because of loose morels..." That was so long ago, you cannot blame it on dementia. My heart goes out for the Haitians along with some of my money. We are so lucky to be here, Rush and Pat should do something to directly help them or keep out and let real patriots do it.

[scottw]

it appears as though the "scientific community"(Rock) is now tuning into Rush and watching the 700 Club...maybe they're(he's) looking for someone new to follow after the complete collapse of that whole Global Warming/Climate Change debacle

[Duke41]

Racism. will it never end. I am so damm sick of it. White, black, muslim ,jew etc.. How can man do great things, go to the moon or paint the Sistine Chapel, still insist on judging people not by there words or deeds but by the color of their skin. Are we never going to get past this?

[BigFish]

And you guys continue to listen to them much less give any credence to anything they have to say? If people would just stop listening to them they will go away!

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Duke41

Racism. will it never end. I am so damm sick of it. White, black, muslim ,jew etc.. How can man do great things, go to the moon or paint the Sistine Chapel, still insist on judging people not by there words or deeds but by the color of their skin. Are we never going to get past this?

I don't know, maybe you should ask Obama, Harry Reid, Bill Clinton and oh..don't forget Jimmy Carter since you mentioned Jews....

[EarnedStripes44]

Originally Posted by Duke41

Racism. will it never end. I am so damm sick of it. White, black, muslim ,jew etc.. How can man do great things, go to the moon or paint the Sistine Chapel, still insist on judging people not by there words or deeds but by the color of their skin. Are we never going to get past this?

I can dig it, what you say writes well.

But this Limbaugh hogwash is about money. And race stuff is talk radio gold. That Rush is an oaf, a fathead, and often his logic is as sharpened as the cysts on his arse, makes it all the more provocative. He has parlayed all of these qualities into a very lucrative talk show personality.

[EarnedStripes44]

Originally Posted by scottw

I don't know, maybe you should ask...Harry Reid....

Harry Reid could have articulated his point better. What a lot of critics are misundestanding is that it's not so much what is said, but how it's said. The word "negro" is a hell of an anachronism. Given the context (as a democrat), to refer to American black vernacular as a "dialect" is a little careless. But I think he was alluding to an unsung reality that blacks who "make it" often have to live in two worlds. It is very complicated but those that can do that, are the blacks that have better chance of being president. Harry should have put his construction better. Otherwise, he just sounds like another dumb white man. I never liked Harry and all his hyperbole anyway.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by EarnedStripes44

Harry Reid could have articulated his point better. What a lot of critics are misundestanding is that it's not so much what is said, but how it's said. The word "negro" is a hell of an anachronism. Given the context (as a democrat), to refer to American black vernacular as a "dialect" is a little careless. But I think he was alluding to an unsung reality that blacks who "make it" often have to live in two worlds. It is very complicated but those that can do that, are the blacks that have better chance of being president. Harry should have put his construction better. Otherwise, he just sounds like another dumb white man. I never liked Harry and all his hyperbole anyway.

I guess you could try to rationalize it that way....

[buckman]

Originally Posted by EarnedStripes44

Harry Reid could have articulated his point better. What a lot of critics are misundestanding is that it's not so much what is said, but how it's said. The word "negro" is a hell of an anachronism. Given the context (as a democrat), to refer to American black vernacular as a "dialect" is a little careless. But I think he was alluding to an unsung reality that blacks who "make it" often have to live in two worlds. It is very complicated but those that can do that, are the blacks that have better chance of being president. Harry should have put his construction better. Otherwise, he just sounds like another dumb white man. I never liked Harry and all his hyperbole anyway.

My folks aren't the slightest bit racist but I cring every time they refer to blacks as "colored"
Different times now. Reid is just old school. and perhaps not very bright.

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by EarnedStripes44

But this Limbaugh hogwash is about money. And race stuff is talk radio gold. That Rush is an oaf, a fathead, and often his logic is as sharpened as the cysts on his arse, makes it all the more provocative. He has parlayed all of these qualities into a very lucrative talk show personality.

Too bad Rush isn't doing his stuff for free like all those other radio . . . er . . .those other tv . . . er . . .those other movie . . . er . . . those politicians . . . er . . . like all those other great folks who are doing their stuff for free. Then, we might believe in his sincerity. Might pay a little critical attention to some of what he says.

But, since all he ever does is talk racist, oafish, fathead, cystically illogical stuff, that's why he makes a ton of money. And making all that money, of course, thoroughly discredits him.

And, of course, the millions that listen are oafish, fathead, illogical, racist retards.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by buckman

My folks aren't the slightest bit racist but I cring every time they refer to blacks as "colored"
Different times now. Reid is just old school. and perhaps not very bright.

maybe they are members/suporters of the NAA"C"P ?

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

After not listening to Rush for a couple of years, I've tuned in to his show the past three days. He sounded like the same Rush from the past. Neither then, nor now, have I heard him peddle porn. Perhaps I just missed it. Maybe in the past couple of years that I wasn't listening he was getting down and dirty, and he just took a break the past three days.

I recall you saying something to the effect that he was a whore because he made a lot of money for his employers. Is that what you mean by porn?

He certainly has gotten worse, he's always been acerbic, politically incorrect and full of ego, that's part of his game, but there's a meanness that I don't remember when I used to listen. And I listened for years.

As to the porn, it's not about making money, it's about how you earn it.

-spence

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

He certainly has gotten worse, he's always been acerbic, politically incorrect and full of ego, that's part of his game, but there's a meanness that I don't remember when I used to listen. And I listened for years.

As to the porn, it's not about making money, it's about how you earn it.

-spence

I think he mellowed when he was on the pain killer (oxycotton?). Drugs that numb pain tend to lighten your mood and dull your perceptions and reactions. He was much "nicer" during that period. When he was outed and forced to quit, I'm sure that his senses kicked in to a sharper, quicker, and less "tolerant" reactive state. You might perceive that as "meanness." "Some might" perceive it as not brooking ignorance. In any case, whether he is "mean" or nice is not relevant to whether he is right or wrong, a whore or a virgin.

Have you come upon a new definition or usage of "porn"? Or do you just get sexually aroused when you listen to Rush?

[scottw]

Spence has become acerbic, more full of ego, incorrect and meaner lately too...maybe he's off the "oxycotton" as well

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

In any case, whether he is "mean" or nice is not relevant to whether he is right or wrong, a whore or a virgin.

This is like saying that packaging isn't really part of a product.

Have you come upon a new definition or usage of "porn"? Or do you just get sexually aroused when you listen to Rush?

It's called an analogy, I keep forgetting that they tend to trip you up.

-spence

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

This is like saying that packaging isn't really part of a product.

When I say that whether Rush is mean or nice is not relevant to whether he is right or wrong, or to whether he is a whore or a virgin, I am saying that mean or nice people can be right or wrong and that a whore (which you called rush) or a virgin can be right or wrong. That such a simple "analogy" could "trip you up" into a vision of "packaging" is disappointing. You appear, usually, to be smarter than that. As for the packaging thing, are you saying that Rush is packaging himself as mean? Or is that just another way for you to pile on the inaccurate names that you call him?

It's called an analogy, I keep forgetting that they tend to trip you up.
-spence

You stated, and I quote, "Rush is simply a porn merchant,"--other than being a direct accusation, how, except in some twisted, hateful, way am I supposed to see that as an "analogy"? And what is it an analogy to? To his being mean, ascerbic, politically incorrect, abrasive? How is porn analogous to any of that? Or is that yet again another way for you to pile on the inaccurate names that you call him? Or are you trying to squirm out of the embarrasment of hearing porn when you listen to rush? Which is why I asked if his program sexually arouses you?

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

You stated, and I quote, "Rush is simply a porn merchant,"--other than being a direct accusation, how, except in some twisted, hateful, way am I supposed to see that as an "analogy"? And what is it an analogy to? To his being mean, ascerbic, politically incorrect, abrasive? How is porn analogous to any of that? Or is that yet again another way for you to pile on the inaccurate names that you call him? Or are you trying to squirm out of the embarrasment of hearing porn when you listen to rush? Which is why I asked if his program sexually arouses you?

You're simply talking in circles now.

-spence

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

You're simply talking in circles now.

-spence

Obviously talking circles around you. The circle is the most perfect form.

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Obviously talking circles around you. The circle is the most perfect form.

So I see you've come to a conclusion.

Did you engage in some vigorous deliberation with yourself to get there, or perhaps it was a backroom deal cut between you and yourself?

Regardless, I'm glad that you feel so confident.

Sorry if this post is too complicated.

-spence

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

So I see you've come to a conclusion

Nah, just responding to your conclusion.

Did you engage in some vigorous deliberation with yourself to get there, or perhaps it was a backroom deal cut between you and yourself?

Nah, just trying to elicit a justification for your mean-spirited name-calling.

Regardless, I'm glad that you feel so confident.

So good, so generous of you. But whether you feel glad or not has no effect on my confidence.

Sorry if this post is too complicated.
-spence

I don't mind complexity. Well wrought complexity, if it rings true, is a beautiful thing. But mean accusations that cannot be verified or explained as true, such as you calling Rush a porn merchant, no matter how you deflect by calling it a non-existent "analogy", are, to me, the kind of slander of which Rush is accused.

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

I don't mind complexity. Well wrought complexity, if it rings true, is a beautiful thing. But mean accusations that cannot be verified or explained as true, such as you calling Rush a porn merchant, no matter how you deflect by calling it a non-existent "analogy", are, to me, the kind of slander of which Rush is accused.

Big difference, I'm not a radio personality making 30+ million a year.

-spence

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

Big difference, I'm not a radio personality making 30+ million a year.

-spence

Ahhhh! Again, the money thing.
Poor little rich man, he's not allowed to lie.
But rich little poor man can slander till he die.

So it appears in the fiction of this thread. I would hope that in the real world a lie is a lie no matter who utters it.

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Ahhhh! Again, the money thing.
Poor little rich man, he's not allowed to lie.
But rich little poor man can slander till he die.

So it appears in the fiction of this thread. I would hope that in the real world a lie is a lie no matter who utters it.

The interesting thing about slander is that it doesn't have to be a lie to have impact, and I'm sure Rush would agree. Perhaps it's a potential truth that really bothers you.

-spence

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

The interesting thing about slander is that it doesn't have to be a lie to have impact, and I'm sure Rush would agree. Perhaps it's a potential truth that really bothers you.

-spence

You have this facility for slithering and morphing. Now, from slanderer to mind reader/pseudo-psychiatrist. So you think, from your distant perch, that you know what Rush would think and what "really bothers" me. I'm not aware of how you can slander with the truth, but if that's possible, how have you done it? Nor do I know what a "potential truth" is. So why don't you tell me what potential truth is bothering me. And what is the "impact" of your brilliant machination.