The state of the GOP

[JohnR]

Watched it last night - mediocre. Probably put a good nail in the Trump coffin.

Dying to see Hillary and Bernie Sanders - I am going to arrange an online drinking game where you take a sip for every swig for every Marxist slogan and a swig for every time they try to come across as tough on liberty and and strong foreign policy

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Originally Posted by tysdad115

Ever shot in low light situations? I have, and I'd prefer me and several others be armed and at least able to defend ourselves if the situation ever arose. 90% of "mass shootings" are in Gun Free zones, whats that tell you?
The more I see and read from Rand Paul the more I like him. Term limits, tax code etc etc ..

Yes - how many shootings / killings are caused by legal armed crazy people versus how many caused by sane people with illegal guns.

Numbers are not close but we only hear about one of them on the news.

Originally Posted by Nebe

I had this exact discussion this morning. It's like watching a season of professional wrestling. Or better yet, like watching everyone jump out of a clown car.
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Jump out, while moving 10mph, and then trying to jump back in again.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Dying to see Hillary and Bernie Sanders - I am going to arrange an online drinking game where you take a sip for every swig for every Marxist slogan .

In that drinking game, Eril Flynn and Richard Burton would be dead 5 minutes in.

The Clintons gave 15M to charity over the last few years. Sounds great, right?. Turns out 14.8 million of that, went to their foundation, from which they reimburse themselves for lavish travel expenses, and give themselves a podium on which to promote their agenda. The word 'disgusting' doesn't even come close.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

The Clintons gave 15M to charity over the last few years. Sounds great, right?. Turns out 14.8 million of that, went to their foundation, from which they reimburse themselves for lavish travel expenses, and give themselves a podium on which to promote their agenda. The word 'disgusting' doesn't even come close.

The Clinton's have multiple charities. They donate most of their money to the Clinton Family Foundation which acts as a distribution point for donations to other charities, though from what I've read most of their money is applied directly.

For the most part you're just parroting the original WSJ opinion piece that all the pundits jumped on not realizing it was severely flawed.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

The Clinton's have multiple charities. They donate most of their money to the Clinton Family Foundation which acts as a distribution point for donations to other charities, though from what I've read most of their money is applied directly.

For the most part you're just parroting the original WSJ opinion piece that all the pundits jumped on not realizing it was severely flawed.

"They donate most of their money to the Clinton Family Foundation "

14.8M, out of 15.0M, to be precise.

"the original WSJ opinion piece that all the pundits jumped on not realizing it was severely flawed"

How was it flawed? Does the Foundation provide these weasels with perks (luxury travel, a platform to promote their agenda) or not?

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by spence

The Clinton's have multiple charities. They donate most of their money to the Clinton Family Foundation which acts as a distribution point for donations to other charities, though from what I've read most of their money is applied directly.

Does that also include the $600,000/yr salary to Chelsea Clinton, nice girl ,I like her a lot, working for the Clinton Foundation?

[scottw]

Originally Posted by justplugit

Does that also include the $600,000/yr salary to Chelsea Clinton, nice girl ,I like her a lot, working for the Clinton Foundation?

WOW...that's almost as good as being Kennedy and working for Citizens Energy,,,,,those "non-profits" sure pay impressive salaries....wonder what you have to do to get one of those jobs?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by scottw

WOW...that's almost as good as being Kennedy and working for Citizens Energy,,,,,those "non-profits" sure pay impressive salaries....wonder what you have to do to get one of those jobs?

Chelsea is also married to a hedge fund manager. Yu know, one of thos ehedge fund managers that Hilary is always blamoing for all the evil in the world.

Hilary is a lot like Liz Warren, aka Apache Chief. It's OK for them to be rich, but not anyone else.

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Chelsea is also married to a hedge fund manager. Yu know, one of thos ehedge fund managers that Hilary is always blamoing for all the evil in the world.

Is that the same Hillary who invested $10,000 which was turned into $100,000
in like a few months????
Couldn't be, she was broke when she left the White House.

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by scottw

WOW...that's almost as good as being Kennedy and working for Citizens Energy,,,,,those "non-profits" sure pay impressive salaries....wonder what you have to do to get one of those jobs?

Prolly first perquisite would be willing to lie.

[Fly Rod]

Originally Posted by scottw

WOW...that's almost as good as being Kennedy and working for Citizens Energy,,,,,those "non-profits" sure pay impressive salaries....wonder what you have to do to get one of those jobs?

do not leave out the radical news reporter George Ramos's daughter... she is on the Clinton Foundation payroll too.....

[spence]

Originally Posted by justplugit

Does that also include the $600,000/yr salary to Chelsea Clinton, nice girl ,I like her a lot, working for the Clinton Foundation?

Chelsea didn't earn 600k a year working for the Clinton Foundation.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Chelsea didn't earn 600k a year working for the Clinton Foundation.
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No that was an NBC, where despite having no experience, managed to core that salary. She also pulls in another 250k a year to serve on the Board Of Directors (since she has so much experience) at something called IAC.

But Hilary rails against the fact that the system is tilted in favor of the rich & powerful. No hypocrisy there, right Spence?

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by spence

Chelsea didn't earn 600k a year working for the Clinton Foundation.
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Justplugit is always close with his facts but wrong on important details.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Justplugit is always close with his facts but wrong on important details.
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But she did make 600k a year at NBC, and no one would deny she got that gig thanks to her parentage. Shouldn't that preclude Hilary from decrying income inequality and how awful it is that the rich and well-connected have all these perks? Who the hell is she to complain about these things? With one hand, she wags her finger at the system for all of its unfairness. With the other hand, she milks said system for tens of millions of dollars? That's not revolting to you?

[justplugit]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Justplugit is always close with his facts but wrong on important details.
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You're right in this case, but please elaborate on I'm" ALWAYS CLOSE" on facts
but wrong on important details anywhere else. You paint with a broad brush.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by PaulS

Justplugit is always close with his facts but wrong on important details.
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she's 36 and she's worth 15 million and her parents are poor....quite a success story....love free market capitalism....what did she do again?

hard to determine what her compensation is at the Clinton Slush Fund but one of her buddies pulled down 275k for 5 months
(Eric Braverman, a friend of Chelsea Clinton, was paid nearly $275,000 in salary, benefits, and a housing allowance for just five months’ work )..soooo...not to mention all of the lavish and extravagant perks one enjoys while in the midst of non-profit work


"The website Celebrity Net Worth pegs Chelsea’s personal fortune at $15 million, with most of her dough earned as a consultant at McKinsey & Co. and by working for Avenue Capital Investment Group. The site estimates Mezvinsky, 36, is also worth $15 million, which he made as an investment banker at Goldman Sachs and while working at the hedge fund 3G Capital and at a hedge fund he co-founded in 2011."

Hillary was asked how she’ll convince voters she’s not “part of the problem” on the issue of income inequality.
“But they don’t see me as part of the problem,” she said, “because we pay ordinary income tax, unlike a lot of people who are truly well off, not to name names; and we’ve done it through dint of hard work.”

The Clinton Foundation joins Al Sharpton’s troubled National Action Network on Charity Navigator’s list. It seems appropriate that two great con artists, Bill Clinton and Al Sharpton, should be thus be joined.

Sharpton’s outfit reportedly made the list because it didn’t pay payroll taxes for several years. The Clinton Foundation’s problems run deeper. According to the Post, it took in more than $140 million in grants and pledges in 2013 but spent just $9 million on direct aid.

Much of the Foundation’s money goes to travel ($8.5 million in 2013); conferences, conventions and meetings ($9.2 million); and payroll and employee benefits ($30 million).