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Old 02-25-2019, 06:47 AM   #1
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Smaller Kitchens

We have shifted from building larger custom homes to smaller more affordable ones. The kitchens are much more simple, and I'm in and done in just two or three days. The 33 lot subdivision was started last year with a dozen homes already sold preconstruction.

More middle class people than ever are buying new homes in these good economic times.


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Old 02-25-2019, 04:07 PM   #2
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Kitchen floor ? Plz
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Old 02-26-2019, 07:13 AM   #3
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Prefinished oak ....charcoal stain color...customer choices trending away from natural oak for now.
First time home buyers these days want/expect a lot more than they did back in the seventies when I built my home.

Back then we built something called a starter home ....one bedroom one bath with an unfinished upstairs with room for future two or three small bedrooms and a bath.

No two car garages, no master suite with whirlpool tub and walk-in closets, no granite counters, no central a/c ...etc.

Simpler times and lower expectations back then. Home buyers these days want it all, and right away .... one reason houses cost so much more today.
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Old 02-26-2019, 11:10 AM   #4
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But

Back then interest rates were what? 10-16%. Houses now appear to be big money cause everyone can get a 700k note for 30 years at 4 point something percent.

I would say most houses are worth 200 to 250k less than what they are selling for.

But people pay it. I think itís crazy.
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Old 02-26-2019, 04:59 PM   #5
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I enjoyed building for first time home buyers on a budget ...

The MacMansion clients where more often than not... PIAís

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Old 02-26-2019, 05:25 PM   #6
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Iíve always found that people who work for money, want to pay you, just be fair and honest.
People who have money want to keep it, different mindset.
Of course, thatís a generalization.
On starter houses, try and get a bank to loan you money for an unfinished house, NFW will they.
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Old 02-27-2019, 05:48 AM   #7
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Iíve always found that people who work for money, want to pay you, just be fair and honest.
People who have money want to keep it, different mindset.
Of course, thatís a generalization.
On starter houses, try and get a bank to loan you money for an unfinished house, NFW will they.
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I've always said "people who get rich normally don't get there by being fair an honest"
The first two banks I went to for a mortgage loan to build my house turned me down...said they don't do mortgages for 20 year olds with out a co-signer. I kept trying and eventually got approved for the loan at 8% on my own good credit and work history.

Small cape cod style home was easy to build, I finished the second floor added a family room and two car garage as our family grew.
Still living here .....42+ years and counting.
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Old 02-27-2019, 08:38 PM   #8
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Look up a company called Zaveeta Builders in Bucks County PA. Average size houses are 10k sqrft. Amazing the houses they build and sell.
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Look up a company called Zaveeta Builders in Bucks County PA. Average size houses are 10k sqrft. Amazing the houses they build and sell.

They are amazing! Great craftsmanship and designs!
But 10,000 sq. ft. is ridiculous.... trophy houses... can you imagine the taxes, utilities, maintenance....I could not live comfortably in one of those monuments, probably because I grew up living in tenement apartment in a family of ten....one bathroom. Hey at least we had indoor plumbing.


Couple more smaller kitchens....
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Old 03-06-2019, 04:28 PM   #10
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They are amazing! Great craftsmanship and designs!
But 10,000 sq. ft. is ridiculous.... trophy houses... can you imagine the taxes, utilities, maintenance....I could not live comfortably in one of those monuments, probably because I grew up living in tenement apartment in a family of ten....one bathroom. Hey at least we had indoor plumbing.


Couple more smaller kitchens....
I'd never have a house that big. Give me 10k acres to myself, a 3k sqrft house, a 40x80 heated barn, in ground pool and I'd be all set.
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In your kitchen travels, have you developed a preference when it comes to painted cabinets? Weíre moving end of the month and the new house has natural wood cabinets, trying to figure out if itís feasible to hire someone to paint them or if I should just order new fronts that have been factory painted
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In your kitchen travels, have you developed a preference when it comes to painted cabinets? Weíre moving end of the month and the new house has natural wood cabinets, trying to figure out if itís feasible to hire someone to paint them or if I should just order new fronts that have been factory painted
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I'd run the costs myself. See what the difference is.
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I'd run the costs myself. See what the difference is.
Thatís the current plan, just wondering if anyone had been successful long term with having them painted on site.

With my current cabinets, I painted all the boxes but bought new drawer fronts and doors from a custom cabinet wholesaler who matched the color and sprayed everything offsite.

The new kitchen has some really nice existing cabinets, just not our style. So if painting them is something that will last, Iíd prefer to preserve whatís there as replacing them would be kinda wasteful.
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Iíve sent them out a couple of times ...
Had to super clean them to make sure thereís no trace of any oil..
My cabinet guy sprays a lacquer finish and the oil (dirt) causes fish eyes in the finish product...
These where not painted but refinished with satin sealer...

Painting a color May be more problematic me thinks...

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Iíve sent them out a couple of times ...
Had to super clean them to make sure thereís no trace of any oil..
My cabinet guy sprays a lacquer finish and the oil (dirt) causes fish eyes in the finish product...
These where not painted but refinished with satin sealer...

Painting a color May be more problematic me thinks...

Hurry up, itís almost time to fish....
This one is getting subbed out. 4 week project that is done May 4th whether itís complete or not. I learned my lesson last fall... not letting another season get messed up by my insatiable appetite for home projects
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The new kitchen has some really nice existing cabinets, just not our style. So if painting them is something that will last, Iíd prefer to preserve whatís there as replacing them would be kinda wasteful.
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Not wasteful if you are able to recycle said cabinets in a newly built out work shop.....

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Not wasteful if you are able to recycle said cabinets in a newly built out work shop.....
Excellent point....

I should have specified that the thing that isnít our style is simply the color (theyíre natural cherry) but since weíre staining the floors, natural wood cabinets just arenít gonna work. Probably going to give it a shot as a hire out for stripping down the existing cabinets, painting them, and putting things back together.
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This one is getting subbed out. 4 week project that is done May 4th whether itís complete or not. I learned my lesson last fall... not letting another season get messed up by my insatiable appetite for home projects
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Come on down! Iíll make up a list for ya....
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They are amazing! Great craftsmanship and designs!
But 10,000 sq. ft. is ridiculous.... trophy houses... can you imagine the taxes, utilities, maintenance....I could not live comfortably in one of those monuments, probably because I grew up living in tenement apartment in a family of ten....one bathroom. Hey at least we had indoor plumbing.


Couple more smaller kitchens....
Exact;y, I had a friend sell his huge house here in Abington cause his taxes were 11,000.00 + per year

It's nice to see normal sized houses being built for a change

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Checked out the website. Wowsers. Impressive "houses". To only be rich.
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Exact;y, I had a friend sell his huge house here in Abington cause his taxes were 11,000.00 + per year

It's nice to see normal sized houses being built for a change
11k a year? Big deal. My cousin is building a 4k sqrft cape in Amherst Nh. I bet his taxes will be around 20k a yr. 11k a yr on those houses are nothing. Up in NH those houses would run you 30k a yr I bet.
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Since I built my house in '77...my taxes have gone from $800 to $3,800 per year. My current real estate taxes cost per month is more than my original mortgage payments. I used to think that after my house was paid off, I would own it free and clear. Now I realize with the ever increasing taxes that is not happening.

Personally, I have absolutely no desire for a bigger, more beautiful and luxurious home. That's just not me. We recently completed a massive new home that had these two huge motorized chandeliers that lower from two stories up so they can be dusted and bulbs changed. What a freikin waste! That kind of crap does nothing for me.
I've also noticed something...after building homes for people across the income spectrum over the last 45 years.....wealthy people often have more problems and are more miserable than their poorer blue collar counterparts. I have some theories about wealthy people after dealing with so many over the years
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11k a year? Big deal. My cousin is building a 4k sqrft cape in Amherst Nh. I bet his taxes will be around 20k a yr. 11k a yr on those houses are nothing. Up in NH those houses would run you 30k a yr I bet.
You know that is not an apples and apples comparison.... NH has no sales tax nor income tax...

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a few more.......appliances in the middle picture are a new to me color/finish.....I cant touch stainless without making a mess of it with my grubby hands
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Fireplace remodel. Exposed brick originally went all the way up to the cathedral ceiling, and was removed down to appropriate height. I will make a shaker style pilaster and mantel shelf with poplar and the remaining brick covered with granite.
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Fireplace remodel. Exposed brick originally went all the way up to the cathedral ceiling, and was removed down to appropriate height. I will make a shaker style pilaster and mantel shelf with poplar and the remaining brick covered with granite.
This is cool to see in this stage of transformation, thanks for posting these
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Thanks Ian....I lost a lot of my work related photos to ransomware/ virus a few years ago. I refused to pay and lost pictures of some of my best work.
This is the finished mantel installed and painted...also installing a new kitchen at this remodel.
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Thanks Ian....I lost a lot of my work related photos to ransomware/ virus a few years ago. I refused to pay and lost pictures of some of my best work.
This is the finished mantel installed and painted...also installing a new kitchen at this remodel.
I take it the tile came out of the kitchen,,, hard work for sure

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The demolition filled four dumpsters...besides the kitchen there were 3 1/2 bathrooms totally gutted. Different crew.....my first day there was when the cabinets were delivered.

I had to ask about the soffit detail. The quality and attention to detail on the plans for the cabinetry is always lacking...no details or cross sections and nothing on elevations regarding the soffit/ceiling moulding connection.

I drew commercial millwork with autocad for several years, accuracy and detail was the name of the game....every measurement, horizontal and verticle cross sections, materials labeled, hardware specs all on the shop drawings. From the accuracy of the drawings, I made parts cut lists with exact measurements. The shop could then build the stuff without any head scratching.

Made some progress with getting all the appliances installed.
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Panels attached to the sub zero fridge....tedious and time consuming..there was some cussing
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