Bari Weiss should be given a listen to

[wdmso]

I find. It odd Republicans are all over Tik Tok which have all the security flaws of Twitter and content yet

GOP Rep. Mike Gallagher of Wisconsin told NBC’s “Meet The Press TikTok is an addictive drug China’s government is providing to Americans, says the incoming chairman of a new House select committee on China.

As GOPers ban TikTok, they’re not keeping that same energy with Twitter
There seems to be an obvious reason Republicans are banning TikTok from government devices but not Twitter, which carries many of the same security risks.

What isn’t clear, though, is how these security issues are materially different from issues on social platforms Republicans tend to love these days — like Twitter and Facebook.

Both of those platforms, for example, have well-documented histories of being used by foreign governments to manipulate and demoralize Americans. Whistleblowers from both companies have come forward with damning claims. If the GOP were concerned about influence from foreign governments, you’d think more of them would decry the fact that the Saudis have openly touted their investment in Elon Musk’s Twitter.



The FBI is concerned that the Chinese government could use TikTok to influence American users or control their devices.


So let me get this straight the GOP trust the FBIs views on TikTok

Yet the FBI is in bed with Twitter

As I’ve said The Twitter-FBI story relies far more on insinuation than evidence

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

So let me get this straight the GOP trust the FBIs views on TikTok

Yet the FBI is in bed with Twitter

As I’ve said The Twitter-FBI story relies far more on insinuation than evidence

wayne, no one on the right said that the FBI can never be trusted. Why is everything one extreme or the other?

Two things can be true at the same time. Some in the FBI could have very inappropriately tried to cleanse social media of things unfavorable to Biden. At the same time, the FBI might be right about Tik Tok and China.

In your mind, life is as simple as “the republican is always wrong.”. Most of us realize the world isn’t that simple.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

wayne, no one on the right said that the FBI can never be trusted. Why is everything one extreme or the other?

Two things can be true at the same time. Some in the FBI could have very inappropriately tried to cleanse social media of things unfavorable to Biden. At the same time, the FBI might be right about Tik Tok and China.

In your mind, life is as simple as “the republican is always wrong.”. Most of us realize the world isn’t that simple.

Russia Russia Russia

Funny how it keeps turning up

A former aide to Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell and Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) was convicted Thursday after being found guilty of helping funnel illegal foreign campaign contributions from a Russian national into former President Trump's 2016 campaign.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Russia Russia Russia

Funny how it keeps turning up


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So we aren't supposed to mention a huge, empty, politically-motivated investigation that your side started. But if the GOP plans to do the same thing with Hunter, THAT needs to be discussed. But we can't discuss why it's OK when the left does the same thing.

Please explain why it's always OK when the left does it, but never OK when the right does it?

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

wayne, no one on the right said that the FBI can never be trusted. Why is everything one extreme or the other?


Jim the right is screaming the FBI can never be trusted ever unless they but a democratic in jail


Two things can be true at the same time. Some in the FBI could have very inappropriately tried to cleanse social media of things unfavorable to Biden. [COLOR="red"]Only in the imaginary world of the far right no individual has that power[/COLOR] At the same time, the FBI might be right about Tik Tok and China.

In your mind, life is as simple as “the republican is always wrong.”. Most of us realize the world isn’t that simple.

No Jim in my experience and their actual behavior their always lying and misrepresentation facts ignoring truth. The last 5 year is filled with examples

All these so called upcoming investigations are not for truth and transparency No different than a Benghazi hearings even McCarthys let the cat out the bag on that one .

all they’re gonna do is talk to discredit Biden and anyone around him prior to the 2024 election it’s so obvious all the Republicans can’t see it


Jiim this is the narrative of the house GOP suggesting to the American people (actually just their base )

That Ultimately, U.S. government influence at Twitter would work to derail Trump's administration, spur a widespread censorship campaign by U.S. government agencies during the 2020 presidential election and pandemic, and perhaps even light the fire for Russia's invasion of Ukraine,

That last comment is amazing A. Republicans claim a migrant invasion is Biden’s Fault. And Now Twitter and Biden are some how responsible for Russia’s invasion of Ukraine !

But it’s really not surprising how Republicans are pulling back from Ukraine using their go to excuse of fiscally responsibility bla bla bla

Because once again their base sees Putin as a Savior and hero fighting Traditional western values. Which is code for no people of color gays transgender. Or liberals

2014 Buchanan blushed with praise for Putin’s policies, writing, “In the culture war for the future of mankind, Putin is planting Russia’s flag firmly on the side of traditional Christianity.”


2022 A growing number of white nationalists identify with Vladimir Putin

The U.S. Christians Who Pray for Putin

So this new house leadership or lack of it might seem comical today
It’s more dangerous than it looks

[wdmso]

Still not sure why Jim in the right are so fixated on Twitter the Hunter Biden laptop story And this magical suppression

No one can Explain why the FBI would only look to censor Twitter and FB but not the New York post or any other Print or online media outlets

It ran all over the Internet and print news through the entire world..

They only reason I can conclude it fits the rights narrative of not liking big technology, because big tec doesn’t give them money like they give Democratic’s they’re the same with Unions they hate them for the same reason

Many rightfully question the source of the material due to the chain of custody and Rudy Giuliani clearly not a trustworthy source

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Still not sure why Jim in the right are so fixated on Twitter the Hunter Biden laptop story And this magical suppression

No one can Explain why the FBI would only look to censor Twitter and FB but not the New York post or any other Print or online media outlets

It ran all over the Internet and print news through the entire world..

They only reason I can conclude it fits the rights narrative of not liking big technology, because big tec doesn’t give them money like they give Democratic’s they’re the same with Unions they hate them for the same reason

Many rightfully question the source of the material due to the chain of custody and Rudy Giuliani clearly not a trustworthy source

"Still not sure why Jim in the right are so fixated on Twitter the Hunter Biden laptop story"

Because you can't comprehend why anyone would be interested in a story that doesn't help democrats.

"No one can Explain why the FBI would only look to censor Twitter and FB but not the New York post "

Huh? How would the FBI convince the NY Post to censor their own story, which they knew to be factual? Do you not understand what took place? The NY Post knew it was a legit story at the time they reported on it. Why would they censor themselves?

"No one" can explain that to you? Probably because no one considered the possibility that something that obvious would need to be explained.

The circulation of the NY post is nothing compared to how many people are on FB and Twitter and Instagram.

Wayne, you guys go on and on about Foxnews. On a good night, 1% of the country is watching Foxnews. One percent. That's nothing compared to who controls big tech. And it's fine if Big tech wants to have a political slant, it's a free country. But let's not deny it just because it makes your life easier.

I don't think you understand what happened. They called a legit story "russian disinformation", and they did so with absolutely zero evidence. They banned it when it might have hurt Biden, then they all admitted they had no legit reason to ban it.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

you guys go on and on about Foxnews. On a good night 1% of the country is watching Foxnews. One percent. That's nothing compared to who controls big tech. And it's fine if Big tech wants to have a political slant, it's a free country. But let's not deny it just because it makes your life easier.

I don't think you understand what happened. They called a legit story "russian disinformation", and they did so with absolutely zero evidence.

There’s plenty of evidence

As far as your number two hit of Faux News having only a small share of the market

CNN, Fox News Top List of Main Sources

Overall, when respondents are asked what outlet they turn to most often for news about government and politics, the most frequent mentions are two cable networks: CNN (named by 16%) and Fox News (14%). But wide ideological differences exist both in the sources that top the list for those on the left and right and in the degree to which there is reliance on a single source.

Those with consistently conservative political values are oriented around a single outlet—Fox News—to a much greater degree than those in any other ideological group: Nearly half (47%) of those who are consistently conservative name Fox News as their main source for government and political news. Far fewer choose any other single source: Local radio ranks second, named by 11%, with no other individual source named by more than 5% of consistent conservatives. Those with mostly conservative views also gravitate strongly toward Fox News – 31% name it as their main source, several times the share who name the next most popular sources, including CNN (9%), local television (6%) and radio (6%) and Yahoo News (6%).

On the left of the political spectrum, no single outlet predominates. Among consistent liberals, CNN (15%), NPR (13%), MSNBC (12%) and the New York Times (10%) all rank near the top of the list. CNN is named by just 20% of those with mostly liberal views, but still tops their list, followed by local television (11%) and NPR (9%). Both MSNBC and Fox News are mentioned by 5% of those who are mostly liberal. Those in other ideological groups name the New York Times, NPR and MSNBC less frequently as top news sources.

Respondents with a roughly equal mix of liberal and conservative values also have a diffuse mix of news providers. CNN (20%) and local television (16%) are the most frequently-named top sources, with a long list of other news sources named by fewer than one-in-ten. Fox News (8%) is among the most-named sources in this “long tail,” along with Yahoo News (7%) and Google News (6%), both of which primarily aggregate and highlight news produced by other outlets.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

There’s plenty of evidence

As far as your number two hit of Faux News having only a small share of the market

CNN, Fox News Top List of Main Sources

Overall, when respondents are asked what outlet they turn to most often for news about government and politics, the most frequent mentions are two cable networks: CNN (named by 16%) and Fox News (14%). But wide ideological differences exist both in the sources that top the list for those on the left and right and in the degree to which there is reliance on a single source.

Those with consistently conservative political values are oriented around a single outlet—Fox News—to a much greater degree than those in any other ideological group: Nearly half (47%) of those who are consistently conservative name Fox News as their main source for government and political news. Far fewer choose any other single source: Local radio ranks second, named by 11%, with no other individual source named by more than 5% of consistent conservatives. Those with mostly conservative views also gravitate strongly toward Fox News – 31% name it as their main source, several times the share who name the next most popular sources, including CNN (9%), local television (6%) and radio (6%) and Yahoo News (6%).

On the left of the political spectrum, no single outlet predominates. Among consistent liberals, CNN (15%), NPR (13%), MSNBC (12%) and the New York Times (10%) all rank near the top of the list. CNN is named by just 20% of those with mostly liberal views, but still tops their list, followed by local television (11%) and NPR (9%). Both MSNBC and Fox News are mentioned by 5% of those who are mostly liberal. Those in other ideological groups name the New York Times, NPR and MSNBC less frequently as top news sources.

Respondents with a roughly equal mix of liberal and conservative values also have a diffuse mix of news providers. CNN (20%) and local television (16%) are the most frequently-named top sources, with a long list of other news sources named by fewer than one-in-ten. Fox News (8%) is among the most-named sources in this “long tail,” along with Yahoo News (7%) and Google News (6%), both of which primarily aggregate and highlight news produced by other outlets.
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if there is “plenty” of evidence it was russian disinformation, why is everyone now denying that claim?

my numbers were right. a good show for fox gets 3m viewers, which is 1% of the US population.

Numbers on FB, twitter, and instagram, dwarf that.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

"Still not sure why Jim in the right are so fixated on Twitter the Hunter Biden laptop story"

Because you can't comprehend why anyone would be interested in a story that doesn't help democrats.

"No one can Explain why the FBI would only look to censor Twitter and FB but not the New York post "

Huh? How would the FBI convince the NY Post to censor their own story, which they knew to be factual? Do you not understand what took place? The NY Post knew it was a legit story at the time they reported on it. Why would they censor themselves?

"No one" can explain that to you? Probably because no one considered the possibility that something that obvious would need to be explained.

The circulation of the NY post is nothing compared to how many people are on FB and Twitter and Instagram.

Wayne, you guys go on and on about Foxnews. On a good night, 1% of the country is watching Foxnews. One percent. That's nothing compared to who controls big tech. And it's fine if Big tech wants to have a political slant, it's a free country. But let's not deny it just because it makes your life easier.

I don't think you understand what happened. They called a legit story "russian disinformation", and they did so with absolutely zero evidence. They banned it when it might have hurt Biden, then they all admitted they had no legit reason to ban it.

The truth finally come out it!

They banned it when it might have hurt Biden

It all comes back to looking for excuses why Trump lost

Even with the story running in the NY post print and online version
And covered by hundreds and hundreds of other sources of all political persuasions your excuse is circulation of the NY post is nothing compared to how many people are on FB and Twitter and Instagram.

That’s flawed logic it assumes because you’re on any of those platforms. You were denied information and couldn’t or it wasn’t the individual responsibility to seek other sources

Many people have FB Twitter and Instagram and tic toc Read the NYpost NY times the Washington Post. Watch CNN or Fox. And their local news sources it wasn’t a hard story to find

So people looked for the Hunter Biden laptop story on Twitter and couldn’t find it.
Just gave up? And looked no place Else

It all comes back to the GOP Narrative of Big tech is mean to us

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

The truth finally come out it!

They banned it when it might have hurt Biden

It all comes back to looking for excuses why Trump lost

Even with the story running in the NY post print and online version
And covered by hundreds and hundreds of other sources of all political persuasions your excuse is circulation of the NY post is nothing compared to how many people are on FB and Twitter and Instagram.

That’s flawed logic it assumes because you’re on any of those platforms. You were denied information and couldn’t or it wasn’t the individual responsibility to seek other sources

Did the FBI saying the hunter laptop story was, or was probably, Russian disinformation have any influence at all on how you viewed it?

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

The truth finally come out it!

They banned it when it might have hurt Biden

It all comes back to looking for excuses why Trump lost

Even with the story running in the NY post print and online version
And covered by hundreds and hundreds of other sources of all political persuasions your excuse is circulation of the NY post is nothing compared to how many people are on FB and Twitter and Instagram.

That’s flawed logic it assumes because you’re on any of those platforms. You were denied information and couldn’t or it wasn’t the individual responsibility to seek other sources

Many people have FB Twitter and Instagram and tic toc Read the NYpost NY times the Washington Post. Watch CNN or Fox. And their local news sources it wasn’t a hard story to find

So people looked for the Hunter Biden laptop story on Twitter and couldn’t find it.
Just gave up? And looked no place Else

It all comes back to the GOP Narrative of Big tech is mean to us

"They banned it when it might have hurt Biden

It all comes back to looking for excuses why Trump lost "

I said very explicitly, it likely didn't effect the outcome since Trump got creamed. Why are you lying?

Detbuch posted that Twitters head of content security, was tipped off specifically by the FBI, about the laptop being Russian disinformation. But the FBI had the laptop, therefore they knew it wasn't Russian disinformation.

So instead of insulting those who bring it up, why not tell us what you think happened here?

"Many people have FB Twitter and Instagram and tic toc Read the NYpost NY times the Washington Post. Watch CNN or Fox. And their local news sources it wasn’t a hard story to find "

Fact: 1% of the US population watches Foxnews. And according to Pew Research, 70% of Americans are on the big social media.

I don't know how good you are at math. But do you understand the difference in magnitude between 1% of the population, and 70%?

Advertising revenue is surging at big tech, and drying up everywhere else, because that's where the people are.

Again, why are you lying?