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Old 06-11-2017, 09:54 AM   #1
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are bad things only "owned" by Republicans who do them?

Trump is a liar,

Trump is now officially a politician. Lying in some form or other is primary political methodology.

a sexist,

He has placed women in key, very important positions in his administration. He has done so in his private business as well. He seems to adore and respect his wife and daughter. If divorce or unmarried sex is sexism, then most Americans are sexist.

an unbelievable egomaniac,

It is neither unbelievable, nor totally egomaniacal. He shows appreciation for work well done, and for things done for him personally, politically, and financially. And besides, he is now officially a politician. Big egos, as well as clever lying, are prerequisites for political office. For most, those are bad only when politicians on the other side are like that. For our guys, it's a good thing. You may be more of a political purist than you have expressed in the past. You are, though, backing his politics in spite of your personal dislike of him


and a bully.

Ditto the being a politician thing. His "bullying" is not as subtle as most, probably because he has so much and so many to fight against. And because his agenda is so radically opposed to what establishment politicians do who want to keep their power. He doesn't seem to care how "unpresidential" or politically incorrect he is. It doesn't seem that holding onto power above all else is what he is about.

His bullying may be more of a contentiousness against so much establishment opposition--including most of the media, the Democrat party, a big chunk of his own party, Holywood, entertainment shows, and his having been successfully demonized.


We know these things, we know them for a fact.
Maybe for a bit of fact, but more so as the very negative and overstated characterization of him successfully established by his opponents.

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Old 06-11-2017, 11:19 AM   #2
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"The study found that US Presidents exhibit elevated levels of grandiose narcissism compared with the general population, and that presidents' grandiose narcissism has been rising over time.

The relentless increases in extraversion and narcissism in US Presidents through history, which this study found, could stem, the authors speculate, from the heightened demands on political figures to be publicly charismatic and flamboyant, as media coverage gets more intense."

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...-does-ego-rule

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Old 06-11-2017, 02:07 PM   #3
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Maybe for a bit of fact, but more so as the very negative and overstated characterization of him successfully established by his opponents.
Agreed 100%. He isn't nearly as evil as he is portrayed to be. But I don't think he is a good guy. Bush 43 is a really good and decent person. Trump isn't the personification of evil, but not a good guy IMHO.

He bragged about the size of his hands, at a presidential debate. I still have a hard time digesting that.
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Old 06-11-2017, 07:19 PM   #4
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Agreed 100%. He isn't nearly as evil as he is portrayed to be. But I don't think he is a good guy. Bush 43 is a really good and decent person. Trump isn't the personification of evil, but not a good guy IMHO.

Sometimes "good guys" make lousy Presidents, and sometimes not-so-good guys are effective Presidents.

He bragged about the size of his hands, at a presidential debate. I still have a hard time digesting that.
The size of his hands thing was not braggadocio as much as a retort to a report that his hands were small (implying, idiotically, that his manhood member was therefor also small). It was Trump-like to respond to such idiocy, not Presidential, but he doesn't let anything go. Bush let too much go unanswered. Maybe you can suggest what the perfect balance is.

At any rate, Trump's showing the size of his hands was to disprove the idiotic allegation, not bragging. And, it was proven that the photo accompanying the idiotic article about the size of Trump's hands was photo-shopped--totally fabricated, as is the case in many accusations against Trump.
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The size of his hands thing was not braggadocio as much as a retort to a report that his hands were small (implying, idiotically, that his manhood member was therefor also small). It was Trump-like to respond to such idiocy, not Presidential, but he doesn't let anything go. Bush let too much go unanswered. Maybe you can suggest what the perfect balance is.

At any rate, Trump's showing the size of his hands was to disprove the idiotic allegation, not bragging. And, it was proven that the photo accompanying the idiotic article about the size of Trump's hands was photo-shopped--totally fabricated, as is the case in many accusations against Trump.
"Maybe you can suggest what the perfect balance is."

What Trey Gowdy would say, is the right answer. Not what Milo what's-his-face would say. I don't even know what words to use to describe Trump anymore. But if they re-did the election tomorrow, and he was the GOP nominee, I'd vote for him in a second.

"it was proven that the photo accompanying the idiotic article about "

Was the video feed fake too? Because his words there...I dunno.


"totally fabricated, as is the case in many accusations against Trump"

The media has gone completely off the deep end.
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