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Old 07-19-2022, 06:48 PM   #31
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Keep up the fantasyís

The Government controls how much oil is pumped

And everyone moving to Florida because itís political

And no one is moving to Southern California

You need to get out of your bubble itís not healthy

Ps when are you moving to your conservatives utopia Florida?
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the government has some impact on oil. Every sane person knows this.

If people are only moving to FL because of the weather and water ( and not because of politics, which drives cost), why arenít they moving to sourhern CA? are you saying they ARE moving to southern CA in big numbers?

Canít even tell what youíre saying. We can only tell itís gibberish.

Youíre getting scared about 2022 and it shows.
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Old 07-19-2022, 07:10 PM   #32
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Youíre getting scared about 2022 and it shows.

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and brandon would need a strong next couple of years...what are the chances

https://www.newsweek.com/biden-trump...result-1725961
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older data showing that in 2016, population exodus cost CT 2.6B. this will
change as with covid, lots of rich Manhattanites moved in.

https://yankeeinstitute.org/2018/10/...ation-in-2016/
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Old 07-19-2022, 07:59 PM   #34
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and brandon would need a strong next couple of years...what are the chances

https://www.newsweek.com/biden-trump...result-1725961
zero. even if it gets better, people
will remember. The gop can win with a campaign slogan thatís two wordsÖ

ďhad enough?Ē

i canít see Biden running again. I just canít.

iíd like to see Desantis run against Newsom or Liz Warren or Pete Buttigieg. Freak show.

How come the democrats have no bench? None!
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Old 07-20-2022, 05:47 AM   #35
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Had enough?

Massive erosion of support for Republicans among seniors:
65+
May 37D - 62R
July 49D - 47R
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Old 07-20-2022, 06:00 AM   #36
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Massive erosion of support for Republicans among seniors:
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May 37D - 62R
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did you, or Joe Scarborough just make this up to give yourselves some hope?....I hope you find comfort in this because there is none elsewhere
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Hereís the chance that a kid born in the bottom 20% of the income distribution eventually reaches the top 20%, depending on where they live.

Red states are not the land of opportunity.

https://inequality.stanford.edu/site...c-mobility.pdf
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Old 07-20-2022, 07:52 AM   #38
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Hereís the chance that a kid born in the bottom 20% of the income distribution eventually reaches the top 20%, depending on where they live.

Red states are not the land of opportunity.

https://inequality.stanford.edu/site...c-mobility.pdf
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Easy fix if you care about the people less fortunate than yourself - increase the taxes in those red states and improve the schools, infrastructure, etc. But then you can't claim your state is so good bc taxes aren't low (while still getting $ from the blue states that pay far more in taxes to the Fed than they get back).
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Old 07-20-2022, 08:16 AM   #39
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Easy fix if you care about the people less fortunate than yourself - increase the taxes in those red states and improve the schools, infrastructure, etc. But then you can't claim your state is so good bc taxes aren't low (while still getting $ from the blue states that pay far more in taxes to the Fed than they get back).
thatís if you believe that spending money solves everything. hartford spends $19k to educate each kid, and the schools stink.

do t let facts get in the way.

thereís a reason why people are moving there. i know you all hate that reason, but facts donít care whether or not you like those facts.

Yes, better bridges and roads will end poverty.

why oppose school choice if you claim to want to help these people?
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thatís if you believe that spending money solves everything. hartford spends $19k to educate each kid, and the schools stink.

do t let facts get in the way.

thereís a reason why people are moving there. i know you all hate that reason, but facts donít care whether or not you like those facts.

Yes, better bridges and roads will end poverty.

why oppose school choice if you claim to want to help these people?
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You're an actuary. There is a pretty good correlation between the states that have higher taxes and better education systems, where the people seem to live longer and now we know have a better chance of success.

You're a one trick pony - you only care about lower taxes. It benefits you bc you make enough that you can make up for the crappy schools, etc. in those red states where the better off have no empathy or compassion for those people who aren't as well off.
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You're an actuary. There is a pretty good correlation between the states that have higher taxes and better education systems, where the people seem to live longer and now we know have a better chance of success.

You're a one trick pony - you only care about lower taxes. It benefits you bc you make enough that you can make up for the crappy schools, etc. in those red states where the better off have no empathy or compassion for those people who aren't as well off.
i high end mercedes is better than a honda accord. but to many people, itís not worth the extra cost.

iím nothing close to a one trick pony. i care about taxes and what you get in return. thatís what most people care about. and many are deciding that blue states arenít worth the cost.
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taxes AND what you get in return. not just taxes. i donít always lol for cheapest price. But most people
look for the best value. cost is one part of value, not the only part.

If you canít concede that cost and benefit are two different things, you have issues.

Not just taxes. Taxes, combines with an honest discussion of what one gets in return.

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Old 07-20-2022, 08:48 AM   #42
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i high end mercedes is better than a honda accord. but to many people, itís not worth the extra cost.

iím nothing close to a one trick pony. i care about taxes and what you get in returnthat is what I said - you only care about taxes.. thatís what most people care about. and many are deciding that blue states arenít worth the cost.
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Sure you are, you only name taxes as the reason people are leaving while ignoring other things. I agree people are leaving for lower taxes (and other reasons like weather) and many of them are the older folks who made their $ in the better blue states and have no need/care for the better schools, etc. in the blue states so the crappy schools in the red states don't matter to them. They can still get their gov. sponsored and funded health ins. no matter where they live.

Imagine how much worse those red states would be if there wasn't that transfer of many billions of blue state taxes to the poor red states every month.
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You're an actuary. There is a pretty good correlation between the states that have higher taxes and better education systems, where the people seem to live longer and now we know have a better chance of success.

You're a one trick pony - you only care about lower taxes. It benefits you bc you make enough that you can make up for the crappy schools, etc. in those red states where the better off have no empathy or compassion for those people who aren't as well off.
paul there are beautiful suburbs in NH ( Hollis, Brookline, Bedford, Amherst, Bow) where they canít build $600,000 houses fast enough, with the best public schools in the state.

NH has no income tax, no sales tax. Over 40 years, thatís over 200k in savings to many families. in my case itís probably close to 300k.

What am i getting in CT, that i wouldnít get if i lived in NH? Whatís the state of CT doing for me thatís worth $300k more than what is get i. NH?

The university of NH is cheaper than UCONN as well.

Please tell me what iím getting for all that extra cost? Because i canít think of anything.

Many people are coming to the same realization.

You think social services are well
funded in. CT? ask someone who works for DCF how much their funding has been cut.
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paul there are beautiful suburbs in NH ( Hollis, Brookline, Bedford, Amherst, Bow) where they canít build $600,000

Their mostly residents who work in mass ! corrections officers have doing for years .. I know many who it just like I know many who live in RI and work in Mass prisons better pay and benefits then Ri. We call these border towns mass settlements and mass residents have drove the mile to also buy cigarettes and booze in NH

But no one is moving to NH for jobs. Thatís the Truth
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paul there are beautiful suburbs in NH ( Hollis, Brookline, Bedford, Amherst, Bow) where they canít build $600,000

Their mostly residents who work in mass ! corrections officers have doing for years .. I know many who it just like I know many who live in RI and work in Mass prisons better pay and benefits then Ri. We call these border towns mass settlements and mass residents have drove the mile to also buy cigarettes and booze in NH

But no one is moving to NH for jobs
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show me the data please, which says most people in all those areas work in Mass. Because you made it up.

Liberty Mutual has TONS of jobs in NH. Tons of data science and white collar jobs. You just make chit up.

And now, most white collar jobs can be done at home. People can work and live anywhere, which will
lead to many more people
leaving blue states for red states. Itís just beginning.
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And now, most white collar jobs can be done at home. People can work and live anywhere, which will
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leaving blue states for red states. Itís just beginning.
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Which proves my point. That the opportunities are much much better for the educated in the blues states. If you wanted to succeed you needed to be in the blue states which taxed their residents and used the $ for schools/infrastructure, etc. That was reflected in the much much higher GDP per capita. Tech (WFH) may help the red states somewhat but they still will have a lot of shortcomings due to not having the $ to improve things (although the richer blue cites/counties will be better off than the red counties).
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More than 100 thousand New Hampshire residents work in Massachusetts.
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If you wanted to succeed you needed to be in the blue states
good grief,,,,,
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Imagine how much worse those red states would be if there wasn't that transfer of many billions of blue state taxes to the poor red states every month.
probably cease to exist....
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good grief,,,,,
thereís no white collar jobs in charlotte NC. None.
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the condescension is amazing...
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Which proves my point. That the opportunities are much much better for the educated in the blues states. If you wanted to succeed you needed to be in the blue states which taxed their residents and used the $ for schools/infrastructure, etc. That was reflected in the much much higher GDP per capita. Tech (WFH) may help the red states somewhat but they still will have a lot of shortcomings due to not having the $ to improve things (although the richer blue cites/counties will be better off than the red counties).
"opportunities are much much better for the educated in the blues states"

Tell that to everyone working in Atlanta and Charlotte NC.

Paul, there are places in red states where I'd NEVER want to live. But there are also places in red states that are very cheap and have a high quality of life. There are exactly zero places in blue states (that I know of) which are very cheap and offer a good quality of life for normal families.

Can you name one nice suburb in a liberal state, which has super low taxes and yet offers a high quality of life? Places like Atlanta, Charlotte, Nashville, Dallas, etc??? I don't know of one single such place. Can you name any?

Historically, large companies had reasons to locate in big cities, which tend to be liberal. Nowadays, people and companies are making different choices.
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the condescension is amazing...
Equal parts condescension and denial.
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of course there is. It is a blue city so its economy drives that whole NC region.

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"opportunities are much much better for the educated in the blues states"

Tell that to everyone working in Atlanta and Charlotte NC. You mean those blue cities?

Paul, there are places in red states where I'd NEVER want to live. But there are also places in red states that are very cheap and have a high quality of life. There are exactly zero places in blue states (that I know of) which are very cheap and offer a good quality of life for normal families.

Can you name one nice suburb in a liberal state, which has super low taxes and yet offers a high quality of life? Places like Atlanta, Charlotte, Nashville, Dallas, etc??? I don't know of one single such place. Can you name any?

Historically, large companies had reasons to locate in big cities, which tend to be liberal. Nowadays, people and companies are making different choices.
You're asking about the liberal cities? They have some of the highest quality of life in the red states. NC is equally divided 1/3 R, D and Ind. The legislature is gerrymandered to be red.

You keep naming liberal cities and using those as examples of places with high quality of life but are unable to show red states that lead the country in the "good" (like Pete and I have) categories other than low taxes.
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good grief,,,,,
typical snarky comeback.
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Equal parts condescension and denial.
Yet you deny that the quality of life is better in the blue states/counties than the red states.
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Yet you deny that the quality of life is better in the blue states/counties than the red states.
I asked you what i get in CT from the state,,which I wouldnít get in NH or NC. Seems like a very obvious question. Did you answer?

Quality of life might be better in blue states, i donít deny that, but only if you have the money to pay the exorbitant price tag. The question is, is the improvement in quality of life in blue states, worth the cost of living in blue states? A huge number of americans believe the answer is no, and they are moving as a result.
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You're asking about the liberal cities? They have some of the highest quality of life in the red states. NC is equally divided 1/3 R, D and Ind. The legislature is gerrymandered to be red.

You keep naming liberal cities and using those as examples of places with high quality of life but are unable to show red states that lead the country in the "good" (like Pete and I have) categories other than low taxes.
for the third time. please list some places to live in blue states, which offer a high quality of life with very low taxes.

I can name many places in red states that fit that exact description. Can you name any places in any blue states that fit that description?

Seems like youíre doing everything you can to avoid answering. Gee, I wonder why?
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I asked you what i get in CT from the state,,which I wouldnít get in NH or NC. Seems like a very obvious question. Did you answer?Didn't see you ask that question.

Quality of life might be better in blue states, i donít deny that, but only if you have the money to pay the exorbitant price tag. The question is, is the improvement in quality of life in blue states, worth the cost of living in blue states? A huge number of americans believe the answer is no, and they are moving as a result.
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For the average person living in Ct they are better off bc of more services. Some (you but not everyone is an actuary) it might not be. You can move to the "best" city (prob. liberal or close to a major liberal city) in a red state and pay to live in a town whose taxes are higher and has better schools. Salaries for many are higher in Ct bc of higher cost of living and I think the aver. higher sal. out weights the aver. higher tax burden.
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