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Old 03-01-2018, 09:00 AM   #1
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In pictures: US gun-blessing ceremony

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43231638

2 of the most dangerous things on the planet Religion and guns and under 1 roof ... Imagine if that was in a mosque


Another gun related story Trump said the NRA has "great power over you people", but that the lobby has "less power over me".

lets see how this plays out
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Old 03-01-2018, 09:02 AM   #2
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Mosques are against guns and violence
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Old 03-01-2018, 09:17 AM   #3
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or so they tell us

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Old 03-01-2018, 10:24 AM   #4
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43231638

2 of the most dangerous things on the planet Religion and guns and under 1 roof ... Imagine if that was in a mosque


Another gun related story Trump said the NRA has "great power over you people", but that the lobby has "less power over me".

lets see how this plays out
Wow - full blown Spence segue, take something very crazy then broadbrush a lot of others immediately after.


Did you read the article? Moonies. Ever hear of them? Jonestown without the Koolaid.

This is a crazy stylized foolish ceremony (btw - very Russian like) that is in the realm of beyond crazy almost to trying to catch a comet by its tail crazy.



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Old 03-01-2018, 10:52 AM   #5
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take something very crazy then broadbrush a lot of others immediately after.

Like that doesn't happen here all the time.

I didn't read the article.
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Old 03-01-2018, 11:05 AM   #6
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My point is simple theses are the people that set the public face to the gun issue .. not Normal gun owners they are being dragged alongside people like this and people like wayne lapierre or Dana Loesch? and others with their outrageous claims .. and how they address gun violence with tired cliches.. and an intractable postition

Be part of the solution or the solution will be made with out you..

I am not anti gun I am anti the 2a guys say I can have what i want when I want it . ( and why should I have to wait 1 day or 30 days to buy a gun or are against Gun Registration .. or pay for your own background check or have a different class licenses for fire arm Classes.. we do it with a drivers Licenses for things from buses to tractor trailers . it works why not with guns ?


Laws requiring gun owners to register their firearms ensure gun owner accountability and help law enforcement solve crimes and disarm criminals. Despite the clear advantages inherent in registration laws, few states have such laws on the books—and some prohibit them outright.


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My point is simple theses are the people that set the public face to the gun issue ..
No, these are the people that the media is Trying to make the public face of the gun issue....

the people you keep arguing with are the ones that are trying to set the public face of the gun issue, but they seem to get ignored, or lumped in with these morons.

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This is a crazy stylized foolish ceremony (btw - very Russian like) that is in the realm of beyond crazy almost to trying to catch a comet by its tail crazy.
But I guarantee you it's being reported in some countries like everyday American life. Just like we do to them...
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Old 03-01-2018, 01:44 PM   #9
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But I guarantee you it's being reported in some countries like everyday American life. Just like we do to them...
Everyday Christian American life, getting ready to deal with Muslims.
Just like some believe all Muslims are............

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So they have fake news too?
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In the early 70s I was working at Killington. It was a terrible snow year. Skiing with a friend of mine and we decided to make up a snowstorm. Everytime we got in the liftline we talked about this big dump that was coming. By the end of the day everyone was talking about how it was going to snow 3' starting that night.
People hear what they want to believe and if it is what they would like will broadcast it far and wide.
Back then we called it bull#^&#^&#^&#^&.

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Unions, companies, churches etc. shouldn't be allowed to make political donations.
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I’d get a blessing my rods if I would be guaranteed a 50...

I have bigger headscatching over Billy Graham lying in state in the Capitol. And that isn’t a knock on him as a man or his faith, but I is a bit odd...
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If Trump can actually get some new restrictions on acquiring firearms my guess is that you will still be whining about something.
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Very intuitive. There is no shortage, eh comrade?

No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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If Trump can actually get some new restrictions on acquiring firearms my guess is that you will still be whining about something.
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Seems this post went over your head

Trump made the statement

2a guys flipped out

Trumps backed away from statement #1

So if pointing out the flip flops from his mouth is just whining clearly you don't care what this man say's or what he does
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...a bump stock is not a gun. No different then AR dosn't mean assault rifle.. >>>

so your rights were never violated by the banning of bump stocks
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...a bump stock is not a gun. No different then AR dosn't mean assault rifle.. >>>

so your rights were never violated by the banning of bump stocks
And their rights wouldn't be violated by banning assault weapons either. Even in the Heller case the SC didn't say the government couldn't ban certain types of weapons.
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Just wait till some states ban ammunition because they're not guns LOL
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An ex post facto law (corrupted from Latin: ex postfacto, lit. 'out of the aftermath') is a law that retroactively changes the legal consequences (or status) of actions that were committed, or relationships that existed, before the enactment of the law.

Ex post facto laws are expressly forbidden by the United States Constitution in Article 1, Section 9, Clause 3 (with respect to federal laws) and Article 1, Section 10 (with respect to state laws).

Property that was attained while legal and then banned and confiscated absolutely DOES violate rights. And if it ever goes to court before a judge that is not a liberal constitutional tyrant, then it would be overturned.




The argument about modern firearms are not what the 2A was for is horsecrap, The British had what the people had, and when they wanted to disarm the people, the revolution began. You can believe whatever you want about what can be banned or should be banned and we are never going to agree apparently. I know what is right and what is wrong. Did a bunch of ranchers armed with AR-15's win a standoff with the feds? yes they did.

If the country goes over the ledge to socialism, that is when you will finally realize you are left with Communism and wonder how it happened.

The United States Constitution does not exist to grant you rights; those rights are inherent within you. Rather it exists to frame a limited government so that those natural rights can be exercised freely.
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Property that was attained while legal and then banned and confiscated absolutely DOES violate rights. And if it ever goes to court before a judge that is not a liberal constitutional tyrant, then it would be overturned.
1) Doesn't mean you can't ban new sales and

2) Doesn't mean you can't add registration requirements and sale transfer requirements onto existing weapons.
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Did a bunch of ranchers armed with AR-15's win a standoff with the feds? yes they did.
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That is kind of a stretch. Had the Feds wanted to win the standoff, it would have been over it seconds. They didn't want the repercussions of doing it.
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That is kind of a stretch. Had the Feds wanted to win the standoff, it would have been over it seconds. They didn't want the repercussions of doing it.
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Not to mention the ranchers were wrong to begin with.
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this was on fox Tucker Carlson

“Imagine if Barack Obama had said that? ‘Just ignore due process and confiscating guns.’ Obama would have been denounced as a dictator,” Carlson said on Thursday. “Congress would be talking impeachment right now. Someone would be muttering about secession.”

not sure if he is asking why this isn't happening or just for once see's how hypocritical the base is?

Went to see the comments which are very telling and no where on the 1st page of comments was there a critical comment against Trump he was mentioned 1 time here is the comment

What Fiasco. President Trump is battling the Democratic Communist Party, the Rhinos, the push towards a NWO,

http://www.breitbart.com/video/2018/...ke-guns-first/


I am sure they wont see an issue with this one as well ,,Trump praises Chinese president extending tenure 'for life'


“He’s now president for life, president for life. And he’s great,” Trump said, according to audio of excerpts of Trump’s remarks at a closed-door fundraiser in Florida “And look, he was able to do that. I think it’s great. Maybe we’ll have to give that a shot someday,” Trump said to cheers and applause from supporters.

this is the part that scares me^^^^
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Correct
I didn’t say it did

Banning something for future is one thing
Banning it retroactively is another.

States are allowed to put restrictions
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Yes, It is 126 pages. Not going to list the specific individual weapons banned as new models would replace the banned ones.

Semi-automatic rifles and pistols with a military-style feature that can accept a detachable magazine;

· Semi-automatic rifles with a fixed magazine that can hold more than 10 rounds;

· Semi-automatic shotguns with a military-style feature;

· Any ammunition feeding device that can hold more than 10 rounds;

It won't pass anyway, but a semi-auto .45 pistol or the semi-auto rifle with a 10 round fixed magazine would be legal if it didn't have a folding stock or the grips.
Did you read something different than that?

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No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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Russian politician Alexander Torshin said his ties to the NRA provided him access to Donald Trump — and the opportunity to serve as a foreign election observer in the United States during the 2012 election.

Just Another cherry off the nothing to see here Tree
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Russia funneling money through the NRA to help Trump? Say it ain’t so.
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