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scottw · 08-18-2011, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by spence

I'd mention the timeline of the massive recession but you guys would accuse me of that "context" thing again.

-spence

noone takes you seriously anymore, so go right ahead....

JohnnyD · 08-18-2011, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw

funny, the same knuckleheads that lapped up and voted for this crap can't wait to jump on Bachmann with both feet

Like economics, you seem to have trouble understanding what it means when someone says neither candidate was a good choice but they chose the lesser of two evils.

spence · 08-19-2011, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by scottw

noone takes you seriously anymore, so go right ahead....

For someone who doesn't take me seriously you sure spend a lot of time plotting your cut and paste.

-spence

UserRemoved1 · 08-19-2011, 03:35 AM

MOST EXCELLENT. Maybe JohnR can make that his avatar

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Originally Posted by scottw

noone takes you seriously anymore, so go right ahead....

buckman · 08-19-2011, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by RIROCKHOUND

look two posts up

"The only way we can try to reduce the price of gas effectively — or at least, shield Americans from the economic burden of high prices — is through more fuel-efficient cars,"

I didn't see this coming

buckman · 08-19-2011, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by spence

I'd mention the timeline of the massive recession but you guys would accuse me of that "context" thing again.

Perhaps Bachmann is actually promising another big recession?

-spence

Would it start with the booming economy Bush inherited?

I don't think this recession is solved there Spence...I'm pretty sure your guy has us heading into a deeper recession..

justplugit · 08-19-2011, 07:03 AM

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"The only way we can try to reduce the price of gas effectively — or at least, shield Americans from the economic burden of high prices — is through more fuel-efficient cars,"

Ya mean like the example our President just set by using 41 vechicles including SUVs , big cars and a new million + dollar bus he used on his trip last week?

Wonder if he'll use the taxpayers 1 + million $$ bus for his 2012
campaign? Something like FDR's private train car as they drove across
the nation with him waving from the back of the train?.

JohnnyD · 08-19-2011, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by justplugit

Wonder if he'll use the taxpayers 1 + million $$ bus for his 2012
campaign? Something like FDR's private train car as they drove across
the nation with him waving from the back of the train?.

He will. Along with the Republican nominee, Vice President and Speaker of the house.

detbuch · 08-19-2011, 08:59 AM

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Sadly, this applies to most elected officials though...

I agree with the gist of your comment with the caveat that most officials may have read the Constitution, but may not have understood it. Not that it is hard to understand, but that they have accepted its current distortion.

The picture, though telling of current congressional ignorance of the Constitution, is obviously political in that it's Bachman's face rather than a group picture of Congress, the POTUS, and the SCOTUS. She may have made a gaff or two about the Constitution, but she seems to have a deeper understanding of it and its original intent than most. One supposed gaff was her questioning of Geithner wanting to know where in the Constitution he and the Federal Reserve had the power to act as they had the past two years. He said that the power was granted by Congress. Sounds reasonable? This was supposed, by her critics, to show her ignorance of the Constitution. Actually, nowhere in the Constitution is Congress allowed to delegate its powers to autonomous, unaccountable, independant agencies. This also applies to the myriad of independant regulatory agencies created by Congress--EPA, FDA, etc.. They are units of government having self-contained legislative, executive, and judicial powers. Little agencies of tyranny with no accountability. Congress can, blamelessy, have unpopular legislation and regulation passed by these agencies. The Constitution gives Congress specified powers of legislation and regulation for which it will be responsible and answer to at election time. It does not give Congress the power to bypass that responsibility by delegating it to another unelected agency which is not accountable to the people.

justplugit · 08-19-2011, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyD

He will. Along with the Republican nominee, Vice President and Speaker of the house.

Ya JD, but who do think paid for his bus?
Him, or you and I ?

What's a million + $$$ right?
That thing has to be armored so take a
guess of mpg and carbon Boot print.

JohnnyD · 08-19-2011, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by justplugit

Ya JD, but who do think paid for his bus?
Him, or you and I ?

What's a million + $$$ right?
That thing has to be armored so take a
guess of mpg and carbon Boot print.

You haven't read up about the bus at all, have you? The Secret Service has historically leased buses, installed reinforcement, installed security systems and communication systems and then, when the lease is up, they have to strip it all out.

These buses aren't a new concept within their protection system. The difference is now that they own the cow, instead of buying the milk. In the long term, I'd bet that it will provide a net-savings.

buckman · 08-19-2011, 12:06 PM

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In the long term, I'd bet that it will provide a net-savings.

and help put Americans back to work!!...Oh wait.."made in Canada"

scottw · 08-19-2011, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by spence

For someone who doesn't take me seriously you sure spend a lot of time plotting your cut and paste.

-spence

I didn't say that you weren't amusing and in constant need of correction..just impossible to take seriously with your constant distortions of reality

justplugit · 08-19-2011, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyD

These buses aren't a new concept within their protection system. The difference is now that they own the cow, instead of buying the milk. In the long term, I'd bet that it will provide a net-savings.

As it stays in some garage until he takes it on his next campaign trip?

Michele should have taken it to the vineyard.

spence · 08-19-2011, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by scottw

I didn't say that you weren't amusing and in constant need of correction..just impossible to take seriously with your constant distortions of reality

If it's a distortion why correct it?

-spence

spence · 08-19-2011, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by justplugit

As it stays in some garage until he takes it on his next campaign trip?

I thought these were to be used by the SS when protecting anyone, the assumption is that Republican officials and candidates will be included as well.

It seems like the SS has made a long-term cost effective decision that's a better use of taxpayer money.

-spence

spence · 08-19-2011, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by buckman

Would it start with the booming economy Bush inherited?

I don't think this recession is solved there Spence...I'm pretty sure your guy has us heading into a deeper recession..

Bush inherited an economy slipping into a recession as the tech bubble burst, but even with 9/11 nothing like the credit bubble in 2008.

The thing is, people believe the President has way more influence over this stuff than they really do. The major economic trends are driven by larger factors than US policy, we may influence, but don't dictate.

-spence

scottw · 08-19-2011, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by spence

If it's a distortion why correct it?

-spence

huh? I'm sure that you'd love to have all of your distortions and spin stand without correction or challenge...

justplugit · 08-19-2011, 07:39 PM

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It seems like the SS has made a long-term cost effective decision that's a better use of taxpayer money.

-spence

If that's the case, we need to have the SS make the decisions for our budget and spending.

Oh thats right, we don't have a budget.

spence · 08-19-2011, 08:07 PM

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huh? I'm sure that you'd love to have all of your distortions and spin stand without correction or challenge...

Scott, it's been several years...I'm just waiting for a decent retort.

-spence

spence · 08-19-2011, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by justplugit

If that's the case, we need to have the SS make the decisions for our budget and spending.

Ummmm, huh?

-spence

scottw · 08-19-2011, 08:37 PM

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Scott, it's been several years...I'm just waiting for a decent retort.

-spence

that really hurts coming from the King of Dishonest Debate

JohnnyD · 08-19-2011, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by justplugit

As it stays in some garage until he takes it on his next campaign trip?

Michele should have taken it to the vineyard.

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Originally Posted by spence

I thought these were to be used by the SS when protecting anyone, the assumption is that Republican officials and candidates will be included as well.

It seems like the SS has made a long-term cost effective decision that's a better use of taxpayer money.

-spence

spence, I mentioned this like 4 posts up. However, instead of taking an objective position, people just want to bitch for the sake of bitching without actually looking at the facts.

justplugit · 08-20-2011, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by spence

Ummmm, huh?

-spence

Right over your head.

justplugit · 08-20-2011, 07:46 AM

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spence, I mentioned this like 4 posts up. However, instead of taking an objective position, people just want to bitch for the sake of bitching without actually looking at the facts.

Ya, i should of googled WH buses.

I do gotta say I do take a lot of this stuff with tounge in cheek.

spence · 08-20-2011, 08:50 AM

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Right over your head.

No, I just thought it was a dumb comment.
Posted from my iPhone/Mobile device

JohnnyD · 08-20-2011, 09:24 AM

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I do gotta say I do take a lot of this stuff with tounge in cheek.

Same. It's pretty much been the exact same conversation over and over for the last 3 years. Thus why I've just started posting ridiculous pictures in most threads.