nts to pay off unins to stop whining about Obamacare

[spence]

Before you guys get too far off topic, can I just remind everyone again that Jim got this story completely wrong. Hell if anything he should be praising the POTUS.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

Before you guys get too far off topic, can I just remind everyone again that Jim got this story completely wrong. Hell if anything he should be praising the POTUS.
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Obama said Obamacare would lower healthcare costs. true


Even his most staunch supporters, big labor, know that's not what's happening, so they complain. true

Reports are that the White House is looking at a proposal that would offer subsidies of $20 billion a year, to help union members, and only union members, pay for Obamacare premiums. true

This, from the guy who said that his election would end politics as usual? true

Spence, Paul S, any liberal here...please tell me why union members deserve this subsidy, and everyone else does not? If this isn't a classic Chicago-style payoff, what the heck is it? good question maybe Jim didn't know that the administration declined the request regretfully "A senior administration official said the White House looked at several ways to make the union plans eligible for subsidies but couldn’t find one." but they tried real hard

Labor officials met privately with President Barack Obama, Vice President Joe Biden and Labor Secretary Tom Perez on Friday afternoon to press their case that the Affordable Care Act will have consequences for the benefits of union employees. wow...a private audience, they must be special!

How long, O Lord? true

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Before you guys get too far off topic, can I just remind everyone again that Jim got this story completely wrong. Hell if anything he should be praising the POTUS.
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Spence, according to what I posted (which may not have been true, I'm sure you know more than those folks) the White House was considering a bill which would offer subsidies to those in labor unions.

And Spence, let's not forget...when Obamacare was first passed, Obama said the bill would tax cadillac health plans, EXCEPT for those in unions . The country went berserk, and Obama backed off. But his initial thought was to tax all cadillac health plans, except those for union members. He thought that was, somehow, fair.

Try making that wrong, comrade.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Before you guys get too far off topic, can I just remind everyone again that Jim got this story completely wrong. Hell if anything he should be praising the POTUS.
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Instead of lobbing insults, please tell us with specificity, how I got this all wrong. Is it incorrect to say that the White House was considering subsidies for unions, Spence?

As I said, Obama tried to give subsidies to the unions, right off the bat with Obamacare, in the form of a tax loophole for cadillac plans that were for unions. Do you deny that? Want me to dredge that up for you?