So the local friendly Antifa...

[JohnR]

So the local friendly Antifa (that does not exist, thanks Spence) have apparently "appropriated" a sizeable section of Seattle, Gone Full On Lord of the Flies, and have declared it the Capital Hill Autonomous Zone, A/K/A the CHAZ.


There is speak of armed factions and "warlords". If this wasn't so disappointing it might be more comical. Gawd I hope nobody gets killed.



https://www.reddit.com/r/CapHillAutonomousZone/

[scottw]

they've done a FABULOUS job decorating the place.....

also...


"CNN's Angela Rye called for statues of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson to come down Thursday on the network."

"Pelosi wants 11 Confederate statues removed from Capitol"



we should tear down all of our monuments and statues, hell all of our government buildings ....then we could start all over.... make everybody happy

[spence]

Yep, here’s your Antifa...

11:06 pm, Jun. 10, 2020
CHAZ protesters spend the night organizing a concert and movie night

Capitol Hill protesters — or denizens of the new "Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone" — spent another night by the Seattle Police Department's East Precinct listening to speakers, sharing food, dancing and creating colorful street art.

A small concert popped up at one intersection during the night, featuring funk/hip-hop band Marshall Law, a group based in Seattle. A cardboard sign was propped up in front of the band's makeshift stage. It read: "Defund the police, fund the community, free all protesters."

"What we're doing here — it's for a purpose," one of the band members said after the show, according to a livestream of the event.

After Marshall Law wrapped up their performance, it was time for another movie night.

On Tuesday night, the group rolled out a large projector and watched Ava DuVernay's "13th," a documentary that focuses on the racial injustice of the country's criminal justice system. On Wednesday, they screened "Paris is Burning," which features drag queens living in New York City during the mid-to-late 1980s.
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[scottw]

watching movies, eating popcorn and spray painting other people's property...sounds like a great night out on the town

[scottw]

it sounds like they are really having fun...I think I'd just wait and see where this goes....maybe send Discovery Channel in there with some cameras, this would be great reality tv...

"The city government has not developed a strategic response to the takeover of Capitol Hill. According to one Seattle police officer with knowledge of internal deliberations, the city’s “leadership is in chaos” and “the mayor has made the decision to let a mob of 1,000 people dictate public safety policy for a city of 750,000.” The officer said that Chief Best had dispatched high-ranking police officials to the autonomous zone to establish a line of communication, but the officials were immediately sent away by armed paramilitaries at the barricades. “The tide of public opinion is on the side of the activists and they’re pushing the envelope as far as they can,” said the officer. “It’s not hyperbolic to say the endgame is anarchy.”

Politically, the Seattle City Council has already begun to champion the protesters’ demands. Socialist Alternative councilwoman Kshama Sawant declared the takeover a “victory” against “the militarized police force of the political establishment and the capitalist state.” Three councilmembers have signaled support for a 50 percent reduction in the police budget, with additional councilmembers likely to support a similar policy in the coming weeks. Sawant also opened Seattle’s City Hall—which had been closed by the mayor—to protesters, who immediately occupied the building.

The Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone has set a dangerous precedent: armed left-wing activists have asserted their dominance of the streets and established an alternative political authority over a large section of a neighborhood. They have claimed de facto police power over thousands of residents and dozens of businesses—completely outside of the democratic process. In a matter of days, Antifa-affiliated paramilitaries have created a hardened border, established a rudimentary form of government based on principles of intersectional representation, and forcibly removed unfriendly media from the territory."

[scottw]

this is truly awful....no mother should have to worry that her darling child's skull will be crushed by a statue/monument while in the process for defacing and dismantling that statue/monument in the quest for social justice.....there should be a law against statues/monuments....



https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...ginia-n1229706

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by scottw

they've done a FABULOUS job decorating the place.....

also...


"CNN's Angela Rye called for statues of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson to come down Thursday on the network."

"Pelosi wants 11 Confederate statues removed from Capitol"



we should tear down all of our monuments and statues, hell all of our government buildings ....then we could start all over.... make everybody happy

There should be no Confederate Statues in Washington DC. But when do they come for Washington and Jefferson?

Originally Posted by spence

Yep, here’s your Antifa...

11:06 pm, Jun. 10, 2020
CHAZ protesters spend the night organizing a concert and movie night

Capitol Hill protesters — or denizens of the new "Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone" — spent another night by the Seattle Police Department's East Precinct listening to speakers, sharing food, dancing and creating colorful street art.

A small concert popped up at one intersection during the night, featuring funk/hip-hop band Marshall Law, a group based in Seattle. A cardboard sign was propped up in front of the band's makeshift stage. It read: "Defund the police, fund the community, free all protesters."

"What we're doing here — it's for a purpose," one of the band members said after the show, according to a livestream of the event.

After Marshall Law wrapped up their performance, it was time for another movie night.

On Tuesday night, the group rolled out a large projector and watched Ava DuVernay's "13th," a documentary that focuses on the racial injustice of the country's criminal justice system. On Wednesday, they screened "Paris is Burning," which features drag queens living in New York City during the mid-to-late 1980s.
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Awwww cute. Bunch of little commies and Democratic Socialists creating little points of order while waiting for vegan meat substitutes and soy deliveries while the PortaPotty company says Eff No we ain't going there.

Meanwhile, what about the people that live in those areas and just want some level of normalcy and fairness.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by spence

Yep, here’s your Antifa...

11:06 pm, Jun. 10, 2020
CHAZ protesters spend the night organizing a concert and movie night

Capitol Hill protesters — or denizens of the new "Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone" — spent another night by the Seattle Police Department's East Precinct listening to speakers, sharing food, dancing and creating colorful street art.

A small concert popped up at one intersection during the night, featuring funk/hip-hop band Marshall Law, a group based in Seattle. A cardboard sign was propped up in front of the band's makeshift stage. It read: "Defund the police, fund the community, free all protesters."

"What we're doing here — it's for a purpose," one of the band members said after the show, according to a livestream of the event.

After Marshall Law wrapped up their performance, it was time for another movie night.

On Tuesday night, the group rolled out a large projector and watched Ava DuVernay's "13th," a documentary that focuses on the racial injustice of the country's criminal justice system. On Wednesday, they screened "Paris is Burning," which features drag queens living in New York City during the mid-to-late 1980s.
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All fun and games until the utility bills come due, and they shut off water, gas, and electricity.

Then, no movies, no hot meals or showers, phones die, wifi dies. I'm sure they'll all still get along swimmingly though.

Mad Max movies always have a happy ending
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

All fun and games until the utility bills come due, and they shut off water, gas, and electricity.

Then, no movies, no hot meals or showers, phones die, wifi dies. I'm sure they'll all still get along swimmingly though.

Mad Max movies always have a happy ending
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look on the bright side...so far it's mainly woke sanctuary cities tearing themselves down...will be fun to see these mayors and governors begging for federal funds to help clean up the mess

you have to hear the back and forth between the Chicago mayor and the Alderman that was released....unbelievable...the news report cut out the part where the Alderman described what was going on in his neighborhoods





should be a class action lawsuit suing the City and it's officials for not protecting their citizens

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

All fun and games until the utility bills come due, and they shut off water, gas, and electricity.

Then, no movies, no hot meals or showers, phones die, wifi dies. I'm sure they'll all still get along swimmingly though.

Mad Max movies always have a happy ending
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There's also business owners saying they are being extorted by civilians with guns, telling them they have to pay a fee to operate in the anarchy zone. And homeowners having to show id to enter their homes.

I'm actually just learning about this story. Hard to believe it's not an SNL skit. The lesson here, is that if a bunch of anarchist babies don't like something, if they hold their breath long enough, the state will surrender?

So can I just not pay my state income tax in CT, with no consequences?

"they shut off water, gas, and electricity"

I'm guessing the city will tell the utility companies to just leave the power on for free. Whatever these idiots want.

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

There's also business owners saying they are being extorted by civilians with guns, telling them they have to pay a fee to operate in the anarchy zone. And homeowners having to show id to enter their homes.

Link!

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Link!

https://www.foxnews.com/us/seattle-p...sses-extortion

Why do you ask for a link? If you saw video of this happening, you'd spin and deny anyway

[afterhours]

JR - you were right it's coming, way sooner than i thought.

[spence]

Originally Posted by afterhours

JR - you were right it's coming, way sooner than i thought.

What, John mischaracterizing things to fit his own paranoia? He’s been doing it for a while.
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[Pete F.]

Tweety's trying to keep you scared, it's all he has left to run on.
After a week of trying to "police" the protesters, the decision was made to let them protest and not have police present.
So far it has been trouble free and it won't last long.

President Donald Trump addressed Seattle's protests on Twitter Wednesday evening, calling for Gov. Jay Inslee and Mayor Jenny Durkan to "take back" their city from the "anarchists." If they don't, he threatened, he will.

Durkan tweeted back within the hour: "Make us all safe. Go back to your bunker. #BlackLivesMatter."

Inslee also responded with a tweet saying, "A man who is totally incapable of governing should stay out of Washington state's business. 'Stoop' tweeting."

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Tweety's trying to keep you scared, it's all he has left to run on.
After a week of trying to "police" the protesters, the decision was made to let them protest and not have police present.
So far it has been trouble free and it won't last long.

President Donald Trump addressed Seattle's protests on Twitter Wednesday evening, calling for Gov. Jay Inslee and Mayor Jenny Durkan to "take back" their city from the "anarchists." If they don't, he threatened, he will.

Durkan tweeted back within the hour: "Make us all safe. Go back to your bunker. #BlackLivesMatter."

Inslee also responded with a tweet saying, "A man who is totally incapable of governing should stay out of Washington state's business. 'Stoop' tweeting."

Much of this predates "Tweety" , 'course if you read the news, this all started second week of November, 2016.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by JohnR

Much of this predates "Tweety" , 'course if you read the news, this all started second week of November, 2016.

Actually I think it started July 4th 1776 but don't worry, now Tweety is on top of it.

I'm still waiting to see all the antifa arrests or maybe his "S.S." is rounding them up and sending them to GITMO.

Our great National Guard Troops who took care of the area around the White House could hardly believe how easy it was. “A walk in the park”, one said. The protesters, agitators, anarchists (ANTIFA), and others, were handled VERY easily by the Guard, D.C. Police, & S.S. GREAT JOB!

[PaulS]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Durkan tweeted back within the hour: "Make us all safe. Go back to your bunker. #BlackLivesMatter."

And take your bunions with you.

[wdmso]

pete makes vaild point if antifa was so prominent. Where are the arrest? BARR even sent in DEA agents William Barr’s DOJ gives DEA authority to conduct “covert surveillance” of protesters: its suggested it was an attempt to smear the pot smoking protesters..

Seems Nixon did something similar
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[Jim in CT]

armed guard at the entrance to the "CHAZ" anarchy zone. What could go wrong?

[spence]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

armed guard at the entrance to the "CHAZ" anarchy zone. What could go wrong?

Considering a white nationalist already drove through a crowd there I'd think a little protection would be in order.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

Considering a white nationalist already drove through a crowd there I'd think a little protection would be in order.

Which is why we have something called the police. But because a statistically insignificant number of them are bad, and because your side will say or do absolutely anything for political advantage, they have been demonized, convincing simple-minded snowflakes that cops only represent a threat that's best to avoid.

The police is probably the only urban institution in the country that works. And now we're going to minimize that. That'll help blacks.

Nine unarmed blacks were killed by police in all of 2019. Nine. 18 blacks were murdered in Chicago on one recent day, May 31. Twice as many as were killed by cops in a year. Sure, by all means, let's start riots over the miniscule threat, and ignore the much more serious threat, because the serious threat pays no political dividends to you, and that's what this is all about, obviously.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

Which is why we have something called the police. But because a statistically insignificant number of them are bad, and because your side will say or do absolutely anything for political advantage, they have been demonized, convincing simple-minded snowflakes that cops only represent a threat that's best to avoid.

The police is probably the only urban institution in the country that works. And now we're going to minimize that. That'll help blacks.

Nine unarmed blacks were killed by police in all of 2019. Nine. 18 blacks were murdered in Chicago on one recent day, May 31. Twice as many as were killed by cops in a year. Sure, by all means, let's start riots over the miniscule threat, and ignore the much more serious threat, because the serious threat pays no political dividends to you, and that's what this is all about, obviously.

Jim your out of touch this comment shows it "miniscule threat" who are you to make that.. are you black do you live that daily with that possibility.. have you lived in that fear

being killed unarmed by the Police is in a different league

Blacks kill black white kill white hispanics kill other hispanics thats how the world works it built into the structures of where we live

being killed by the Police or how police treat the public is Huge ..

the dont tread on me flag isn't just for Trump rallies or 2A protest

it applies to police killing and treatment they represent the Government the authority AKA tyranny

but some here thinks that doesn't apply to police actions

cruel, unreasonable, or arbitrary use of power or control. sound about right ... just because the above actions may be seen as miniscule threat by those with no knee on their neck .. doesn't mean its not a valid sentiment

[JohnR]

Originally Posted by spence

What, John mischaracterizing things to fit his own paranoia? He’s been doing it for a while.
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First time I think I've ever been called paranoid ; )

No Spence, this is part of the the arc of instability I've discussed with some people over the past decade. The polarization, the problems of the extremes (both sides Wayne), the divide along identity, to increasingly end up in violence. The institutional march through American history to excise 150 and 200 years ago by today's standards. I am marginally OK with *some* Conf Statues being relegated to Museums but it won't stop there. The monuments at Gettysburg will be removed. The monuments for Washington and Jefferson will be removed. Everything will be canceled in a mob mentality, with no eye for history or what it means, for social justice,

Like Nuance, but with Nukes.


Now the little kids have their little Lord of the Flies Island, but with weed and firearms*, what could go wrong.

* Not a problem as long as they are following federal and state regs like the rest of us.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Jim your out of touch this comment shows it "miniscule threat" who are you to make that.. are you black do you live that daily with that possibility.. have you lived in that fear

being killed unarmed by the Police is in a different league

Blacks kill black white kill white hispanics kill other hispanics thats how the world works it built into the structures of where we live

being killed by the Police or how police treat the public is Huge ..

the dont tread on me flag isn't just for Trump rallies or 2A protest

it applies to police killing and treatment they represent the Government the authority AKA tyranny

but some here thinks that doesn't apply to police actions

cruel, unreasonable, or arbitrary use of power or control. sound about right ... just because the above actions may be seen as miniscule threat by those with no knee on their neck .. doesn't mean its not a valid sentiment

""miniscule threat" who are you to make that"

Let's go really, really slow here.

I don't make it a miniscule threat. The data says it is.

9 unarmed blacks were killed by the police in the whole country in 2019. Nine.

18 blacks were murdered in Chicago (one city) on May 32 (one day).

Are you going to tell us with a straight face, that urban violence isn't a much bigger threat to blacks, than cops? Based on what?

I go where the facts take me. The facts here, couldn't be more clear.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

armed guard at the entrance to the "CHAZ" anarchy zone. What could go wrong?

So armed protester at State houses good

Armed liberal protester Bad

cant have both ways

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

So armed protester at State houses good (didn't break stuff and went home)

Armed liberal protester Bad (broke a lot of stuff and won't leave)

I'm shocked you don't see the difference

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

So armed protester at State houses good

Armed liberal protester Bad

cant have both ways

As Scott said, conservatives don't generally riot. It's almost always liberals who do that.

Look at what places look like after the tea party has had a rally, or after the armed guards protesting state houses (which I didn't like for the record, but the fat is there were no issues).Compare that to what it looks like after liberals (occupy wall street, antifa, BLM, these potheads in Seattle).

If you owned a restaurant across from a park, who would you rather see protesting in that park? The tea party, antifa, BLM, or Occupy Wall Street?

Have fun with that one.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

As Scott said, conservatives don't generally riot. It's almost always liberals who do that.

Look at what places look like after the tea party has had a rally, or after the armed guards protesting state houses (which I didn't like for the record, but the fat is there were no issues).Compare that to what it looks like after liberals (occupy wall street, antifa, BLM, these potheads in Seattle).

If you owned a restaurant across from a park, who would you rather see protesting in that park? The tea party, antifa, BLM, or Occupy Wall Street?

Have fun with that one.

Like i said liberal with gun excersing his 2a rights bad ...conservative with a gun excersing his 2a right good ..

What could go wrong



Occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge

Who did this liberals

You know why conservatives dont riot. Their to old
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Like i said liberal with gun excersing his 2a rights bad ...conservative with a gun excersing his 2a right good ..

What could go wrong



Occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge

Who did this liberals

You know why conservatives dont riot. Their to old
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amount of trouble when those conservatives showed up
with guns? zero, as usual.

pissed off liberals with guns = dead cops.

there’s the difference.

now, i asked you if you thought that cops were anywhere near as big a threat to blacks, as other blacks in the cities?

how about answering the damn question?
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