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Old 11-07-2019, 12:22 PM   #1
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And then there was Roger, Stone that is

The Eastern Front reopens with the DOJ in the lead.

Prosecutors have revealed new information about how Trump tried to benefit from the Russian operation during the 2016 campaign that hacked the Democratic National Committee’s servers. And they are producing material undercutting Trump’s claim to Mueller that he has no recollection of talking to Stone during the campaign about WikiLeaks. This information also presents a new wrinkle in the Trump-Russia scandal: Trump might have thought in 2016 that his campaign, in effect, was colluding with WikiLeaks. That’s because the campaign was communicating with Stone about WikiLeaks’ plans and intentions and campaign officials (and perhaps Trump) believed Stone was in contact with WikiLeaks.

“The evidence in this case will show that Roger Stone lied to the House Intelligence Committee because the truth looked bad,” lead prosecutor Aaron Zelinsky said in his opening statement on Wednesday. “The truth looked bad for the Trump campaign and the truth looked bad for Donald Trump.”

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Old 11-12-2019, 02:33 PM   #2
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Trump denied in writing and under oath to Mueller of not having any recollection of ever discussing WikiLeaks with Stone or being aware of Stone discussing WikiLeaks with the campaign.

Today Gates testified he was in the car with Trump when Trump talked to Stone about it.

They were discussing STOLEN material from the DNC.

I don't remember is not an absolute defense, sort of like absolute immunity is not a thing.

It is not a valid defense if it can be reasonably proven to be a lie.
For example, say I drink coffee from sun-up to sun-down. A claim that I had "no recollection" of drinking coffee would be perjury.
I can't recall ever having decaf though. Someone proving I did (one time 40 years ago) would not be perjury.

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Old 11-12-2019, 03:04 PM   #3
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Old 11-12-2019, 04:03 PM   #4
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He'd probably claim he never eats cheeseburgers, too

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Donald Trump

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Old 11-12-2019, 04:23 PM   #5
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And you will accuse him of being the reason some people eat them. You will be chasing his tail for 5 more years and you know it.
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Old 11-12-2019, 04:42 PM   #6
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Everybody needs a hobby.

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Old 11-12-2019, 08:42 PM   #7
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Roger Stone rests and calls no witnesses. Closing arguments tomorrow at 1pm.

Will Roger be convicted or flip at the last minute

If convicted will he be pardoned
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Old 11-15-2019, 12:03 PM   #9
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Roger Stone guilty on all counts in federal trial of lying to Congress, witness tampering

Gordon Sondland will think about Roger Stone.

Sondland's first crack at testifying has been contradicted by almost every other witness and emerging fact. He gets another crack in public next Wednesday.

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"I would like you to do us a favor though"
Donald Trump

"Was there a quid pro quo?.....The answer is yes"
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Roger Stone guilty on all counts in federal trial of lying to Congress, witness tampering

Gordon Sondland will think about Roger Stone.

Sondland's first crack at testifying has been contradicted by almost every other witness and emerging fact. He gets another crack in public next Wednesday.

And Taylor's and others were decimated by Morrison's closed door testimony . . . Which is why that testimony remains locked in Schiff's safe so anything in it is sealed and off limits when Morrison testifies in public next week. We might find out who his favorite NFL player is and what brand of coffee he prefers . . . But please, prattle on!



Allowing an illegal border crosser to stay in the US with amnesty and start the legal immigration process
is like allowing a bank robber to go free and keep the money as long as he fills out a loan application.
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Old 11-15-2019, 02:54 PM   #11
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When a con surrounds himself with other cons, eventually it’s time to break out the orange jump suits, I’m loosing count the numbers keep climbing. Who is next, Rudy might be the next target and Trump might not want him to get too close to federal prosecutors.
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Old 11-15-2019, 03:34 PM   #12
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Paul Manafort
Michael Cohen
Rick Gates
Michael Flynn
George Papadopoulos
Roger Stone

Ponder this: How many of YOUR friends and business associates have been convicted?

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And Taylor's and others were decimated by Morrison's closed door testimony . . . Which is why that testimony remains locked in Schiff's safe so anything in it is sealed and off limits when Morrison testifies in public next week. We might find out who his favorite NFL player is and what brand of coffee he prefers . . . But please, prattle on!
You mean the guy Tim Morrison, who testified behind closed doors a day after he announced plans to resign as Trump’s top advisor for Russian and European affairs, was the second official to say he went to authorities after he heard Trump ask Ukraine’s president, Volodymyr Zelensky, for a favor

A former Republican staffer on Capitol Hill and the first White House stffer Morrison largely echoed the testimony of Lt. Col. Alexander S. Vindman,

Or because he thinks the call was not illegal. Is your slam dunk..?

He or any other witnesses job is not to determine crime or no crime was committed...
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