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Old 01-16-2020, 01:02 PM   #31
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I think smoking gun is a bit much. He has problems as a credible witness, and a lot will come down to how much can be verified.

It certainly begs the question; Rudy claims in asking for the meeting with Zelinsky, that the request was with the consent and knowledge of POTUS. Plus there is a tangled web if Nunes was meeting with this guy as claimed. Nunes is trying to deflect and pull back, which is not a good look for him.

So was Trump lying when he said he didn't know what Rudy was doing in Ukraine or was Rudy lying about it then?
i’m am very sad to see how far Rudy has fallen. in the wake of 09/11, we were all in awe of the way he dealt with it all. he’s been reduced to a caricature of what he was.
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i’m am very sad to see how far Rudy has fallen. in the wake of 09/11, we were all in awe of the way he dealt with it all. he’s been reduced to a caricature of what he was.
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Old 01-16-2020, 01:41 PM   #33
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i see that Nancy is so sorry and solemn, that she had commemorative pens made just for the occasion of signing the articles, engraved with her name, handed out to friends. Poor thing is so sad about all this.
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Old 01-16-2020, 02:25 PM   #34
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Pete, when the people you get your news from, are lying or wrong again and again and again, do they lose any credibility with you? You're listening to the same people who said Hilary was going to win in a landslide, that Trump would get indicted for collusion with Russia, that he is a tax cheat, that he engaged in bribery, that the Sandman kid was an evil racist (that's a sixteen year old kid, by the way, if that matters, which it doesn't, because he was wearing a MAGA hat, and that's all that matters).
Read the texts, letters and transcriptions of the voice messages and then say what is credible.
You are listening to Floridaman, who claims to be the greatest and most maligned person to ever exist.
He has been gaslighting since the 70s, just ask John Barron.

IIRC my federal conspiracy law lessons correctly, if someone is aware of at least part of the illegal conspiracy, and takes at least one act to further the conspiracy, they can be charged with the whole conspiracy.

There are a lot of people worried right now inside the Floridaman administration.

So if you just want to believe the party line don't read these documents...........and more will find the light of day

https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/J...211-SD9020.pdf

https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/J...211-SD9015.pdf


https://intelligence.house.gov/uploa...attachment.pdf

https://intelligence.house.gov/uploa...slide_deck.pdf

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i see that Nancy is so sorry and solemn, that she had commemorative pens made just for the occasion of signing the articles, engraved with her name, handed out to friends. Poor thing is so sad about all this.
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Meanwhile, you were bending over Trump’s ass and declaring it smelled like honeysuckle and rainbows.

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Pete, your desperation is showing. Loud and clear.
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He’s bitterly clinging
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Pete, your desperation is showing. Loud and clear. if you actually believes what you claim to believe, you’d just say so.

The fact that you claim everyone who doesn’t hate him as rabidly as you do is a trumplican, shows how irrational and scared to death you are.
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Must be time for a caravan, things are getting hot in Floridaman's world

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The GOP senators are absolutely terrified at the thought of witnesses, forcing them to deny all the facts and show their home constituents they really don’t care about the laws or the constitution.
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Old 01-16-2020, 04:24 PM   #43
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All your deep thoughts, if you are capable of them.
Id put thoughts up against those of any of the snowflakes here, any day of the week. You react like Pavlovian dogs every time someone says anything negative about him.
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the guy at the center of this surveillance of the ambassador, robert hyde, is running for congress in CT as a republican. the state party has been telling him long before this story came out, to drop out. He’s definitely a bit of a bit.

Sad to me that rudy is associated with people like this. he has fallen very. far from
the post 9/11 days when he seemed to be able to do anything.
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i don’t think there are any senators on the fence. they all have their minds made up, just like 99% of the house did. i
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he issue isn’t that i think he’s the messiah. the issue is that you all think he’s the love child of Hitler and Darth Vader.

He beat you, and you snapped. That’s what babies do.
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i have no problem investigating that. Can we also investigate hunter biden’s sweetheart deal?

you’re the kid who shows up with the shiny new ball, loses the game, then takes his ball and goes home, throwing a hissy fit.
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wdmso, i’m not saying the two are connected. i’m saying when there’s evidence of wrongdoing, let’s imvestigate it. i don’t care who is involved or which party.

I know a little about Robert Hyde. He’s crazy. He was removed by police from a trump hotel
last year, he told
the cops that the secret service was bugging him and that people were trying to kill him. he may we’ll be a paranoid schizophrenic. as i said, let’s investigate to see. but can’t we also investigate when there evidence that the Bidens were involved in fishy business?

You only want to investigate trump.
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Pete, when the people you get your news from, are lying or wrong again and again and again, do they lose any credibility with you? You're listening to the same people who said Hilary was going to win in a landslide, that Trump would get indicted for collusion with Russia, that he is a tax cheat, that he engaged in bribery, that the Sandman kid was an evil racist (that's a sixteen year old kid, by the way, if that matters, which it doesn't, because he was wearing a MAGA hat, and that's all that matters).
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i see that Nancy is so sorry and solemn, that she had commemorative pens made just for the occasion of signing the articles, engraved with her name, handed out to friends. Poor thing is so sad about all this.
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Pete, your desperation is showing. Loud and clear.
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Pete, your desperation is showing. Loud and clear. if you actually believes what you claim to believe, you’d just say so.

The fact that you claim everyone who doesn’t hate him as rabidly as you do is a trumplican, shows how irrational and scared to death you are.
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they’re absolutely terrified at the thought of 4 more years.
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Id put thoughts up against those of any of the snowflakes here, any day of the week. You react like Pavlovian dogs every time someone says anything negative about him.
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A little projection from the rabid watchdog?

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He is a vile, dangerous and despicable man, but I react due to his policies on the environment, his mishandling of foreign affairs, his isolationist views on how America should move forward, my reactions wouldn’t be different if someone else was in there governing the same, so no Jim it’s not about hate. Hate and fear is what his party is about, my father would be appalled on seeing what his Republican Party had evolved into.
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He is a vile, dangerous and despicable man, but I react due to his policies on the environment, his mishandling of foreign affairs, his isolationist views on how America should move forward, my reactions wouldn’t be different if someone else was in there governing the same, so no Jim it’s not about hate. Hate and fear is what his party is about, my father would be appalled on seeing what his Republican Party had evolved into.
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If a congressman can wear sneakers to an impeachment. Trump should wear golf shoes to the state of the union
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He has played more golf than any other President.

After saying he wouldn't have time.


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He has played more golf than any other President.

After saying he wouldn't have time.
probably surprised even himself at how effective he can be as President and still find leisure time
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golfing, like the debt, is an issue on which everyone flip flops depending on the party of the sitting president. I assume he can do his job anywhere. the only time i cared when obama did it, if i remember correctly, was golfing on the day that an american citizen was murdered by terrorists, optics weren’t great.
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He is a vile, dangerous and despicable man, but I react due to his policies on the environment, his mishandling of foreign affairs, his isolationist views on how America should move forward, my reactions wouldn’t be different if someone else was in there governing the same, so no Jim it’s not about hate. Hate and fear is what his party is about, my father would be appalled on seeing what his Republican Party had evolved into.
Do you think your father would be proud to see you still polishing Obama’s ball bag?
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Ooooh is that the best insult you have, was it a New Years resolution to be less hostile on this forum.
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Ooooh is that the best insult you have, was it a New Years resolution to be less hostile on this forum.
No, same old exercise more bs.

Can you answer my question now?
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Where have you seen Bob ballwash Obama? Clearly we see you ballwash Trump daily, but GS?
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Could be he just doesn’t wear the pants in the family and he wishes he had a pair, or it’s just a case of little big man syndrome.
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