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Old 02-27-2018, 03:17 PM   #1
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Which is why I like the idea of putting trained, professional soldiers in the schools, not yahoos.
67 of these were Gun fired no one injured, yet they classify this as a school shooting. No Bias on this website.

some were people with no affiliation to the schools.

and a large number were students who brought guns in from home.

don't see where this has much of a bearing on allowing legally licensed employees the right to carry.

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67 of these were Gun fired no one injured, yet they classify this as a school shooting. No Bias on this website.

some were people with no affiliation to the schools.

and a large number were students who brought guns in from home.

don't see where this has much of a bearing on allowing legally licensed employees the right to carry.
"67 of these were Gun fired no one injured, yet they classify this as a school shooting. No Bias on this website.
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There are a lot of zealots on both sides, and they can be shameless in the way they mislead people, can't they?

TDF, sometimes I have absolutely no idea what unites us anymore. None. When a country can't agree on who should pee in the mens room and who can pee in the ladies' room, maybe we are becoming too stupid to survive.
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TDF, sometimes I have absolutely no idea what unites us anymore. None. When a country can't agree on who should pee in the mens room and who can pee in the ladies' room, maybe we are becoming too stupid to survive.
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It surely does not.
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I think 26 would be better since that's the age that they're consider adults now thanks to Obamacare....
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Here is a site, admittedly antigun, but it has a list of school shootings since Newtown. Look at the categories and see how many are Gun fired unintentionally with injury or death resulting.
It might make you think about having more guns in schools
https://everytownresearch.org/school-shootings/
As mentioned previously, the included many things that could hardly be called "school shootings". Problem is, with this loose and biased representation of facts, for a week now we have been hearing "18 shootings" parroted all about the media. This EveryTown advocacy organization is using SEO, hard marketing, and paid placement in order to propagandize AgitProp the debate.

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TDF, sometimes I have absolutely no idea what unites us anymore. None. When a country can't agree on who should pee in the mens room and who can pee in the ladies' room, maybe we are becoming too stupid to survive.
You've said in previous posts you are a simple guy. Maybe it is that issues tend to be more complicated and nuanced than you want them to be. It isn't that we are becoming too stupid to survive, it is that over time, we as a society have a better understanding of the complexities of biology, genetics, gender, psychology, that things aren't as simple as they were made to be. More than half of the country (if you wanna believe polls) oppose laws requiring transgender people to use the bathroom of sex identified at birth. That shows progress in empathy and understanding of a complicated issue.

No, no, no. we’re 30… 30, three zero.
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You've said in previous posts you are a simple guy. Maybe it is that issues tend to be more complicated and nuanced than you want them to be. It isn't that we are becoming too stupid to survive, it is that over time, we as a society have a better understanding of the complexities of biology, genetics, gender, psychology, that things aren't as simple as they were made to be. More than half of the country (if you wanna believe polls) oppose laws requiring transgender people to use the bathroom of sex identified at birth. That shows progress in empathy and understanding of a complicated issue.
Well said Zim. As an aside, Jim, saw my accountant today and my taxes are going UP for 2018. That plus what the tax plan has done to interest rates is costing me dearly on my mortgage refi. Thanks Trump and the GOP.
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Well said Zim. As an aside, Jim, saw my accountant today and my taxes are going UP for 2018. That plus what the tax plan has done to interest rates is costing me dearly on my mortgage refi. Thanks Trump and the GOP.
That is awful for you, but puts you in a small minority.
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Well said Zim. As an aside, Jim, saw my accountant today and my taxes are going UP for 2018. That plus what the tax plan has done to interest rates is costing me dearly on my mortgage refi. Thanks Trump and the GOP.
Get a new accountant and congrats on the raise! Get 15 years and you will make out great.
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Has nothing to do with my accountant, just the new rules don't work with my personal situation as well as the old ones.
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Has nothing to do with my accountant, just the new rules don't work with my personal situation as well as the old ones.

Can't deduct all your mortgage interest, eh?

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Has nothing to do with my accountant, just the new rules don't work with my personal situation as well as the old ones.
It has everything to do with your accountant just ask Trump.
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Well said Zim. As an aside, Jim, saw my accountant today and my taxes are going UP for 2018. That plus what the tax plan has done to interest rates is costing me dearly on my mortgage refi. Thanks Trump and the GOP.
I think there might be a bar in Boston that caters to people who expected their Insurance premiums to go down under Obamacare, but didn't. You should check it out, maybe you can commiserate with them.

I think Tuesday night is 1/2 price well drinks for those who didn't get to keep their doctor.

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I think there might be a bar in Boston that caters to people who expected their Insurance premiums to go down under Obamacare, but didn't. You should check it out, maybe you can commiserate with them.

I think Tuesday night is 1/2 price well drinks for those who didn't get to keep their doctor.
I'm glad to see that the wealthy elites(Spence) are paying their fair share
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Well said Zim. As an aside, Jim, saw my accountant today and my taxes are going UP for 2018. That plus what the tax plan has done to interest rates is costing me dearly on my mortgage refi. Thanks Trump and the GOP.
Because of the cap on state/local taxes? That hurts me too, but the expanded childcare tax credits more than offset that for me, I have 3 kids...

What else would be dinging you? Did you get a raise and you are blaming the tax hike on Trump??
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You've said in previous posts you are a simple guy. Maybe it is that issues tend to be more complicated and nuanced than you want them to be. It isn't that we are becoming too stupid to survive, it is that over time, we as a society have a better understanding of the complexities of biology, genetics, gender, psychology, that things aren't as simple as they were made to be. More than half of the country (if you wanna believe polls) oppose laws requiring transgender people to use the bathroom of sex identified at birth. That shows progress in empathy and understanding of a complicated issue.
Too bad our progress in empathy doesn't extend to Christians who just want to be left alone to practice their faith.

Some things actually are pretty simple.
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You've said in previous posts you are a simple guy. Maybe it is that issues tend to be more complicated and nuanced than you want them to be. It isn't that we are becoming too stupid to survive, it is that over time, we as a society have a better understanding of the complexities of biology, genetics, gender, psychology, that things aren't as simple as they were made to be. More than half of the country (if you wanna believe polls) oppose laws requiring transgender people to use the bathroom of sex identified at birth. That shows progress in empathy and understanding of a complicated issue.
Yet the country takes something simple and makes it complicated. Time and money wasted so a high school girl who is taking hormones to become a boy can wrestle other girls who don't want to wrestle him/her. That's progress we can be proud of.
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