Robert Redford says republicans are racist

[spence]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Not only are any of the "efforts" you list above not fundamentally about race, but can only be made so by a silly notion that they are code for race. That a code is needed to call attention to Obama's race is ridiculous on its face, and on Obama's face. He is obviously black, everyone who was not blind and didn't live in a cave where there was no information about outside activities, including politics, knew he was black (maybe were not quite up to his being half white). Much was, and is, made about him being the first black President. His race was never hidden or obscure, and that a need for some "code" to call attention to it is absurd.

But the convenience of pretending such a code exists, of using the "race card," in order not only to deflect from the actual statements or opinions about Obama relating to his competency for the office of President, is the real "scare tactic." It is a real tactic for which there is no evidence and which is "mainstream in some circles"--as pointed out in this article:http://www.gopusa.com/commentary/201.../?subscriber=1

This is completely missing the point. It's not about other elements being "code" for Obama being black. It's about using his race as "code" for all that other stuff.

-spence

[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

It's about using his race as "code" for all that other stuff.

-spence

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[spence]

Originally Posted by scottw

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I know, it's hard to fathom isn't it.
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by spence

This is completely missing the point. It's not about other elements being "code" for Obama being black. It's about using his race as "code" for all that other stuff.

-spence

And I'm still missing the point:

How is his race code for him being a Muslim? Most Muslims are not of his race. Why would making race a code for being Muslim be necessary. Either he's Muslim, which does not need a code to identify it, or he's not. Race has nothing to do with either.

How is his race code for being Kenyan? A person of his race could be from any country in Africa, or the West Indies, or from Detroit. Are white racists more so against Kenyans than other blacks.

What does race have to do with not being born in the USA? Most people of all races are not born in the USA. It is well known by the vast majority of Americans, if not, by some quirk, by all, that millions of blacks are born in the USA. Either you're born here or you're not-- No code is needed. A birth certificate is all that's needed.

Why is a "code" needed to point out that "he's not like us" if you're a white racist. Ditto for "he doesn't share our values". What's the point of a code for the obvious. On the other hand, sharing of values is not dependent on race. Many, many whites don't share common values. In the political arena not sharing values has to do with policy not race.

The "etc." might contain a code. Please spell it out.

Race being a "code" for all that stuff is as silly as all that stuff being a "code" for race.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by detbuch

And I'm still missing the point:

How is his race code for him being a Muslim? Most Muslims are not of his race. Why would making race a code for being Muslim be necessary. Either he's Muslim, which does not need a code to identify it, or he's not. Race has nothing to do with either.

How is his race code for being Kenyan? A person of his race could be from any country in Africa, or the West Indies, or from Detroit. Are white racists more so against Kenyans than other blacks.

What does race have to do with not being born in the USA? Most people of all races are not born in the USA. It is well known by the vast majority of Americans, if not, by some quirk, by all, that millions of blacks are born in the USA. Either you're born here or you're not-- No code is needed. A birth certificate is all that's needed.

Why is a "code" needed to point out that "he's not like us" if you're a white racist. Ditto for "he doesn't share our values". What's the point of a code for the obvious. On the other hand, sharing of values is not dependent on race. Many, many whites don't share common values. In the political arena not sharing values has to do with policy not race.

The "etc." might contain a code. Please spell it out.

Race being a "code" for all that stuff is as silly as all that stuff being a "code" for race.

all of this abstract nonsense and he still can't come up with 1 concrete name