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Old 11-14-2021, 09:47 AM   #151
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Old 11-14-2021, 12:03 PM   #152
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There seems to be a large portion of America that are more afraid of their kids holding a book in their hands than a gun.

The funny thing is, as soon as you tell a child they can’t read a book, they’ll want to read that book. And kids have ways of finding books like that.
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Can you two virtue Hunters define

defining pornography or obscene content

Still waiting just more of the same conservative Hair on Fire responses

Jim still waiting on the name book your 8th grader read , and where or who gave it to him... his catholic school?

Welcome to Fascism

Some of the ugliest aspects of fascism—intolerance, repression, and violence—were fueled by what fascists saw as a morally justified struggle against “decadence.” For fascists, decadence meant a number of things: materialism, self-indulgence, hedonism, cowardice, and physical and moral softness. It was also associated with rationalism, skepticism, atheism, humanitarianism,


This is an organized attempt to attack intellectuals another pillar in the fascist playbook and you thinks it's actually about ... Parents rights just like it was about voter integrity... your being played
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wayne, what do you mean no evidence? parents are reading from these books at school board meetings. you’re saying they’re making it up? the school boards aren’t denying these books are in the schools.

yes their lying PS Parents claim they have the right to shape their kids’ school curriculum. They don’t.

you were the one ok with banning to kill a mockingbird. but it’s not rational to ban valueless smut? Now your making stuff up
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its that easy ... but you think you should decide were or who your tax money goes . not the city or town or the Government

more twisted logic
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Can you two virtue Hunters define

defining pornography or obscene content

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Welcome to Fascism

Some of the ugliest aspects of fascism—intolerance, repression, and violence—were fueled by what fascists saw as a morally justified struggle against “decadence.” For fascists, decadence meant a number of things: materialism, self-indulgence, hedonism, cowardice, and physical and moral softness. It was also associated with rationalism, skepticism, atheism, humanitarianism,


This is an organized attempt to attack intellectuals another pillar in the fascist playbook and you thinks it's actually about ... Parents rights just like it was about voter integrity... your being played
This is hilarious
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... but you think you should decide were or who your tax money goes . not the city or town or the Government

more twisted logic

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Are you sure you are an American?
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if parents want to establish what their kids learn homeschool them
its that easy ... but you think you should decide were or who your tax money goes . not the city or town or the Government

more twisted logic
what lies can you show that they are telling?

just because a statement makes your side look stupid, doesn’t mean it’s a lie. i’m sorry, that’s not how it works.

they don’t have the right? who pays for that school, einstein? by what logic does the paying customer ( who pays thousands and thousands of dollars every single year) not have. say in how their money is spent?


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Can you two virtue Hunters define

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Welcome to Fascism

Some of the ugliest aspects of fascism—intolerance, repression, and violence—were fueled by what fascists saw as a morally justified struggle against “decadence.” For fascists, decadence meant a number of things: materialism, self-indulgence, hedonism, cowardice, and physical and moral softness. It was also associated with rationalism, skepticism, atheism, humanitarianism,


This is an organized attempt to attack intellectuals another pillar in the fascist playbook and you thinks it's actually about ... Parents rights just like it was about voter integrity... your being played
i didn’t see that you asked for the. some of the book.

there were two that year that talked a lot about vaginas and sexuality. one was called “I am not your perfect t mexican daughter.”

the other was “Gender Queer: A Memoir.”

have fun.

wayne, there’s video of parents reading from the pages of these books at boe meetings. the BOE members aren't accusing them
of lying about these books. so i’m not sure why you are sure they’re lying. what evidence do you have that they’re all lying?
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wayne accuses the right of fascism but he is the one saying “give me huge piles of your hard earned tax dollars, and you have no right to a say in how it’s spent.”

wayne, THATS fascism.

wayne wants him feds of
my dollars every month, and claims i have no say in how it’s spent. And when i offer my say, he says that’s fascist

You can’t make that up.
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wayne accuses the right of racism. but he is the one saying “give me huge piles of your hard earned tax dollars, and you have no right to a say in how it’s spent.”

wayne, THATS fascism.

wayne wants him feds of
my dollars every month, and claims i have no say in how it’s spent. And when i offer my say, he says that’s fascist

You can’t make that up.
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And the people having a say in what government teaches their children is Democracy. Wayne has it all topsy-turvy. He is a clear example of Orwellian newspeak--Fascism is Democracy and Democracy is fascism.

Or maybe what the left refers to as "our democracy" is something different than what democracy used to mean. I think so.
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As far as I know every public school in this country is under the control of elected officials.
Any citizen can run.
Intimidating elected officials looks like the new method of controlling political outcomes.
Trump’s lasting legacy will be what we now see daily. If you’re not on my team then I’m gonna kill you. It’s why exploiting divisions is the worst sin a leader can commit.
The New York Post reported that freshman Rep. Nicole Malliotakis (R-NY) appeared to be “visibly shaken” as Trump attacked her and her 12 GOP colleagues during his speech at the National Republican Congressional Committee dinner.
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Jim and Scott and the rest of the GOP and its supporters all seem to have stayed at a Holiday inn express

they want Parents to drive education and suddenly they are the subject experts ... even if The authority to determine the curriculum rests with the district, not individual teachers. But parents know better.


they think they know more than medical professionals and demand Ivermectin and against Masks

they think the POTUS and the government control the price of Gas and can control the prices of food in a capitalistic system

they think Trump won the election reguardless of what elected officials said in both republicans and democrats .. it was not True


The Current GOP and it followers have decided They are the only arbiter's of truth.. and subject matter experts

what's next Plumbers writing electrical Code

Anti-intellectual Americans AKA GOPQ

were more likely to prefer anti-expert politicians like Trump
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i didn’t see that you asked for the. some of the book.

there were two that year that talked a lot about vaginas and sexuality. one was called “I am not your perfect t mexican daughter.”

the other was “Gender Queer: A Memoir.”

have fun.

wayne, there’s video of parents reading from the pages of these books at boe meetings. the liars members are t accusing them
of lying about these books. so i’m not sure why you are sure they’re lying. what evidence do you have that they’re all lying?
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and where did he get these books ???

not your perfect mexican

The Lord’s name is used in vain frequently. Words including the f-word, a–, s—, balls, p—, crap, d–n, b–ch, sucks, h—, whore, screw and douche appear regularly. oh the horror


Julia mentions her large boobs often and talks about how men stare at them.
Julia also stops for condoms
julia goes with her to get a pregnancy test Lorena’s friend Juanga is a gay teen
Julia notes that the kids are dancing so close they are practically dry humping. She says that someone’s going to be pregnant by the end of the dance.
She compares a bald guy at a party to a scrotum

oh the horror a book describing what kids at that age talk about and experience


Jim and you still can not provide one example where these books are part of and school curriculum ... Am I am not surprised
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As far as I know every public school in this country is under the control of elected officials.
Any citizen can run.

Any citizen can object and petition the elected officials for changes in policies. Are you suggesting that once officials are elected they have unmitigated power to do as they please without complaint or redress from the citizens? You do seem to like all powerful forms of governing.

Intimidating elected officials looks like the new method of controlling political outcomes.

It is the citizens right and duty in a democracy--but apparently not in your version of "our democracy"--it is their right and duty to protest what they see as malfeasance. Isn't that what all the riots and demonstrations that you approve of are about? But it's not necessary to riot. Protests can be voiced in board meetings and town halls and letters and phone calls and petitions among various peaceful ways to communicate their objections. It is very democratic to "intimidate" elected officials with complaints that can lead to being voted out of office if they don't comply.


Trump’s lasting legacy will be what we now see daily. If you’re not on my team then I’m gonna kill you. It’s why exploiting divisions is the worst sin a leader can commit.
The New York Post reported that freshman Rep. Nicole Malliotakis (R-NY) appeared to be “visibly shaken” as Trump attacked her and her 12 GOP colleagues during his speech at the National Republican Congressional Committee dinner.
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Didn't take long to make it about Trump again. Trump . . . Trump . . . TrumpTrumpTrump . . . TDS
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and where did he get these books ???

not your perfect mexican

The Lord’s name is used in vain frequently. Words including the f-word, a–, s—, balls, p—, crap, d–n, b–ch, sucks, h—, whore, screw and douche appear regularly. oh the horror


Julia mentions her large boobs often and talks about how men stare at them.
Julia also stops for condoms
julia goes with her to get a pregnancy test Lorena’s friend Juanga is a gay teen
Julia notes that the kids are dancing so close they are practically dry humping. She says that someone’s going to be pregnant by the end of the dance.
She compares a bald guy at a party to a scrotum

oh the horror a book describing what kids at that age talk about and experience


Jim and you still can not provide one example where these books are part of and school curriculum ... Am I am not surprised
he got the books at school, to read for english class. did you ever go to school?

there was much more graphic language than what you posted. sorry, that’s a fact.

how would i prove that, wayne? want me to get a letter from his english teacher?

the boards of ed aren’t denying that these books are part of the courses. if your brain can’t process that, that’s in you.
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Jim and Scott and the rest of the GOP and its supporters all seem to have stayed at a Holiday inn express
ok? wtf??
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it's not new.....this is stupid....what you characterize as intimidation for one side you refer to as "how democracy works for the other"....pathetic
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Trump’s lasting legacy will be what we now see daily. If you’re not on my team then I’m gonna kill you.

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when pete leaves the overly dramatic lane and swerves into full stupid ahead
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Jim and Scott and the rest of the GOP and its supporters all seem to have stayed at a Holiday inn express

they want Parents to drive education and suddenly they are the subject experts ... even if The authority to determine the curriculum rests with the district, not individual teachers. But parents know better.


they think they know more than medical professionals and demand Ivermectin and against Masks

they think the POTUS and the government control the price of Gas and can control the prices of food in a capitalistic system

they think Trump won the election reguardless of what elected officials said in both republicans and democrats .. it was not True


The Current GOP and it followers have decided They are the only arbiter's of truth.. and subject matter experts

what's next Plumbers writing electrical Code

Anti-intellectual Americans AKA GOPQ

were more likely to prefer anti-expert politicians like Trump
"Jim and Scott and the rest of the GOP and its supporters all seem to have stayed at a Holiday inn express "

What in Gods name does this mean?

"they want Parents to drive have a say in education"

fixed it for you.

"they are the subject experts"

I don't concede that it requires much "expertise" to know that there's better uses for school resources than having my kid read about going down on a girl, and being taught that his skin color is a character flaw.

Wayne, maybe if someone advocated more on your educational behalf, you wouldn't think that "I bet you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express" is some kind of insult. Maybe youd see the irony when you claim Republicans are fascists, but you want huge piles of money from us and claim we have no say in how it's spent.

"The authority to determine the curriculum rests with the district, not individual teachers"

Which is why parents are going to BOE meetings.

"they think the POTUS and the government control influence the price of Gas "

fixed it for you.
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WDMSO -

"they want Parents to drive education and suddenly they are the subject experts"

In that post, you were adamant that parents don't know enough about education to chime in.

Have you ever bothered to see how homeschooled kids do, compared to kids who go to public school? They do pretty well. Pretty darn well. If parents don't have a clue about education, why aren't home-schooled kids lagging behind?
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maybe he should explain to the defund the police movement that they have no say in how the city, politicians and/or government spend their tax dollars
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now that you mention it! i’m sure all those people advocating for police reform are subject matter experts in that field? AOC, I’m sure, has a graduate degree in criminal
justice from John Jay College.

As always, it’s ok when they do it. only a problem when we do it.
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Defund the police are not much different from the porn and CRT in schools people...

Both an uninformed minority with Big Mouths .... who think they are representing Mainstream Americans
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Defund the police are not much different from the porn and CRT in schools people...

Both an uninformed minority with Big Mouths .... who think they are representing Mainstream Americans
you’re right, the opposition to CRT is limited to a small number of people in the fringe. Just ask Governor McAuliffe.

oh another difference, those opposed to CRT are expressing themselves exactly as you’d hope - speaking up at BOE meetings. they aren’t rioting, burning down buildings, looting stores.
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you’re right, the opposition to CRT is limited to a small number of people in the fringe. Just ask Governor McAuliffe.

oh another difference, those opposed to CRT are expressing themselves exactly as you’d hope - speaking up at BOE meetings. they aren’t rioting, burning down buildings, looting stores.
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are you going to tell us what this means?
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i’m very curious.
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are you going to tell us what this means?
Jim
i’m very curious.

I was wrong , seem neither of you stayed at a holiday inn express ..LOL
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Parents' Bill of Rights is needed to combat Left's indoctrination of students," Hawley, R-Mo.

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i’m very curious.

I was wrong , seem neither of you stayed at a holiday inn express ..LOL
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i have stayed in a holiday inn express. i just can’t imagine where you were going with that.
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