Trump is a xenophobe?

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Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

Getting ready to move my daughter down to Baltimore on Friday, went down there in June to help her do some apartment hunting. There are some nice areas and there are some where you would need an armed escort to drive through. Inner harbor is georgeous.

Sounds like Baltimore is good enough for the House Republicans yearly policy retreat this fall. As someone who knows something about rats I can say this doesn't look good.

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

orkin says that baltimore is one of the most rat infested cities in the nation. is orkin racist? should
they have said
that beverly hills
is themost rat infested?

again, you did what GS did. You saw trump say something obnoxious to a black critic, and you assumed racism. liberals do that a lot.

https://patch.com/maryland/baltimore...ties-u-s-orkin
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Now your using the Orkin man for the reason trump used those words... I cant stop laughing
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Now your using the Orkin man for the reason trump used those words... I cant stop laughing
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Looks like you can't stop misinterpreting either...

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Now your using the Orkin man for the reason trump used those words... I cant stop laughing
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trump said the city is rat infested. was trump wrong? or are you saying that when a white man says factually correct but insulting things to a black man, it’s necessarily racist?

and i’ll ask again, why wasn’t bernie called a racist when he said parts of baltimore look like a third world nation? why isn’t that offensive?
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Originally Posted by Jim in CT

trump said the city is rat infested. was trump wrong? or are you saying that when a white man says factually correct but insulting things to a black man, it’s necessarily racist?

and i’ll ask again, why wasn’t bernie called a racist when he said parts of baltimore look like a third world nation? why isn’t that offensive?
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Really Jim?

[Sea Dangles]

Context Jeff?
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Originally Posted by Sea Dangles

Context Jeff?
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There's a lot more than context lacking.

[Sea Dangles]

Without the first paragraph it is actually a very fair question. It should be simple enough for even you to grasp I would guess. But perhaps I overestimate you given the way you tried to dodge.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by spence

There's a lot more than context lacking.

how about you tell us what i got wrong exactly, instead of lobbing vague insults again?
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

trump said the city is rat infested. was trump wrong? or are you saying that when a white man says factually correct but insulting things to a black man, it’s necessarily racist?

and i’ll ask again, why wasn’t bernie called a racist when he said parts of baltimore look like a third world nation? why isn’t that offensive?
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This is the problem. You some how are convinced he was actually referring to the rat poupulation ..

And why. Are you repeating Trumps deflection..

Ps whats Sanders history with race... compared with Trump ...that might have something to do with the degree of blow back Trump's getting

Unless you in the group that hes just a white guy legitimately criticizing a black guy..
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by wdmso

This is the problem. You some how are convinced he was actually referring to the rat poupulation ..

And why. Are you repeating Trumps deflection..

Ps whats Sanders history with race... compared with Trump ...that might have something to do with the degree of blow back Trump's getting

Unless you in the group that hes just a white guy legitimately criticizing a black guy..
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[Sea Dangles]

It’s hard to believe that just 4 years ago that peaceful city was rioting.
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[The Dad Fisherman]

"What the hell? We should just take all this chit down.” - Former Baltimore Mayor (D) Cindy Pugh

"Whoa, you can smell the rats." - Former Baltimore Mayor Cindy Pugh (D)

“Baltimore is a Fu ck ing ghetto...it is chit” - Maryland Senate President Mike Miller (D-Md.)

“Anyone who took the walk that we took around this neighborhood would not think you’re in a wealthy nation. You would think that you were in a Third World country.” - Senator Bernie Sanders (D-Vt)

[Pete F.]

Keep thinking that it will be OK, that this too shall pass. Trump's effect on this country is horrific.

This is because instead of governing all the people, he acts as if he is the President of only those who agree with him and all dissenters are called names, denigrated and perhaps they should leave. He is the Great Divider Incarnate and celebrates it. Sad

The president, along with the vice president, are the only two public officials elected by the entire country. The president bears a unique responsibility to represent the unity of the country. Trump does not accept that responsibility. He treats his political opponents as illegitimate and even disloyal. He declared at the North Carolina rally, “A vote for any Democrat in 2020 is a vote for the rise of radical socialism and the destruction of the American dream — frankly, the destruction of our country.”

Almost all the members thought to be checks on Trumps behavior in his early Cabinet are gone now and replaced by allies, many of whom have not been confirmed by Congress as required by the Constitution.

This has all happened before in history and people believed then that nothing bad would happen, just welcome economic prosperity and the removal of constraints on the success of their nation.

Ex-Chancellor Franz Von Papen believed that conservative elites could control Hitler. Instead, by 1934 Von Papen’s political career was over, as Hitler, in a whirlwind series of personnel changes, set his propaganda machine – that same machine that denounced the media as the lugenpresse, the “lying press” – to work against his erstwhile allies and, despite not having won a majority of the votes in the previous election, purged his government of the moderating voices of non-Nazis.

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by wdmso

This is the problem. You some how are convinced he was actually referring to the rat poupulation ..

And why. Are you repeating Trumps deflection..

Ps whats Sanders history with race... compared with Trump ...that might have something to do with the degree of blow back Trump's getting

Unless you in the group that hes just a white guy legitimately criticizing a black guy..
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so let’s be very clear here...because this issue is a whole lot bigger than our disagreement, it gets to the heart of where we are today.

trump says “baltimore is rat infested.”.

when he says that, what i hear, is what he actually said, that “baltimore is rat infested.”

what YOU hear, despite what he actually said, is “Baltimore is n*gger infested.”.

I am responding to what he actually said, you are responding to something not even close to what he said. and you say I am the one
with the problem?

whew.

So when do we hold people
accountable for what they actually said, and when can we pretend that they said something completely different from what was actually said? who makes that decision, what are the ground
rules?
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

"What the hell? We should just take all this chit down.” - Former Baltimore Mayor (D) Cindy Pugh

"Whoa, you can smell the rats." - Former Baltimore Mayor Cindy Pugh (D)

“Baltimore is a Fu ck ing ghetto...it is chit” - Maryland Senate President Mike Miller (D-Md.)

“Anyone who took the walk that we took around this neighborhood would not think you’re in a wealthy nation. You would think that you were in a Third World country.” - Senator Bernie Sanders (D-Vt)

but it’s only racist when orange man says it.

i should invest in tin foil
hats.
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[Jim in CT]

wdmso, the left has
no interest in admitting that democrats have (1) run baltimore for 50
years, and (2) that they've done a terrible job. trump pointed out their failure, and god knows they can’t admit he’s right, so they play their go-to card, racism.
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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

The president, along with the vice president, are the only two public officials elected by the entire country.

You might want to tell these folks that.

[Pete F.]

Just what part of this are Liberal Democrats responsible for?

It's always the fault of the Liberals with you

During World War II, the steel industry underwent a production boom. Bethlehem’s mill at Sparrow Point, which built cargo and transport ships, expanded quickly to meet supply needs. The mill reached its peak employment in 1959, with 35,000 workers. Second- or third-generation steelworkers earning union wages could achieve financial independence with middle-class living standards, save for the future, and afford higher education for their children to prepare them for employment beyond the steel mill.

In short, union representation helped to transform an industry with a self-replicating workforce of unskilled workers into a means for economic and social advancement.

The latter part of the 20th Century saw a nationwide decline in the manufacturing sector, and Bethlehem Steel was no exception to this trend. In 1971, when Sparrows Point was the largest steel mill in the country, a surge in steel imports led to massive layoffs among domestic producers. Three thousand workers at Sparrow Point lost their jobs that year, followed by another 7,000 in 1975.

By the late 1980s, the workforce had dwindled to 8,000, accompanied by a decline in wages and benefits as the union conceded on many pay and benefits issues. Baltimore workers could no longer look to steel as a source of middle-class wages and job security.

The story of Bethlehem’s steel mill at Sparrows Point is a microcosm of economic changes that profoundly affected Baltimore and other “rust belt” cities across the US during this period. The manufacturing industries, having long been the economic base for employment and output for nearly a century, dwindled and disappeared.

Baltimore lost over 100,000 manufacturing jobs between 1950 and 1995, 75% of its industrial employment — not to mention most of the jobs with union representation. Currently, only 6% of all jobs in the City are in manufacturing. The collapse of industry led to a number of changes in the demographic makeup of the City and the surrounding region, contributing to a crisis in urban poverty that lingers today.

American Industry failed to change in the 60s when the rest of the world rebuilt their Industry after WW2 and suffered the loss of manufacturing jobs, this destroyed city after city including Baltimore and in Connecticut and Massachusetts, Machine tool, wire mills and others that failed to modernize their production methods and facilities.

[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

You might want to tell these folks that.

Why post a picture of your children?

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Why post a picture of your children?

My kids are actually clean cut, productive members of society. These must be your relations, I can smell the in-breeding from here

[Jim in CT]

obviously it’s not the fault of liberalism that so many manufacturing jobs were lost.

But liberalism makes those inner cities worse. Because liberalism (1) doesn’t come
close to adequately stressing the downside of single parent households. liberals thing that the concept of the nuclear family is an anachronism, and that if something feels good, you should just do it and not worry about consequences.

(2) liberalism also crippled those poor people
in inner cities by making them
addicted to welfare, robbing them if the initiative to take care of themselves.

A great liberal, Daniel Patrick Moynihan, predicted this long ago. he predicted that liberalism would
destroy the black. nuclearr family, and that would
be a holocaust for blacks. he was right.

i don’t know how, with decades of
empirical evidence, that liberals don’t see the damage they are doing. my guess is that it’s intentional, because if you create this permanent underclass, liberals
make them dependent on welfare, and therefore dependable reliable democrat voters.

that also explains why liberals oppose school choice.

i may well be wrong, but i can’t see a more logical explanation. liberal approach to poverty is to give poor people just enough to stay alive, but not nearly what they need to climb out of poverty. i’m not sure liberals want them
to climb out of poverty, because if they do, many will no longer vote democrat.
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[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Why post a picture of your children?

he makes a valid point, and you smear his kids?

there’s liberalism for you. liberalism in a nutshell, not even his kids are spared when a liberal is losing an argument.

F*ck you, you sniveling snowflake coward. TDF is one of the most rational middle ground people
here, and you insult his kids. one of whom is an eagle scout, yeah there’s all kinds of dysfunctionality there i’m sure.

F*ck you and the stupid, deranged, hate filled, intolerant liberal horse you rode in on.

TDF kick me off the board if you need to, i could care less.
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[Pete F.]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

he makes a valid point, and you smear his kids?

there’s liberalism for you. liberalism in a nutshell, not even his kids are spared when a liberal is losing an argument.

F*ck you, you sniveling snowflake coward. TDF is one of the most rational middle ground people
here, and you insult his kids. one of whom is an eagle scout, yeah there’s all kinds of dysfunctionality there i’m sure.

F*ck you and the stupid, deranged, hate filled, intolerant liberal horse you rode in on.

TDF kick me off the board if you need to, i could care less.
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You could have just shown me your badge!

Poor boy, you ought to realize all people have parents who love them, Jesus does also.

Even the ones who don't conform.

It's perfectly acceptable to you to insult some people because you don't like their appearance, (though I'm sure you would deflect and say he didn't really mean that) but suggest that yours might not conform and it is horrifying and a sure indicator that someone is one of the most evil things in your world.

Liberal

Would you shoot your children or yourself if those were yours?

Or just do this?

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Pete F.

Poor boy, you ought to realize all people have parents who love them, Jesus does also.
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Explain Child Abuse and Neglect then? No, not all parents love their kids, some shouldn't even be allowed to be parents.

[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

he makes a valid point, and you smear his kids?

there’s liberalism for you. liberalism in a nutshell, not even his kids are spared when a liberal is losing an argument.

F*ck you, you sniveling snowflake coward. TDF is one of the most rational middle ground people
here, and you insult his kids. one of whom is an eagle scout, yeah there’s all kinds of dysfunctionality there i’m sure.

F*ck you and the stupid, deranged, hate filled, intolerant liberal horse you rode in on.

TDF kick me off the board if you need to, i could care less.
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No blood, no foul.

Just another manifestation of TDS.

Didn't he post something about becoming that which you hate

[Jim in CT]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

No blood, no foul.

Just another manifestation of TDS.

if trump gets re elected, it’s gonna be so sweet on this board. can one fatally overdose on schadenfreude?

big time symptoms of TDS...


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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

so let’s be very clear here...because this issue is a whole lot bigger than our disagreement, it gets to the heart of where we are today.

trump says “baltimore is rat infested.”.

when he says that, what i hear, is what he actually said, that “baltimore is rat infested.”

what YOU hear, despite what he actually said, is “Baltimore is n*gger infested.”.

I am responding to what he actually said, you are responding to something not even close to what he said. and you say I am the one
with the problem?

whew.

So when do we hold people
accountable for what they actually said, and when can we pretend that they said something completely different from what was actually said? who makes that decision, what are the ground
rules?
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You just respond to what he actual said... how sad thats the depth of your objectivity. When it comes to Trump

To bad Trumps administration since day 1 is constantly telling us what he ment to say and to ignore what he said ..

But now its focus on what he said not what he ment .. can you make up your mind. Your abilities to only hear the word Rat clearly places you as one of the faithful.. trust me i hear more then just the n word .. look who he wants to label as a terrorist group...your fav antifa.. another bone for the base
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[wdmso]

Originally Posted by Jim in CT

if trump gets re elected, it’s gonna be so sweet on this board. can one fatally overdose on schadenfreude?

big time symptoms of TDS...


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And if he doesn't??
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[Pete F.]

There is a Trumplican running to replace Ilhan Omar and am I impressed......