The BS Pipeline

[spence]

Originally Posted by JohnR

No, but hundreds, at night, probably a similar amount more or less from hard right looking to stir crap up.

And yet there were no problems and no arrests. Perhaps the terrorists were just having a nice late night game of bocci.

[detbuch]

Another needle in a haystack:

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Another needle in a haystack:

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Another needle in a haystack:

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Another needle in a haystack:

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by detbuch

Another needle in a haystack:

Now your needles have change tune to what no one has ever disputed there is a difference between a protester and a looter and rioter


but please keep up the suggestion supporting the protester equals not supporting the police or the acting as if Defunding the police is really going to happen , its like suggesting Trump one day will act like an adult it aint going to happen

[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Now your needles have change tune to what no one has ever disputed there is a difference between a protester and a looter and rioter

The "needles" didn't change their tune. They consistently questioned or decried the rioting and looting. Most rhetorically asked what the violence was accomplishing. And they all recognized that not only were the protests merely "peaceful," but they included significant and very destructive, violent, behavior. And each one of what you refer to as a needle in a haystack, was actually not that rare. There are many who feel the way they do. And they are not difficult to find. Not to mention the obious others, some of whom you mentioned as needles in a haystack--Candace Owens, Larry Elder, Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams and lots more, some of whom have or have had videos that called out not only the violence that usually accompany these "peaceful" protests, But who even question the purpose and usefulness of orgs. like BLM.

The last video I posted, the interview with Bob Woodson, lays it all out very well, wisely, rationally, with history, evidence and statistics, and points out some of the stupid, corrupt, non-productive things and lies that keep a large segment of black society trapped into the stagnant bottom of society which prevents them from improving, but instead remaining the victims of other blacks and ignorant, well meaning whites.

If you're serious about solutions, watch the Woodson interview from the beginning to the very end. Or remain ignorant and think they are only needles in a haystack.

but please keep up the suggestion supporting the protester equals not supporting the police or the acting as if Defunding the police is really going to happen , its like suggesting Trump one day will act like an adult it aint going to happen

I have no idea of WTF you're talking about. I didn't say that supporting the protester equals not supporting the police. I didn't mention defunding the police.

Nor did I say that Trump doesn't act like an adult. A child or adolescent could not accomplish the things that Trump has. I'm just guessing, but I don't think you could either.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by wdmso

but please keep acting as if Defunding the police is really going to happen ,it aint going to happen

NEWSWEEK
U.S.

LA Mayor Faces Backlash For Defunding Police With $150 Million Budget Cut

BY DANIEL VILLARREAL ON 6/5/20 AT 9:55 PM EDT

[wdmso]

Originally Posted by scottw

NEWSWEEK
U.S.

LA Mayor Faces Backlash For Defunding Police With $150 Million Budget Cut

BY DANIEL VILLARREAL ON 6/5/20 AT 9:55 PM EDT

omg a budget cut now equals defunding ... the militarization of the police is the biggest issue and if you think they haven't been you haven't been paying attention..

Look at the crowds in the Streets across the country people are Tired of police who can shoot an un armed person and get away with it keep their jobs get promoted by just uttering I was in fear for my life I thought they had a weapon ..

Ive said this before we had more restraint in Iraq and rules of engagement where if my men or wanted to kill an Iraqi.. i thought he had a wepon wasnt going to fly...

Police officers job is inherently dangerous they have about the same chance being killed in their patrol car as the do being shot

30 years working in a prison seen use of force change with every new head of corrections and Governor, have been dealing with video for 15 years ..

The police had a chance to be involved with body cameras some embraced them others did not same with a tazer some use them as an additional tool others a short cut justifed in a report. But now people are watching. Demanding those who enforce the law shouldn't be above it or given special status to dispense it as the wish ... and if you feel equally upset over the death of floyd at the hands of law enforcement and the riots .. thats the problem because the 2 are not the same in .just
my opinion
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[detbuch]

Another needle in a haystack:

[The Dad Fisherman]

That should work out well
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[spence]

They’re just proposing restructuring, not eliminating all law enforcement.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

They’re just proposing restructuring, not eliminating all law enforcement.

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sounds like a simple restructure to me...


Sun 7 Jun 2020

The Minneapolis city council has pledged to disband the city’s police department and replace it with a new system of public safety, a historic move that comes as calls to defund law enforcement are sweeping the US.

Speaking at a community rally on Sunday, a veto-proof majority of council members declared their intent to “dismantle” and “abolish” the embattled police agency

[Ian]

Originally Posted by scottw

sounds like a simple restructure to me...


Sun 7 Jun 2020

The Minneapolis city council has pledged to disband the city’s police department and replace it with a new system of public safety, a historic move that comes as calls to defund law enforcement are sweeping the US.

Speaking at a community rally on Sunday, a veto-proof majority of council members declared their intent to “dismantle” and “abolish” the embattled police agency

I gotta admit, leaders and representatives across the country are failing their constituencies by knee jerk reacting to this with sweeping policy change and multi-million $ funding changes.

It’s a good idea to consider the vital role of law enforcement in our society. It’s a terrible idea to lose the forest for the trees and think that “one way to do this” is to defund police and turn that into a movement.
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by spence

They’re just proposing restructuring, not eliminating all law enforcement.


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[The Dad Fisherman]

Originally Posted by scottw

You're taking the words "Abolish" and "Disband" out of context.
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[spence]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

You're taking the words "Abolish" and "Disband" out of context.
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No, they're just saying abolish the bad practices. It's a cardboard sign, not a policy proposal.

[scottw]

Originally Posted by The Dad Fisherman

You're taking the words "Abolish" and "Disband" out of context.
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he's trying his best to make no sense

[Pete F.]

Defunding doesn’t mean ending police, it means limiting law enforcement functions. Most cops agree they shouldn’t be 1st responders for mental health crisis or school discipline, roles they’ve been brought into. This is an opportunity to transform.

[wdmso]

Defund and the green new deal get the same overblown responses . Not surprising.. fear of change runs deep in that party
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[detbuch]

Originally Posted by wdmso

Defund and the green new deal get the same overblown responses . Not surprising.. fear of change runs deep in that party
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What's so overblown about disagreeing? You disagree a lot.

[The Dad Fisherman]

I didn’t know we had to be outraged “on a curve”
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[Got Stripers]

Well if you watch Fox and caught the interview with Eric Trump, you believers must be ready to shout the Trump favorite word, the virus is a Democrat HOAX. It will apparently all magically disappear after the November election. This is either the rotten crazy conspiracy loving bad apple falling not far from the family tree or Trump desperate and irresponsible campaign move to get his base out to vote. Either proves you just can’t cure stupid.

[Sea Dangles]

It has already disappeared in NZ.
No Dems down there I guess.

[scottw]

league leaders in deaths / million population U.S.

1591 New York
1439 New Jersey
1179 Connecticut
1109 Massachusetts
803 Rhode Island
730 DC
602 Michigan
650 Louisiana
499 Illinois
494 Pennsylvania

[Ian]

Originally Posted by scottw

league leaders in deaths / million population U.S.

1591 New York
1439 New Jersey
1179 Connecticut
1109 Massachusetts
803 Rhode Island
730 DC
602 Michigan
650 Louisiana
499 Illinois
494 Pennsylvania

It’s clear to me from these numbers, this virus was clearly created in a lab by the GOP to reduce the voting population in these states so they become battleground states.

:boom:
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[scottw]

Originally Posted by Ian

It’s clear to me from these numbers, this virus was clearly created in a lab by the GOP to reduce the voting population in these states so they become battleground states.

:boom:
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no, they aren't that smart or calculating

[scottw]

Originally Posted by Ian

It’s clear to me from these numbers, this virus was clearly created in a lab by the GOP to reduce the voting population in these states so they become battleground states.

:boom:
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maybe a sinister plot by lunatic progressives????


As U.S. Nursing-Home Deaths Reach 50,000, States Ease Lockdowns
Facilities weigh coronavirus risk of allowing visitors against ills caused by prolonged isolation


"Ezekiel Emanuel(chief architect of obamacare) questions “whether our consumption is worth our contribution” in old age."

[Pete F.]

If you take the time or expend the effort to look into what the Minneapolis City council’s issues are with the police department you will discover that they want local control and can only achieve that by dissolving the current organization per the city charter.
Camden, NJ did it 8 years ago, things improved
But just let the reich wing scare you, Tweety will save you
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[wdmso]

As spending on the police increased, federal aid to cities shrank for antipoverty programs and social services.


https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...t-growing.html


When people say defund that is just some people , its not policy or supported by the public at large .. but people are seeing the dollars spent and not happy with the return , and whole heartedly want police to be better ..

One guy on Foxs the 5 angry guy in a t shirt said only blacks should deal with blacks and the same whites .. the went into some the chances are 1 in how many he called it an error rate .. ,, he cover his ass by saying it was a dumb idea ... but hes another one who will swear up and down there is no racism in policing